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Ridley Scott's xenomorph-free Alien prequel, focused on the space jockeys and some new and absolutely ****ing horrifying parasitic ****, hits in a bit over a month. The first trailer is one of the better ones I've ever seen. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sftuxbvGwiU)
Michael Fassbender plays a truly unnerving Weyland Corporation android, Charlize Theron is a hard-ass corporate exec named Vickers, Noomi Rapace plays a scientist named Shaw who seems to, uh, encounter something really squick-inducing. The latest trailer is a bit too spoilery and I'd suggest not watching it, but ****, this movie looks like it's going to really deliver on the body horror.
e: Additional props go to the excellent production design and atmospheric CGI.
And the astoundingly good viral marketing! Short, spoiler-free clips of great interest:
Peter Weyland gives a TED talk in the future (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxdAWrsag8)
An introduction to Weyland's ever-helpful, ever-creepy androids. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIzHh3uM8Ec)
An absolutely stellar acting showcase with Michael Fassbender as the android David (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWmbqH_z7jM)
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The latest trailer is a bit too spoilery and I'd suggest not watching it, but ****, this movie looks like it's going to really deliver on the body horror.
Yeah... I'm kinda worried that I already saw all the good bits in the trailer and the rest of the movie is gonna be boring filler.
Wouldn't be the first time... but yeah, I do so wanna see this right now. :)
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It does looks pretty badass
Anything to do with Alien always grabs my attention
As for the trailers being as they are... well that's kinda what trailers have been doing lately unfortunately
Whatever happened to The Shining style of trailers?
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That's cool battuta, but you could have picked a better title for this topic.
Not everyone is an athetist on hlp. (I figured you should know better, considering your posts about how the misusage of the word rape is offensive to some people)
But yeah, this looks like it could be worth watching.
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Fair's fair!
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Very good :yes:
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yeah, that's taking the lord's name in vain. which is on the same short list as murder.
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Intriguing. I hadn't heard of this before. I wonder if the title is more than a reference to the ship name - "Prometheus" is the name of Dr. Frankenstein's "monster" in the classic novel. Possibilities, possibilities...
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Intriguing. I hadn't heard of this before. I wonder if the title is more than a reference to the ship name - "Prometheus" is the name of Dr. Frankenstein's "monster" in the classic novel. Possibilities, possibilities...
The movie makes an explicit connection to the mythical Prometheus' attempt to steal fire from the gods, I believe. Weyland Corporation is probably trying to nab space jockey biotech.
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This looks fun.
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Intriguing. I hadn't heard of this before. I wonder if the title is more than a reference to the ship name - "Prometheus" is the name of Dr. Frankenstein's "monster" in the classic novel. Possibilities, possibilities...
The movie makes an explicit connection to the mythical Prometheus' attempt to steal fire from the gods, I believe. Weyland Corporation is probably trying to nab space jockey biotech.
Call me childish, but that sounded like some sort of innuendo.
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The movie makes an explicit connection to the mythical Prometheus' attempt to steal fire from the gods, I believe. Weyland Corporation is probably trying to nab space jockey biotech
As opposed to the 'space jockeys' who already have said biotech and not only use it to try and play god, but also actively deny the humans access to said biotech?
Probably nothing that a greedy corporation won't do in the alien's place.
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Intriguing. I hadn't heard of this before. I wonder if the title is more than a reference to the ship name - "Prometheus" is the name of Dr. Frankenstein's "monster" in the classic novel. Possibilities, possibilities...
The movie makes an explicit connection to the mythical Prometheus' attempt to steal fire from the gods, I believe. Weyland Corporation is probably trying to nab space jockey biotech.
Call me childish, but that sounded like some sort of innuendo.
You're childish :P
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Intriguing. I hadn't heard of this before. I wonder if the title is more than a reference to the ship name - "Prometheus" is the name of Dr. Frankenstein's "monster" in the classic novel. Possibilities, possibilities...
For the record, the creature created by the titular doctor in the Mary Shelley novel 'Frankenstein or The Modern Prometheus' was never named in the text, but was commonly referred to by the author as being named 'Adam,' after the character in Genesis. </derail>
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Intriguing. I hadn't heard of this before. I wonder if the title is more than a reference to the ship name - "Prometheus" is the name of Dr. Frankenstein's "monster" in the classic novel. Possibilities, possibilities...
For the record, the creature created by the titular doctor in the Mary Shelley novel 'Frankenstein or The Modern Prometheus' was never named in the text, but was commonly referred to by the author as being named 'Adam,' after the character in Genesis. </derail>
I have no recollection of the monster ever being reference by the good doctor as Adam, but it has admittedly been several years since I last read the book.
