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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: JCDNWarrior on March 08, 2012, 05:35:52 am

Title: Panetta: "international permission," rather than Congressional approval for war
Post by: JCDNWarrior on March 08, 2012, 05:35:52 am
See source below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zNwOeyuG84&feature=player_embedded

What's the thoughts on this, is this normal, did he just say the wrong words or could it be considered (high) treason for not following the Constitution, breaking his oath?
Title: Re: Panetta: "international permission," rather than Congressional approval for war
Post by: Bobboau on March 08, 2012, 07:07:26 am
he's just calling it like he sees it, that is how we operate in fact.
Title: Re: Panetta: "international permission," rather than Congressional approval for war
Post by: Aardwolf on March 08, 2012, 09:46:45 pm
What's the thoughts on this, is this normal, did he just say the wrong words or could it be considered (high) treason for not following the Constitution, breaking his oath?

But it's only treason if we're at war!

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Title: Re: Panetta: "international permission," rather than Congressional approval for war
Post by: Polpolion on March 08, 2012, 10:22:07 pm
AFAIK there are plenty of ways the president can get around congress to deploy troops to action overseas, but it's been a while since US gov so I forget them all, so whatever.
Title: Re: Panetta: "international permission," rather than Congressional approval for war
Post by: BlueFlames on March 08, 2012, 10:56:38 pm
AFAIK there are plenty of ways the president can get around congress to deploy troops to action overseas, but it's been a while since US gov so I forget them all, so whatever.

The War Powers Act of 1973 is the primary means by which the President may deploy troops abroad, without Congressional approval.  Essentially, the President may deploy troops for up to sixty days, with the only requirement being that he notify Congress within two days of the deployment.  There is a further thirty day permitted to withdraw the deployed force, though that's more often used as thirty days to finish arm-wrestling Congress into approving a longer deployment.  The constitutionality of the act is questionable in many ways, but it is standing law.  There's then further technicalities that can be argued about the Navy operating in international waters to launch aircraft and ordinance into a warzone or the Air Force launching long-range missions from bases well outside any warzone.