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Title: HLP DNS registration
Post by: The E on December 27, 2011, 10:16:05 am
Given recent events with SOPA and GoDaddy, wouldn't it be a good idea to move to another registrar? Stories like this (http://david.weebly.com/1/post/2011/12/godaddy-a-glimpse-of-the-internet-under-sopa.html) do not make me comfortable.
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: mjn.mixael on December 27, 2011, 11:05:19 am
agreed. i'm in the process if moving my studio business from them too.
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: CommanderDJ on December 27, 2011, 07:23:22 pm
+1 for the move.
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: Goober5000 on December 28, 2011, 08:31:57 pm
+1 here too.  Apparently there are a number of websites which have switched registrars already.
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: Iss Mneur on December 28, 2011, 08:53:49 pm
 :yes:

Yeah, a number, apparently more than 21000 (http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/12/25/1452251/go-daddy-loses-over-21000-domains-in-one-day).

Who controls the hard-light.net domain anyway?  We may need to poke him.
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: rev_posix on December 28, 2011, 11:21:47 pm
According to the whois record at godaddy, I'm guessing it's the sammich man. :)
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: Goober5000 on December 29, 2011, 01:03:49 am
I poked him when I made my post.  He may require additional poking.
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: Black Wolf on December 29, 2011, 02:12:55 am
Any chance we can get it in time to make the Dec 29th boycott date?

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/12/godaddy-faces-december-29-boycott-over-sopa-support.ars
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: G0atmaster on December 29, 2011, 03:15:04 am
LOL. I loved the end of that article. Apparently, lost profits are more important to GoDaddy than the "principles" upon which they stood in support of this BS legislation.
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: Iss Mneur on December 29, 2011, 09:23:17 am
Any chance we can get it in time to make the Dec 29th boycott date?

Probably not. hard-light.net (http://www.whois.net/whois/hard-light.net) is still locked which means it will probably take a bit to get it transferred (especially with GoDaddy's past behaviour on the transferring out of domains).
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: Sandwich on December 30, 2011, 06:53:01 pm
Derp.

Any suggestions on where to move to?
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: niffiwan on December 30, 2011, 09:35:58 pm
Although I've not used them personally, I've heard good things about these guys (http://register4less.com)  (although they're obviously not the absolute cheapest you could find).
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: Iss Mneur on December 30, 2011, 11:38:52 pm
I use http://baremetal.com/ and I haven't had any problems with them.  Even though they are a Canadian (Vancouver Based) registrar they can do billing in USD for people out side of Canada.

They are also not the cheapest, though they seem to be cheaper than the one that niffiwan posted.
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: G0atmaster on December 31, 2011, 02:23:44 am
Can we also make known the IP address in case HLP gets SOPA'd?
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: Sandwich on December 31, 2011, 08:55:20 am
FYI, GoDaddy did recant from their previous pro-SOPA stance.

And I'm getting old - I have a Dreamhost VPS that I can add the HLP domain to. Just not quite sure how to go about it.
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: G0atmaster on December 31, 2011, 01:45:46 pm
On the record, they did. But they are still written into the bill as exempt, and most likely still support for it behind the scenes.
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: Iss Mneur on December 31, 2011, 02:05:51 pm
FYI, GoDaddy did recant from their previous pro-SOPA stance.
So it seems they have finally done it officially, but either way godaddy is an underhanded registrar where they own the domain, take down domains whenever someone asks, and play tricks on people registering a domain.

And I'm getting old - I have a Dreamhost VPS that I can add the HLP domain to. Just not quite sure how to go about it.
It has nothing to do with VPS or hosting, you just need to transfer the domain (and pay for another year of registration).
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: rev_posix on December 31, 2011, 05:05:16 pm
FYI, GoDaddy did recant from their previous pro-SOPA stance.
So it seems they have finally done it officially, but either way godaddy is an underhanded registrar where they own the domain, take down domains whenever someone asks, and play tricks on people registering a domain.

And I'm getting old - I have a Dreamhost VPS that I can add the HLP domain to. Just not quite sure how to go about it.
It has nothing to do with VPS or hosting, you just need to transfer the domain (and pay for another year of registration).
Eh?

Transferring the domain, if I'm understanding sandwich correctly, has nothing to do with adding/moving HLP to it, it's a matter of telling the current registar to point the DNS entries for the domain to the new IP's...  well, after the VPS has the HLP stuff copied over to it and is configured to deal with the potentially new filesystem layout.
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: Iss Mneur on December 31, 2011, 05:28:25 pm
Eh?

Transferring the domain, if I'm understanding sandwich correctly, has nothing to do with adding/moving HLP to it, it's a matter of telling the current registar to point the DNS entries for the domain to the new IP's...  well, after the VPS has the HLP stuff copied over to it and is configured to deal with the potentially new filesystem layout.
Huh?