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There is the 'modern Prometheus' in the title, though.
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Right, but that's a reference to the Doctor, who is stealing the divine 'fire' to create life. And like I said, the creation is never given a name in the text.
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the lack of a name is actually an important plot point as it deprives the monster of identity and humanity.
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Oh my good Doctor Frankenstien you sorry sod. You create an superhuman being that ruins your life, murders your woman and friends, albeit due to your own negligence. Despite knowing the capabilities of your opponent instead of opting to train and extensively prepare yourself to exact proper revenge upon your foe you chase after him like a pathetic amateur and wind up turning into an Swisssicle.
Bad Form my dear chap, Bad Form. :nono:
Anywho: Peter Weyland on Prometheus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxdAWrsag8)
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Anywho: Peter Weyland on Prometheus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxdAWrsag8)
The viral marketing for this movie has been so good I think I'm going to add it to the OP.
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I love the mock TED talk.
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This movie looks totally badass, definitely going to see this whenever I get the chance.
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Hi... I'm new here.
One thing I loved about the original Prometheus trailer was that it barely gave you an idea of what to expect... but personally, the original Alien Trailer is still the best trailer ever made... the beautiful thing about it was that it was spoiler-free.
The TED Talk was good (interestingly enough, I did visit the real TED website), and the David 8 introduction was awesome. Twenty bucks says they start shipping the David series about seven to eleven years from now.
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Hi... I'm new here.
One thing I loved about the original Prometheus trailer was that it barely gave you an idea of what to expect... but personally, the original Alien Trailer is still the best trailer ever made... the beautiful thing about it was that it was spoiler-free.
The TED Talk was good (interestingly enough, I did visit the real TED website), and the David 8 introduction was awesome. Twenty bucks says they start shipping the David series about seven to eleven years from now.
i have to agree there. i had never seen the trailer, ive seen the movie more times than id like to admit. but you got me curious. so i looked at it on youtube. they dont make em like that no more.
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Posting here after seeing the movie. Have to say, I was pretty disappointed. :(
My biggest issue was that the characters were two-dimensional and weren't developed enough for their actions to make sense, and so as a result the story suffered. The most interesting character out of the lot was the Android, and I thought even he could have used a little bit of work. He could've been a bloody interesting character, and was shaping up to be, but the point at which he makes the throwaway line about wanting to kill our parents, I lost hope. For me, his motives were never explained, and neither were any of the other characters'.
The antag who happens to be old mate's daughter was probably my least favourite. Throughout the film she was this two-dimensional ragefaced megalo, as far as I could tell. The why was never explained adequately for me. And old mate, just...argh. In my blinded-with-disappoint rage, I just struggle to comprehend why he was even in the movie. So many characters just added nothing!
So yeah. Didn't really like this one. And I thought it was gonna be so good. :(
Disclaimer: I've never seen any of the other movies in the series.
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I haven't seen the movie, but just going on the trailer Fassbender does an excellent android. Feels like HAL 9000 in an animate body.
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Saw the movie, and...
I liked it during and briefly after the movie, but afterwards a lot of things started to annoy me. Firstly, the trailers kinda spoiled half of the story. Secondly, trailers and elements in the movie (mostly the crashing space jockey ship) led me to believe that it was the same ship than the one in Alien, and only after consulting the internet did I realize it wasn't, and that the story had directly nothing to do with Alien. Thirdly, space jockeys being basically human was boring, and them having nothing to them besides "they're evil" was very disappointing. Fourthly, a lot of the characters were shallow and their actions didn't make sense or weren't believable.
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Saw it, really enjoyed it. I see how they tied it in with the original films, as well. I'd recommend seeing it. It's not perfect (duh) but it doesn't dissapoint IMO.
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I'm not feeling the HR Giger here. That is...a great loss.
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aye, no dicks.
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I would give this an eight point five out of ten. Now I have to wait for the Hobbit... :(
Character development wasn't the best (there were about 17 crew, but we only get to see about 10).
I would have been freaking happy if...
Peter Weyland's arc was done a bit longer and something that was not cheating death, his part in the story was just plain out of focus and essentially busted the whole journey.
On the other hand... SOMEONE has to wonder what the hell the purpose of the Space Jockey on LV-426 was...
If you're sick of the usual horror flicks, Prometheus is a nice refresher. David was single-handedly the best character, but you have to wonder what else has he done for the whole two years on the journey while everyone else was in cryo.
Also, I'm kinda wondering how much of practical effects Scott and company added to enhance the believability factor of the film (watching Alien, I remember how the team actually took the time to build the whole set, and how the Nostromo had a scale model that was gliding along space, suspended by ultrathin wires).
