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Title: Noticed this?
Post by: TrashMan on April 18, 2012, 04:59:10 am
That pretty much any large universe or game has fallen prey to the more...strage minorities..so to speak.

Ever noticed the influx of loli or furry races/characters?

Star Trek? Check.
Star Wars? Check.
DC? Check.
Marvel? Check.

etc, etc...
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: The E on April 18, 2012, 05:29:07 am
Attempting to give a damn.....


....


Attempt unsuccessful. Aborting.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: NGTM-1R on April 18, 2012, 06:00:20 am
Your speciesist attitudes are irrelevant.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Titan on April 18, 2012, 06:46:48 am
I have absolutely no problem with this.  :P
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Flipside on April 18, 2012, 07:28:20 am
Cousin It, the ultimate Furry ;)
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Herra Tohtori on April 18, 2012, 09:40:12 am
You humans are all racist!
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Scotty on April 18, 2012, 09:59:41 am
That pretty much any large universe or game has fallen prey to the more...strage minorities..so to speak.

Ever noticed the influx of loli or furry races/characters?

Star Trek? Check.
Star Wars? Check.
DC? Check.
Marvel? Check.

etc, etc...

Ever notice that pretty much any large continent has fallen prey to the same.

North America?  Check.
South America?  Check.
Europe?  Check.
Africa?  Check.

etc, etc...

****ing squirrels.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Snail on April 18, 2012, 10:47:14 am
no squirrels here
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Herra Tohtori on April 18, 2012, 10:48:28 am
Rabbits, then.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Spoon on April 18, 2012, 11:32:38 am
Does startrek online has characters like these (http://youtu.be/zWXrCzE9vt0?hd=1) yet? If not, I still can't give a damn!
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: TrashMan on April 18, 2012, 11:51:58 am
^ No, thak god.

I can stand cute kiddie characters (up to  point)...but sexualized?
Sexualizied kiddies are wrong, immagined or not.

 
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Legate Damar on April 18, 2012, 12:08:55 pm
You humans are all racist!

Yes, but not as much as Bajorans.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Spoon on April 18, 2012, 12:19:07 pm
"Ew, little girls are GROSS"
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Legate Damar on April 18, 2012, 12:21:47 pm
"Ew, little girls are GROSS"

Little Bajoran girls, at least. Always spitting on our friendly and well-meaning occupation forces and calling them names... :nono:
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Scourge of Ages on April 18, 2012, 12:31:17 pm
I know the Star Trek one, because I play it, but I didn't get the other references, Trashman. Have sources/images?

(Fun fact: You can purchase Caitian officer requisition forms and even officers on the exchange for EC instead of spending points)
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: TrashMan on April 18, 2012, 01:03:50 pm
No, I haven't bothered hunting with images. But you can find them if you look. After all, the bigger a franchinse/universe gets, and the more people work on it, the bigger the chances people with ideas and tastes that you don't like or that clash with the setting will come.

How many writers are there for the SW EU? Yeah, a veritable flood of bad stuff is bound to happen without a strong leading hand that will enforce a specific vision. Too many cooks spoil the meal, as the old saying goes.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: LordMelvin on April 18, 2012, 02:59:54 pm
No, I haven't bothered hunting with images. But you can find them if you look. After all, the bigger a franchinse/universe gets, and the more people work on it, the bigger the chances people with ideas and tastes that you don't like or that clash with the setting will come.

How many writers are there for the SW EU? Yeah, a veritable flood of bad stuff is bound to happen without a strong leading hand that will enforce a specific vision. Too many cooks spoil the meal, as the old saying goes.

You realize that the only reason the rebels at the end of the SW IV were human was because George had to pull back from his original idea to make them all Wookies, right? That furry critters like Chewie were basically the point of Star Wars, and the 'noble savage' archetype story that he wanted to tell, which he eventually did tell in ROTJ with the Ewoks, and again with the Gunguns in Ep 1... It's not a question of the EU adding stuff in, cute fuzzy aliens were the freaking point. (Source: Star Wars Trilogy Annotated Screenplays, L. Bouzereau)
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: TrashMan on April 18, 2012, 04:09:40 pm
Yeah..and gungans and Ewoks are well loved...especially Jar-Jar... Best character ever, right?

Actually, I wouldn't mind wookies. But why would ALL the rebels be wookies are beyond me. It's not like the empire isn't enslaving everyone else too. Suffice to say, Lucas has had plenty of bad ideas...the prequls can attest to that...
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Mongoose on April 18, 2012, 09:29:30 pm
man the Ewoks are awesome I don't care what anyone says :(
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: NGTM-1R on April 18, 2012, 09:42:46 pm
Anyone who is pro-fluffy bear things probably feels like a corporate tool.

Anyone who is anti-fluffy bear things probably is a tool.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: LordMelvin on April 18, 2012, 09:47:54 pm
Actually, I wouldn't mind wookies. But why would ALL the rebels be wookies are beyond me. It's not like the empire isn't enslaving everyone else too. Suffice to say, Lucas has had plenty of bad ideas...the prequls can attest to that...
No, there wouldn't be rebels. The Rebel command staff all were on Alderaan, and Leia doesn't know how to contact any other cells, so Han, Luke, Leia, Chewie, Obi-Wan (he didn't die in the early drafts) and the droids fly off to the wookie homeworld, teach the wookies to fly fighters, and go off to destroy the death star.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Thaeris on April 18, 2012, 11:23:00 pm
Thank God we got A New Hope... and not the prequil of A New Hope...

