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Title: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: Sarafan on February 29, 2012, 03:01:39 pm
Its been a while since I've posted anything. This is latest ship I've done, I've always wanted to do a GTVA cruiser but I havent come up with a name for it yet, any comments are welcome.

(http://s18.postimage.org/b54rijwft/Frigate_001.jpg)

(http://s18.postimage.org/hlibmdud5/Frigate_002.jpg)

(http://s9.postimage.org/mozt1487z/Frigate_003.jpg)

(http://s17.postimage.org/a9a2l260f/Frigate_004.jpg)

Flak turret:

(http://s13.postimage.org/emgvs7vlz/Frigate_005.jpg)

(http://s14.postimage.org/6uu8hbzrl/Frigate_006.jpg)

Main turret, a laser/beam turret:

(http://s10.postimage.org/kk3ww52nd/Frigate_007.jpg)
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: Rodo on February 29, 2012, 03:20:36 pm
Looks awesome, very homeworld'ish, just how I like it :yes:
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: MatthTheGeek on February 29, 2012, 03:51:03 pm
Yup, it did scream "Taiidan" to me before I even read Rodo's comment. The turrets are very cool too. Is it missile launchers I see on the rear top sides ? I can't see any beam turret, but it's not like if GTVA cruiser beams were of any other use than lighting show.

Anyway, very cool. Keep it up !
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: Dragon on February 29, 2012, 04:00:50 pm
Looks pretty good, keep it up.  :yes:
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: Sarafan on February 29, 2012, 04:36:02 pm
Yup, it did scream "Taiidan" to me before I even read Rodo's comment. The turrets are very cool too. Is it missile launchers I see on the rear top sides ? I can't see any beam turret, but it's not like if GTVA cruiser beams were of any other use than lighting show.

Anyway, very cool. Keep it up !

Thanks, yeah, I have taiidani tendency and those are missile launchers. The main turret (the one in the last picture) would actually be a combined laser and beam turret, the upper gun would be a laser cannon with the lower, bigger gun being the beam cannon.
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: headdie on February 29, 2012, 05:11:43 pm
I like the nod to the iceni in the engine shape
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: MatthTheGeek on February 29, 2012, 05:21:57 pm
Ooooh, turrets with combined armaments. We don't see many of those, but afaik perfectly doable in FSO.
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: Dragon on February 29, 2012, 05:34:48 pm
While doable, they're difficult to get right, and their targeting might not be optimal.
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: Trivial Psychic on February 29, 2012, 07:23:45 pm
I feel that that sharp nose isn't exactly GTVA style.
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: MatthTheGeek on February 29, 2012, 07:26:04 pm
GTVA style is rather diverse. Can you see many similarities between a Fenris and a Hecate (aside from being excellent target practice) ?

It could just be a brand new military contractor trying himself into the cruiser market.
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: Trivial Psychic on February 29, 2012, 07:29:49 pm
Poor comparison, as the Fenris dates back to the FS1 era, and the Hecate is modern (if of limited effectiveness as a warship).  The point, is that none of the Terran ships in FS feature such prominent sharp angles.
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: MatthTheGeek on February 29, 2012, 07:33:01 pm
And my point is, I don't see any valid reason why this ship couldn't be a GTVA ship and have such prominent sharp edges.

We also don't know what era that ship is supposed to exist. Could perfectly be a Post-Capella design. So the Fenris/Hecate comparison is perfectly valid.
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: Trivial Psychic on February 29, 2012, 07:36:59 pm
We are each entitled to our opinions.

With such a sharp nose, might this perhaps be called the Cutter class?  :lol:
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: Rampage on February 29, 2012, 10:27:34 pm
Could be used for the Inferno faction that uses HW-based design for its warships.

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Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: Fury on February 29, 2012, 11:33:26 pm
Ooooh, turrets with combined armaments. We don't see many of those, but afaik perfectly doable in FSO.
It is possible for any one turret to have three primaries and four secondaries, but at the same time any one turret can only operate with one target priority. For example, you cannot mix weapons with flags such as huge, bomber+, capital+ or small only. Or use weapons that have different targeting priorities set in objecttypes.tbl/tbm. And since turret can only target using one weapon in one fire point, the other weapons are likely going to miss if their velocity is different.

There is very little sense in mixing multiple different weapons in same turret, it's not going to work very well.
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: TrashMan on March 02, 2012, 01:45:28 am
Ooooh, turrets with combined armaments. We don't see many of those, but afaik perfectly doable in FSO.
It is possible for any one turret to have three primaries and four secondaries, but at the same time any one turret can only operate with one target priority. For example, you cannot mix weapons with flags such as huge, bomber+, capital+ or small only. Or use weapons that have different targeting priorities set in objecttypes.tbl/tbm. And since turret can only target using one weapon in one fire point, the other weapons are likely going to miss if their velocity is different.

There is very little sense in mixing multiple different weapons in same turret, it's not going to work very well.

Anti-cap guns and homing anti-cap missiles.
Or anti-fighter guns and anti-fighter missiles.
that should work.
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: MatthTheGeek on March 02, 2012, 05:31:13 am
Yup. If the turret can properly aim with only one weapon, make the other weapons be homing missiles. Tracking problem solved.
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: Colonol Dekker on March 02, 2012, 06:22:18 am
/me makes supportive, morale boosting comment.
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: MatthTheGeek on March 02, 2012, 06:39:17 am
That's a refreshing change from your usual horny comments.
Title: Re: Unnamed GTVA cruiser
Post by: qwadtep on March 04, 2012, 12:22:18 am
The flak turrets on the sides feel too bulky for the tapered look, I think.

It isn't standard GTVA design, but the overall shape screams hunter-killer to me. Maybe have the turrets fire TAGs for heavier weapons towards the stern.

I could also see it in something like WoD, what with the missile-array-looking things on the sides.