It's kinda sad that I had to wait for a damned twenty minutes of trailers before Prometheus started up. (The show was supposed to start at 12:40 PM PDT where I live, but it really started at 1:00.)
aye, no dicks.
Imagine the power this film would have to mentally traumatize the next generation if we were able to make that happen. As if this film didn't scare at least one person enough from archaeology or having children... :lol:
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aye, no dicks.
Imagine the power this film would have to mentally traumatize the next generation if we were able to make that happen. As if this film didn't scare at least one person enough from archaeology or having children... :lol:
that was in reference to NGTM-1R's post. its not hard to find a dick in any of HR Giger works, as baddass as they are. the man loves his dicks :D
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Saw it a few hours ago. It was not perfect and certainly not without flaws. However, I went into it expecting "scary **** happens in space" and I'd say it delivered. :)
Also, that C-section scene. Holy****holy****holy**** D: D: D:
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Also, that C-section scene. Holy****holy****holy**** D: D: D:
That scene, more than any scene since a particularly brutal and realistic scene involving nonconsensual activities and their aftermaths from a film I saw some years ago, makes me glad my anatomy does not include female reproductive organs. The idea of something growing inside you...
Also, That monster was, I think, the best use of the double-chekhov that I've seen in a good long while.
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Just saw the movie and I have to say I am dissapointed.
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The movie seemed riddled with plot holes and convoluted logic. The characters all seemed to have death wishes, from the geologist whose first action inside what was a freaking cave was to shout, then the biologist who thinks nothing wrong with the crew removing their helmets on an unknown environment that seems to support life, the same biologist who was terrified five minutes before about alien life didn't seem to mind flirting with probably the same alien life form, the two female characters running for their lives from the falling alien ship didn't seem to think that running to the sides might have been a better idea (clearly didn't play Into the Lion's Den), the female executive wouldn't budge about letting the sick guy onto the ship and yet had no problems with letting the other dozen people who had been with the guy, etc. The list goes on and on and on. Just to add one more, the air capacity of the suits seemed to be inconsistent, with the suits having potentially lots of air, from the guys who had no problem staying god knows how long in the structure to the main character having lack of it when she escaped the structure near the end (even though she probably had planned to stay in the structure longer).
The movie is riddled with these inconsistencies and character death wishes. My final regret is that the only human character that survived was the one I found most irritating.
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I happened to see this PA strip (http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/06/13) right after reading your post. :lol:
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I was staring in disbelief when
she just basically rolled over...
WTF?!
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A flawed movie, definitely not the best I've seen recently, but entertaining nonetheless. However, I'm beginning to think all sci-fi screen- and game- writers should have to take a mandatory course in genetics. I inevitably have to switch off my brain whenever any of popular media these days talks biology because, despite the information being so easy to obtain, they always get it brutally wrong.
And the ring-running thing. That annoyed me. And the "scientific expedition" members who figured it was smart to breathe the atmosphere on an alien world...
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Well, at least it has real sets instead of a whole heap of green screens. Although I guess that is like saying "The dog crapped in my slipper, at least it wasn't on the carpet!"
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I was hoping for more but it's yet another film that spent too much money on special effects and not enough on writing. Compared to Alien 4, it has better special effects, less plot and worse writing (Which is saying something!).
It had potential, but felt like it 3/4 of the film had been cut out - There were so many points where the characters make a huge leaps of logic but then can't put 2 and 2 together.
And so much stupidity on the part of the characters, with the crowning moment for me being that part where the two people are running away from the thing when all they needed to do was take two side steps and they would be safe! But nooooo, they have to run along the path it's travelling!
It feels like it's just something to launch a spinoff for a series starring the idiot woman and the disembodied head off the back of the success of the Alien series...
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A flawed movie, definitely not the best I've seen recently, but entertaining nonetheless. However, I'm beginning to think all sci-fi screen- and game- writers should have to take a mandatory course in genetics. I inevitably have to switch off my brain whenever any of popular media these days talks biology because, despite the information being so easy to obtain, they always get it brutally wrong.
I was reading The Last Days of Foxhound last month (well, it's a trimonthly source of entertainment for me), and I think Psycho Mantis (http://gigaville.com/comic.php?id=54) would have (http://gigaville.com/comic.php?id=263) to agree with you, in any case. (http://gigaville.com/comic.php?id=427)
Something tells me we should have brought Michael Crichton back to life and made him write the film. Or at least, the writers would have taken a hint at what Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shusett did for the first Alien...
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Fun film, certainly the kind you want to talk about after seeing it.
Certainly was gorgeous, while Avatar was impressive visually it still looked like a video game, where Prometheus looked real.
Michael Fassbender was great as David, and actually if they decided to retell Lawrence of Arabia he could probably do a great job.