I was only talking about the domain, hard-light.net which has GoDaddy.com as a registrar, this needs what we want to transfer. Is the physical server that HLP is hosted on also a GoDaddy server?
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: niffiwan on December 31, 2011, 05:55:28 pm
Sandwich - are you talking about this? http://dreamhost.com/domains/

i.e. you already have a VPS and are entitled to have a free domain with it?  If so, I think you just click on the "transfer domain" link.  In my experience, you also need the domain "PIN" or "registry key" in order to prove that you have the right to transfer the domain, you should be able to find this in the GoDaddy administration page for the domain... actually, this basic procedure is true regardless of which registrar you move the domain to.

Transferring the domain, if I'm understanding sandwich correctly, has nothing to do with adding/moving HLP to it, it's a matter of telling the current registar to point the DNS entries for the domain to the new IP's...  well, after the VPS has the HLP stuff copied over to it and is configured to deal with the potentially new filesystem layout.

I think you're talking here about keeping GoDaddy as the registrar and hosting the DNS zones on the VPS?  (please tell me if I'm wrong!)  I didn't think this is what we were talking about doing - i.e. stop GoDaddy being our registrar because we don't trust them ;)

Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: rev_posix on December 31, 2011, 06:46:34 pm
Transferring the domain, if I'm understanding sandwich correctly, has nothing to do with adding/moving HLP to it, it's a matter of telling the current registar to point the DNS entries for the domain to the new IP's...  well, after the VPS has the HLP stuff copied over to it and is configured to deal with the potentially new filesystem layout.

I think you're talking here about keeping GoDaddy as the registrar and hosting the DNS zones on the VPS?  (please tell me if I'm wrong!)  I didn't think this is what we were talking about doing - i.e. stop GoDaddy being our registrar because we don't trust them ;)


Oh, I understand that part just fine (I'm looking at moving mine from them as well), I was just commenting that it sounded like there was the impression that moving a site to another host required transferring the domain to another registrar, which it doesn't.:)
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: Sandwich on January 10, 2012, 09:01:10 am
Well the thing is we're also using CloudFare (CloudFire? CloudF-somethign) for our DNS, so I'm just not quite sure how to prepare the DH side of things. :) I'll take it up with He Who Set Up CloudFare/Fire/F-something. :p

...err, Rev, was that you I gave access to the GoDaddy account? :nervous: #badmemoryat33isbad
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: rev_posix on January 10, 2012, 02:13:55 pm
Well the thing is we're also using CloudFare (CloudFire? CloudF-somethign) for our DNS, so I'm just not quite sure how to prepare the DH side of things. :) I'll take it up with He Who Set Up CloudFare/Fire/F-something. :p
As of late, I think it's cloud-f'in-are more than anything, but meh. :P

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...err, Rev, was that you I gave access to the GoDaddy account? :nervous: #badmemoryat33isbad
Nope, was not I.  But to get rid of it should only be a matter of changing the DNS entries at the registar level, be that godaddy or whoever.  Mail, I don't know what was changed for that at the moment.
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: Zacam on January 10, 2012, 08:46:41 pm
It was me, Sandwich.

And rev_posix is right, our pointing to CloudFlare occurs because GoDaddy currently points the DNS data to CloudFlare.

If we changed Registrars, I'd rather it point to either the Registrars DNS or OpenDNS, since as it stands, CloudFlare is going to get turned off soon anyway.

I haven't done it yet, because I don't want us to have double-down time in turning off CloudFlare, and then again if/when we change registrars. If we don't change, then great, I can just point it back and turn CloudFlare off. If we do change, then that will handle it for us anyway.
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: Sandwich on January 10, 2012, 09:01:29 pm
Ok, well you have a much better handle on this than I do. I've got no problem with transferring the domain to my Dreamhost account; just tell me what NS/MX records I need to have in place beforehand. :)
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: Zacam on January 10, 2012, 09:31:09 pm
MX Records would be whatever the Google mail setup defines as needed for Google.com and Googlemail.com.

NS for OpenDNS would be: 208.67.222.222 & 208.67.220.220 I believe. Easily Google-able.
Title: Re: HLP DNS registration
Post by: niffiwan on January 10, 2012, 09:36:49 pm
Here's the current MX records for hard-light.net, you should be able to just duplicate these?

Code: [Select]
$ host -t MX hard-light.net
hard-light.net mail is handled by 1 aspmx.l.google.com.
hard-light.net mail is handled by 5 alt1.aspmx.l.google.com.
hard-light.net mail is handled by 5 alt2.aspmx.l.google.com.
hard-light.net mail is handled by 10 aspmx2.googlemail.com.
hard-light.net mail is handled by 10 aspmx3.googlemail.com.