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Title: Is it just me...
Post by: beatspete on June 06, 2002, 04:42:07 pm
Is it just me, or does the Erinyes only have 6 guns as apposed to the 8 advertised in it ship selection specs. :confused:
One of the banks clearly fires 4, but i think the second only fires 2, i cant see four and it doesnt seem to do double normal damage.
And if it doesnt, then it kind of reduces the greatness of Erinyes, since it has rubbish weapons energy stores too.

pete
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: saturn114 on June 06, 2002, 05:46:29 pm
i dunno man there  usded to be a bug believe  it or not
that a myridon light space superity fighter
have the ability to carry helios and  cylcops warheads
and not only that but you carry 4 or  five othem
awesome?
anyone lese besides me remember that bug?
 what you think of it?
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Title: Is it just me...
Post by: vadar_1 on June 06, 2002, 06:48:51 pm
just go fix it yourself... adding gunpoints isn't very difficult with modelview32
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: Corhellion on June 06, 2002, 06:55:10 pm
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: There are 8 gunbanks, check Modelview if you don't believe me.

And the Myrm. can loads bombs? I GOT TRY THIS!!!! *runs to play FS2*
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: Shiva Archon on June 06, 2002, 10:12:36 pm
Yes, the Myrm can hold up to 4 helios bombs, 2 in the last bank and 1 in the top two.  No, it cannot carry cyclops bombs.  My guess is someone clicked on "Helios" instead of "Harpoon" when designing the fighter because its pretty odd that a space superiority fighter cant carry one of, if not the, best anti-fighter missiles.
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Post by: Lonestar on June 06, 2002, 11:46:17 pm
Definite bug.

As for 8 guns, it has 8 for sure. The sheer power of those guns compared to other ships should prove that.
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: Vortex on June 07, 2002, 03:05:23 am
The bottom four guns are tightly packed so that it looks only like two guns shooting when you starting firing. Don't worry though, it's four.
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: beatspete on June 07, 2002, 04:35:49 am
Origionally posted by Vortex
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The bottom four guns are tightly packed so that it looks only like two guns shooting when you starting firing


I thought that might be it...

Anyway, the Myrmadon can carry Helios, and what a ship it is when it does.  You can even take on corvetes.  If i have helios available, i'd rather take a pair of them than a few rockeyes with me.  If any cruisers show up they die.  Plus you dont many antifighter missles, since you have that lovely double bank to put a ship munching Kayser (or Prom. S for longer range).
I love my Myrm

pete
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: Kellan on June 07, 2002, 08:46:29 am
I love the fact that the Myrmidon can take a couple of Helios bombs. It basically turns it into a fighter dive-bomber. :D

It's actually an interesting tactical set-up - it can carry bombs, but not many - although, IMO, it should only be allowed to carry 1 or 2. That way it doesn't become so powerful that it replaces bombers, but can be used where they'd just die.
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: Nico on June 07, 2002, 08:57:36 am
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Originally posted by Shiva Archon
Yes, the Myrm can hold up to 4 helios bombs, 2 in the last bank and 1 in the top two.  No, it cannot carry cyclops bombs.  My guess is someone clicked on "Helios" instead of "Harpoon" when designing the fighter because its pretty odd that a space superiority fighter cant carry one of, if not the, best anti-fighter missiles.


nah, it's not a mistake, it's mentionned in the CB ani.
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: Alikchi on June 07, 2002, 10:54:00 am
Fighter-bombers rock :)
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: LtNarol on June 07, 2002, 11:56:58 am
Myrmidons are best used when strike bombers are needed...they dont do so well against larger vessels or those with lots of flak, but a wing of Myrmidons can take down a corvette and most destroyers in one pass (assuming they dont die before they get there).
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: CP5670 on June 07, 2002, 12:46:24 pm
This is kind of like the Tauret actually, which has six gunpoints although its techroom entry and selection screen statistics say it only has four. :p

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nah, it's not a mistake, it's mentionned in the CB ani.


Where is this? I couldn't find anything like this and cannot remember seeing it either. (and I must have looked over those command briefings so many times when drilling out my campaign's story that I have most of them memorized :p :D)

What makes me think that the Myrmidon thing is probably a mistake is that if can carry the Helios, there is no reason why it cannot carry the Cyclops as well; there are no other ships in the game that can only carry the larger bomb and not the smaller one, and it doesn't make sense in any case. :p
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: beatspete on June 07, 2002, 01:51:35 pm
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Originally posted by CP5670
What makes me think that the Myrmidon thing is probably a mistake is that if can carry the Helios, there is no reason why it cannot carry the Cyclops as well; there are no other ships in the game that can only carry the larger bomb and not the smaller one, and it doesn't make sense in any case. :p


Its probably the shape of the Helios that allows myrms to carry it, its quite thin at the back, unlike the Cyclops which is pretty much the same width all the way along it, which means it may not quite fit in the weapons pods.

pete
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Post by: Hippo on June 07, 2002, 02:03:53 pm
either FS1 or FS2 says that the lucifer has 3 superlasers...
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: aldo_14 on June 07, 2002, 03:09:54 pm
Helios.....we don't need no stinkin' Helios......

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/casualtiesofwar/screens/screen10.jpg)

;7
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: Fineus on June 07, 2002, 04:27:38 pm
:jaw: Torps. Rock.

And considering how kick-ass the bomber is I don't rate that Hatshepsuts chances ;)
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Post by: Alikchi on June 07, 2002, 05:50:47 pm
Gotta love that trail.
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Post by: IceFire on June 07, 2002, 06:19:31 pm
Nifty...very nifty :)
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: phreak on June 07, 2002, 06:55:08 pm
sweet!  what is the bomber?
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: beatspete on June 08, 2002, 05:19:42 am
Hmmm, my screens to crappy and dark to make anything other than the bombers...

*looks at it on other PC*
Oh yeah, not bad, but what are the bombers?
pete
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: aldo_14 on June 08, 2002, 09:28:30 am
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Originally posted by beatspete
Hmmm, my screens to crappy and dark to make anything other than the bombers...

*looks at it on other PC*
Oh yeah, not bad, but what are the bombers?
pete


GTB Phoebus

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/casualtiesofwar/screens/screen08.jpg)

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/casualtiesofwar/screens/screen07.jpg)

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/casualtiesofwar/screens/screen09.jpg)
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: Knight Templar on June 08, 2002, 01:47:17 pm
Wow, that bomber looks tiight, what campagn will it be in?
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Post by: an0n on June 08, 2002, 01:50:51 pm
The bomber and the torps (and the general look of the pics) look very Starlancer-ish.
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Post by: Razor on June 08, 2002, 02:11:45 pm
The bomber kinda reminds me of the GTB Medusa.

Anyway, nice :nod:
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Post by: TheVirtu on June 10, 2002, 11:07:47 am
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Originally posted by Razor
The bomber kinda reminds me of the GTB Medusa.

Anyway, nice :nod:


Yeah, it does look like the Medusa in the darker parts of the pics.
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: Liberator on June 10, 2002, 03:06:35 pm
Looks like Medusa MK2.:D

Where do I get it?:confused:
Title: Is it just me...
Post by: Kellan on June 10, 2002, 04:34:51 pm
Oh, my...

:jaw:

Now that is a bomber. :D