I was a little disappointed with Weyland's arc. WY was always looking to control and understand the zenomorphs in the prior films, Peter Weyland just looking to see if the Engineers would add some miles to his ticker seemed like such a let down, especially after the badass TED trailer he did earlier. I 'd rather them had been shooting for something grandiose like seizing their technology or looking to capture an Engineer. I thought that was probably the weakest part of the film for me. A better objective and a more thorough operation that failed in the face of the Engineers would have served better.
The rip tide thing with the ship was pretty dumb, and a pathetic end to Miss Vickers. I was rather hoping the icy ***** would have survived, though I suppose if she wasn't smart enough to run perpendicular to the line of travel of the Engineer ship then she probably would have run Weyland Industries into the red.
Course I laughed when my friend blurted out "The lowest common denominator! That's why they want to kill us!" When the biologist and geologist met their dumb idiotic ends.
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Yeah, playing with odd mysterious alien creatures is a sure sign that you're too stupid to live. They both had it coming.
EDIT: This movie just reconfirms what I know: in the future, nobody will be Genre Savvy.
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Just watched it yesterday. I also enjoyed the film, but there were definitely some off moments for me. StarSlayer pretty much covered everything, but one thing I want to point out:
The rip tide thing with the ship was pretty dumb, and a pathetic end to Miss Vickers.
I had so much expectation for her as a character. Besides David and Elizabeth, Vickers looked like the only other character that had something going for her. But instead, they killed her in the dumbest way possible. I suspended my disbelief for much of the ridiculousness, but that scene disappointed me greatly.
Still, I was okay with the rest of the movie. It was a good movie to watch with friends, I felt.
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Just saw it today.
I'd say it's a lot like Another. Nice scenery/setting/atmosphere, gratuitous death scenes, and (unintentionally) rather comedic - ending off with a hilarious sequence involving nothing less than pure distilled idiocy from the cast. I haven't seen much horror, but is this how it usually goes? :P
Nothing much to say except if the crew was a sample from anywhere between average to the more intelligent portion of humanity, the Engineers shouldn't have bothered worrying about killing all humans. I mean, they'd happily off themselves given the opportunity. Big Rolling Rings do a good of a job as bodyhorrorbioweapons, after all.
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So I believe one of the drafts of the film became available. You can read it here (http://www.prometheusforum.net/Alien-Engineers.pdf). After going through it I think I prefer the draft. Specifically the involvement of Weyland and generally smarter actions of the characters overall. While the final version might have been a bit more thought invoking in terms of the human condition the draft certainly seems more tight and less prone to fridge logic. I'd like to see what people think.
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the movie sucked, and reading about how good it might have been wont improve my opinion of it any. this is what im starting to call the battlestar effect. people are so incredibly scrapped for ideas they will just fall back on tried and true approaches. like making a massive depressing cluster****, kill almost everyone, and not really solve any problems.
battlestar kinda ruined scifi ever since it ended. not because it was good by comparison but because everyone just kinda sliced off a piece of its rotting corpse and designed their new fiction around the same atmosphere. so you get all this hurr im like galacica durr drivel.
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battlestar kinda ruined scifi ever since it ended. not because it was good by comparison but because everyone just kinda sliced off a piece of its rotting corpse and designed their new fiction around the same atmosphere. so you get all this hurr im like galacica durr drivel.
Anything that's big will have that effect.
Can't even blame the show for that. (Well you can blame it for a lot, but not for that ;)); it's a systemic issue.
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You could say that about Dr Who,
"I'm episodic, hurrrrr"
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You could say that about Dr Who,
"I'm episodic, hurrrrr"
What? What show is that?
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OH! You meant the Amy Pond Show: Starring The Doctor. Silly me. :P
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What? What show is that?
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OH! You meant the Amy Pond Show: Starring The Doctor. Silly me. :P
The Rory Williams Show: Starring Amy Pond (and the Doctor).
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i watched it and thought it was utter rubbish, just glad i rented it and didnt buy it. I was expecting something far better from ridley scott. He should of keep to his original idea and not to have made it a prequel to alien.
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Nobody understands this ****ing movie and it seems so transparently simple to me.
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So I suppose nobody read the draft script then?
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Nah, I did. I think it was purely on the superficial level 'a better movie', but also a more tired one. We've seen aliens hunting hapless fearful people in the dark before, we've seen chestbursters before, we've seen the renegade android. The characters behaved more logically but ultimately I don't think Prometheus (as a very black comedy) is interested in logic - the characters are the naive inhabitants of a Star Trek universe bumbling into the Lovecraftian/Lacanian real.
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oh i get it.
it still sucked.
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Auto-abortion ftw!