Maybe any of the prequils George wrote just never got to the second draft phase? :p

(On the downside, I smell another retcon coming...)
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: TrashMan on April 19, 2012, 01:37:03 am
No, there wouldn't be rebels. The Rebel command staff all were on Alderaan, and Leia doesn't know how to contact any other cells, so Han, Luke, Leia, Chewie, Obi-Wan (he didn't die in the early drafts) and the droids fly off to the wookie homeworld, teach the wookies to fly fighters, and go off to destroy the death star.

OH my..... thank God someone beat that stupid idea out of Lucas.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Titan on April 19, 2012, 09:50:59 am
No, there wouldn't be rebels. The Rebel command staff all were on Alderaan, and Leia doesn't know how to contact any other cells, so Han, Luke, Leia, Chewie, Obi-Wan (he didn't die in the early drafts) and the droids fly off to the wookie homeworld, teach the wookies to fly fighters, and go off to destroy the death star.

OH my..... thank God someone beat that stupid idea out of Lucas.

I remember reading some descriptions of the early drafts way back, and they never sounded that bad. My understanding was that they would enlist in help of the wookies to destroy the Death Star because they were, as stated, 'a nobel warrior race'. Then again, in the original drafts Han Solo was going to be a 7 ft tall frog thing instead of Harrison Ford.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: General Battuta on April 19, 2012, 11:30:29 am
Journal of the Whills fo lyfe
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Liberator on April 25, 2012, 10:37:49 pm
/me is confused as to the cute fuzzy in STO.

If you are referring to the caitians they may be fuzzy, but they're also quite vicious when provoked.  Do not call them cute.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: FireSpawn on April 26, 2012, 04:26:23 pm
/me is confused as to the cute fuzzy in STO.

If you are referring to the caitians they may be fuzzy, but they're also quite vicious when provoked.  Do not call them cute.

They looks like someone took all the 'Kil' out of the Kilrathi.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: General Battuta on April 26, 2012, 04:29:38 pm
/me is confused as to the cute fuzzy in STO.

If you are referring to the caitians they may be fuzzy, but they're also quite vicious when provoked.  Do not call them cute.

They looks like someone took all the 'Kil' out of the Kilrathi.

Kilrathi look like somebody couldn't figure out how to spell Kzinti :smug:
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: FireSpawn on April 26, 2012, 04:33:55 pm
/me is confused as to the cute fuzzy in STO.

If you are referring to the caitians they may be fuzzy, but they're also quite vicious when provoked.  Do not call them cute.

They looks like someone took all the 'Kil' out of the Kilrathi.

Kilrathi look like somebody couldn't figure out how to spell Kzinti :smug:

Wait...Was it me, or Wing Commander that just got schooled right there?  :confused:
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Commander Zane on April 26, 2012, 04:38:53 pm
Wait...Was it me, or Wing Commander that just got schooled right there?  :confused:
The Kzinti predate the Kilrathi by about 20 years.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Liberator on April 26, 2012, 05:01:01 pm
At least.

However, the Caitians are what you get when you drop the Kzinti into a world where the Preservers saw to it that 90ish percent of the sentient life in the galaxy is humanoid.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: General Battuta on April 26, 2012, 05:05:37 pm
I love Wing Commander though, don't get me wrong!
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: LHN91 on April 26, 2012, 05:24:32 pm
I love Wing Commander though, don't get me wrong!

But Larry Niven is pretty damned excellent.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: MarkN on April 28, 2012, 03:18:13 pm
At least.

However, the Caitians are what you get when you drop the Kzinti into a world where the Preservers saw to it that 90ish percent of the sentient life in the galaxy is humanoid.
However, Thanks to Larry Niven being on the writing team for the animated series, the Kzinti are technically a canon Star Trek race
Of coure then there are doubts about the canon-ness of the animated series.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: NGTM-1R on April 28, 2012, 03:24:19 pm
Of coure then there are doubts about the canon-ness of the animated series.

Only because they don't want to admit they hired a colorist for it who was colorblind.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Ravenholme on April 28, 2012, 06:20:28 pm
/me is confused as to the cute fuzzy in STO.

If you are referring to the caitians they may be fuzzy, but they're also quite vicious when provoked.  Do not call them cute.

They looks like someone took all the 'Kil' out of the Kilrathi.

Kilrathi look like somebody couldn't figure out how to spell Kzinti :smug:

Yusss, I enjoy WC, but that's so true.
Title: Re: Noticed this?
Post by: Liberator on April 30, 2012, 04:47:03 pm
Of coure then there are doubts about the canon-ness of the animated series.

Only because they don't want to admit they hired a colorist for it who was colorblind Filmation.

Nothing against Hal Sutherland, but even when I was a kid, I considered Filmation's show to be poor quality and lazy.  It was not a good fit for Star Trek.  That said, the writing was generally pretty good, although the lack of guest VAs led to James Doohan working a bit too far out of his vocal range at times.