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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Scotty on December 18, 2011, 09:20:26 pm
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Linky. (http://news.yahoo.com/north-korea-says-leader-kim-jong-il-died-030534452.html)
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korean television announces in a "special broadcast" that its leader Kim Jong Il has died in Pyongyang. He was 69.
That's actually the whole article as of right this minute, but it's big news regardless. How likely is NK to elect/appoint another bat**** insane dictator, or instead find someone slightly more... not bat**** insane?
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This could get...interesting.
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So very... lonely...
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are you all still gonna tell me it's not ok to celebrate the death of someone?
though actually I am going to miss his Dr. Doom supervillian routine.
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I'm not sure which of the two I find more disturbing.
#1. The fact that I just looked up the Kim Jong / Team America song because of this (here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_560828&feature=iv&src_vid=6z8iKVayOKk&v=-hkAfd2vBOI))
#2. EVERYONE ELSE DID, TOO
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god damn it, now im going to have to re-write my plans for nuclear war
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are you all still gonna tell me it's not ok to celibate the death of someone?
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Either that, or you're one disturbed corpse******.
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oh, I missed an 'r' there, didn't I
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It'll be interesting to see if a new leader will be able to actually change things in NK, however, the way people are treated in NK and how things go there, it'll be much more likely to find some super-disciplined ice cold general-type being appointed, with the usual torture and domination flavors.
We'll see what comes of it.
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The new leader is very likely Kim Jong-un.
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Slightly unrelated... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38YWB8iX7OY
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Kim Jong Un announced as new leader.
Business as usual, apparently.
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As the Who said in their song won't get fooled again "meet the new boss- same as the old boss"
It's kinda odd that this relic of the cold war gets headlines in the news, the new guy in charge will still concentrate on developing the bomb at the expense of his people who are uneducated and malnourished!! He's the king in the glorious peoples republic of Korea, but to the rest of the world their just a throwback of another time..... does this mean another Team America movie???
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As the Who said in their song won't get fooled again "meet the new boss- same as the old boss"
This gets much less funny if you've seen pictures of the man. They're painfully similar in looks.
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Now the question is will his son be able to rule the country with the support of the army or will they think he is weak!!? could there be a coup or power vacuum if he is as untested as the media say he is, if so there could potentially be trouble ahead!!
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I hear rumors that he really really wants to attack SK.
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Shortest presidency evar.....!
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You almost kind of want them to attak - almost. The South Koreans (with international backing) would roll them inside a week, and with the "Glorious leader" dead, and the new one yet to cement his cult of personality, there's probably never been a better time to break the brainwashing of the masses up there.
If it weren't for the artillery that's supposed to be pointed at Seoul, that is.
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While I'm sure all the "good guys" could band together and stomp NK in the long run, wouldn't it be a rather drawn out and messy affair? As I understand it, they're pretty damn well entrenched up there. The whole country is practically a fortress.
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yeah
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If it comes to an all out war with every kind of missile imaginable flying over the border... South Korea would probably still win, but it would be a Pyrrhic victory.
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The Glorious Leader has Ascended to the Celestial Plane.
Funny enough I've heard it theorized that a conventional offense by the DPRK would likely stall out at the first supermarket.
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While I'm sure all the "good guys" could band together and stomp NK in the long run, wouldn't it be a rather drawn out and messy affair? As I understand it, they're pretty damn well entrenched up there. The whole country is practically a fortress.
The problem isn't really one of entrenchment in a conventional sense. The United States and South Korea have invested billions of dollars in being able to rain death upon entrenched enemies, and it is a truism in war that anything you can see is simply a casualty, no matter how well-protected. The US has been long been one of the world's foremost practitioners of the art of breaking fixed defensive lines with effective use of artillery and airpower.
The North has staked their entire military on being able to get off one good launch at Seoul. There are simply too many targets and no way to kill them all before a majority have gotten off a round. And at that point South Korea's most heavily populated areas are blasted, poisonous, infectious, and now possibly radioactive wastelands.
The war after this would be brief, and North Korea's army would lose it badly. But it would also already be too late.
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if the north attacks the south then blizzard might cancel the starcraft 2 expansion packs!
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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We placing bets on how long before the first attempt at a coup by one of Jong-un's brothers or the military (or both)? We can start a date pool.
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>>Insert (probably already mentioned) Team america "RONERY" joke<<
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You're 21 posts too late. :P
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Defo think its not in the Norths interests to blast Seoul with their arty, these 10-a-penny despots huff and puff but when its time to step up to the plate....Zip!! they lose their powerbase and all his dads western movie collection lol, well what power that they like to think they've got!..
Saddam, Mugabe, Ahmedinejad and now this kid, all the same
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The first thing that came into my mind was this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2njxaDLMxY
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Defo think its not in the Norths interests to blast Seoul with their arty, these 10-a-penny despots huff and puff but when its time to step up to the plate....Zip!! they lose their powerbase and all his dads western movie collection lol, well what power that they like to think they've got!..
Saddam, Mugabe, Ahmedinejad and now this kid, all the same
The problem is, NK is a sort of marxist take on a theocracy, and has been for over a generation. There is quite literally no failure mode for that sort of thing that doesn't result in a LOT of suffering. The only question is whether NK manages to make everyone around them suffer as well when it collapses, I would not want to imagine the immense amount of future shock, or even reality shock the north korean population is in for once contact with the outside world is reestablished.
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It'll be like Fallout 2.... And we're the Frakking Enclave! :cool:
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Nighttime shots of the DPRK pretty much says it all:
(http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/dprk/images/dprk-dmsp-dark.jpg)
It's actually pretty sad, its population has essentially been brainwashed since the Korean War. There was a 60 minutes story a few years ago that the DPRK had requested the use of the Diary of Ann Frank to be part of their school curriculum. The West ostensibly thought this was a beneficial change... It turned out they were teaching it in the context of "Don't end up like Ann Frank resist the fascist/capitalist/AmericanNazis."
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It's more than sad starslayer it's actually depressing, when you look at that image and you know just how poorly the people are kept and the twisted lies they get rammed down their throats, no connection to the outside world, poverty and starvation (1 million dead). I rant and rave with my mates about my government but at least i'm lucky living in dare i say it at the moment but a prosperous country unlike those poor souls.