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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: FlamingCobra on March 31, 2012, 12:17:23 pm

Title: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: FlamingCobra on March 31, 2012, 12:17:23 pm
Where does the program "Windows Live Mail" store passwords? I know it must save passwords as a file somewhere.

EDIT: www.top-password.com/password-recovery-bundle.html
is this safe?
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: BloodEagle on March 31, 2012, 12:44:05 pm
 :banghead:
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: General Battuta on March 31, 2012, 12:47:03 pm
Give me your HLP password and I'll SSH into your computer and retrieve it for you, it's too complicated to explain
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: FlamingCobra on March 31, 2012, 12:49:12 pm
Look, I'm doing some computer work for my uncle. He can access emails from one computer but we don't know what the password is so we can't access it from another computer.
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: Jeff Vader on March 31, 2012, 12:54:00 pm
lol

Edit: what I meant to say was that there is a "Forgot your password?" function on the Live website.
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: FlamingCobra on March 31, 2012, 01:00:02 pm
no. he has an email account with a local company but they aren't open on weekends.
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: Jeff Vader on March 31, 2012, 01:04:06 pm
Oh. Well, if we operate under the assumption that the password is stored in a file, it is most likely encrypted and I, for one, would not trust just any "password retrieval software" found on the internets.
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: Polpolion on March 31, 2012, 01:06:29 pm
possible solutions:
1) wait until not the weekend, call tech support, do email stuff
2) use computer that has his login info saved, do email stuff
3) use 1337 h4x0r skillz to break into whatever stores the passwords and retrieve the info, do email stuff (this one is definitely the easiest and most straightforward of the three)
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: FlamingCobra on March 31, 2012, 01:08:30 pm
My only problem is that the local company is a complete douchebag and won't tell you anything so you can do stuff yourself, so you have to get them to "fix" everything, and they charge $100+ for everything they do.
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: Polpolion on March 31, 2012, 01:10:15 pm
if they charge you ANY MONEY for a password reset it's time to find a new company. period.
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: Grizzly on March 31, 2012, 02:14:52 pm
if they charge you ANY MONEY for a password reset it's time to find a new company. period.
This.
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: redsniper on March 31, 2012, 02:15:35 pm
Use easy to remember passwords.
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: deathfun on March 31, 2012, 02:17:26 pm
So what you're telling us is that your Uncle unwittingly started to use an email service provided by a company that will charge you up the ass with fees instead of choosing a free email account provided by your various internet providers such as gmail, hotmail and yahoo

I don't get it
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: Klaustrophobia on March 31, 2012, 02:23:55 pm
or maybe it's his ISP and he's using the email account that came with his internet access.
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: FlamingCobra on March 31, 2012, 02:37:18 pm
or maybe it's his ISP and he's using the email account that came with his internet access.
^
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: BloodEagle on March 31, 2012, 02:50:35 pm
or maybe it's his ISP and he's using the email account that came with his internet access.
^

In which case, they shouldn't be charging for simple customer service requests.
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: Nuke on March 31, 2012, 03:00:14 pm
i have often found that free email services like gmail are better than the one that typically comes with your isp. in terms of storage and features. also i like gmail for giving me spam recipes :D

Use easy to remember passwords.

https://xkcd.com/936/

thats assuming the service you are using lets you.
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: Dragon on March 31, 2012, 04:36:33 pm
Note, this is only good if the guessing process is entirely random. If, for instance, the brute forcing algorithm will try out common words and their random combinations, then the guessing time might decrease.
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: Polpolion on March 31, 2012, 04:50:23 pm
That assumes someone is seriously trying to break into your account. For your typical user's typical account, a password that can withstand a few random guesses typed in manually is good enough; beyond that it's overkill. But if your account is DEADLY SRS SECRT stuff then yes, pick a DEADLY SRS HARD2CRK password.
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: MP-Ryan on March 31, 2012, 04:58:54 pm
or maybe it's his ISP and he's using the email account that came with his internet access.
^

In which case, they shouldn't be charging for simple customer service requests.

QFT.  Also, 10:1 there is an automated password reset on their website that our crispy reptilian friend here hasn't found.

Lesson 1:  If using ISPs email service, don't have a ****ty ISP.
Lesson 2:  GMail is free.
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: Bobboau on March 31, 2012, 05:01:16 pm
That assumes someone is seriously trying to break into your account. For your typical user's typical account, a password that can withstand a few random guesses typed in manually is good enough; beyond that it's overkill. But if your account is DEADLY SRS SECRT stuff then yes, pick a DEADLY SRS HARD2CRK password.

and don't give it to British tabloids.
Title: Re: Email/Password Stuff
Post by: Dragon on March 31, 2012, 05:02:28 pm
For things you don't really care about, just about any password with some simple number at the end will do. As long as it's not painfully obvious, it isn't easy to guess a random three digit number.
QFT.  Also, 10:1 there is an automated password reset on their website that our crispy reptilian friend here hasn't found.

Lesson 1:  If using ISPs email service, don't have a ****ty ISP.
Lesson 2:  GMail is free.
He said it's something his-uncle's-work-related, so this might be the problem. This account might belong to the company (it does raise other a couple of questions, but whatever).