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Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: Vertigo1 on June 07, 2002, 02:40:54 pm
http://www.tecchannel.de/hardware/937/3.html

800MHz Clawhammer stomps 1.6GHz P4

Now if only they'll start playing the MHz game that Intel's playing, they'll start getting more sales.
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: Redfang on June 07, 2002, 02:43:41 pm
Already read that... :p
 
Hammer seems to be pretty good in 32-bit applications too. :) And that's not final version, and has only 256kb L2 cache, final should have 512kb... and more megahertz.
 
But that seems to be one powerful processor, if AMD can get it to 2+ Ghz, it will be very fast.
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: Zeronet on June 07, 2002, 02:43:43 pm
By 1 frame and anyone, it doesnt stomp my P4 1.8ghz :p.
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: Vertigo1 on June 07, 2002, 02:46:51 pm
Can you imagine a dual hammer system? :jaw:
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: Redfang on June 07, 2002, 02:51:02 pm
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Originally posted by MD-2389
Can you imagine a dual hammer system? :jaw:

 
Bah... doesn't help in things I do.
 
I think you can only have 1 processor Clawhammer system, but Sledgehammer systems can have 8 processors (not sure :)). :eek:
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: Liberator on June 08, 2002, 12:33:04 am
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Originally posted by Zeronet
By 1 frame and anyone, it doesnt stomp my P4 1.8ghz :p.


Take note, the Pentium has to double the chip speed and more than double the memory speed to get to within one FPS.  Let's face it Intel's time at the top end of performance systems is rapidly coming to an end.
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: aldo_14 on June 08, 2002, 11:08:59 am
Intels design is increasingl;y motivated to offer high megahertz rating over actual performance.  It's not exactly a shock to find the Pentiums are slow, especially with that pipeline.
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: wEvil on June 08, 2002, 03:29:26 pm
That's a knobbled hammer.

For a start it only runs at 800Mhz, has no SSE2, a semi functional 64-bit instruction set and probably no fancy features like superbypass (actually..scratch that, the hammer bus doesnt need it!) and hardware prefetching.

ANYTHING stomps a 1.6g P4 *ROFLMAO*

The hammer will probably have about 50-60% performance advantage over an identically clocked athlon XP.  in 32 BIT instructions.

Plus the hammer has a great memory system...the memory controller is on the processor die itself meaning if you add another processor you add another northbridge and double your memory bandwidth (you'll probably need seperate DIMM banks per CPU though...thats the problem with NUMA)

I'm looking to get a 4-way for rendering showreels out next year...course I wont own it..i'm hoping everyone will chip in, but anyway...64-bit Mentalray on a quad hammer...yummy :)
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: an0n on June 08, 2002, 04:02:43 pm
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Originally posted by wEvil
That's a knobbled hammer.

For a start it only runs at 800Mhz, has no SSE2, a semi functional 64-bit instruction set and probably no fancy features like superbypass (actually..scratch that, the hammer bus doesnt need it!) and hardware prefetching.

ANYTHING stomps a 1.6g P4 *ROFLMAO*

The hammer will probably have about 50-60% performance advantage over an identically clocked athlon XP.  in 32 BIT instructions.

Plus the hammer has a great memory system...the memory controller is on the processor die itself meaning if you add another processor you add another northbridge and double your memory bandwidth (you'll probably need seperate DIMM banks per CPU though...thats the problem with NUMA)

I'm looking to get a 4-way for rendering showreels out next year...course I wont own it..i'm hoping everyone will chip in, but anyway...64-bit Mentalray on a quad hammer...yummy :)

Should I be worried that I didn't understand any of that?
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: Stryke 9 on June 08, 2002, 04:43:41 pm
[stumbles in, dragging own left leg and most of the rest of someone else behind]

Groonhh.... BRAINS!

[drops body parts, hops over to wEvil, and begins eating his brain]
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: an0n on June 08, 2002, 04:45:11 pm
*attacks aldo, mauling his limbs to prevent escape*

*cracks open aldo's skull with a spoon and scoops out the squishy grey stuff inside*
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: Stryke 9 on June 08, 2002, 04:46:37 pm
[moves on to attack MD, as Zeronet and Redfang attempt to flee]
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: an0n on June 08, 2002, 04:48:03 pm
*beats RedFang to death with aldo's skull and eats his brains*
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: Stryke 9 on June 08, 2002, 04:49:41 pm
[throws MD's body at Zeronet just as Zeronet reaches exit, tripping him up]

[MD doesn't chow down, so Stryke does]
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: an0n on June 08, 2002, 04:53:08 pm
*skins Liberator and makes a nice zombie rug on which to sit and chow down on Lib's brains*
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: Stryke 9 on June 08, 2002, 04:53:39 pm
[passes the ketchup]

[stumbles out exit]
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: an0n on June 08, 2002, 05:03:45 pm
*drinks the ketchup*

*spikes the punch and leaves*
Title: Tech: Clawhammer vs. P4
Post by: Vertigo1 on June 08, 2002, 06:25:04 pm
Quote
Originally posted by wEvil
That's a knobbled hammer.

For a start it only runs at 800Mhz, has no SSE2, a semi functional 64-bit instruction set and probably no fancy features like superbypass (actually..scratch that, the hammer bus doesnt need it!) and hardware prefetching.

ANYTHING stomps a 1.6g P4 *ROFLMAO*

The hammer will probably have about 50-60% performance advantage over an identically clocked athlon XP.  in 32 BIT instructions.

Plus the hammer has a great memory system...the memory controller is on the processor die itself meaning if you add another processor you add another northbridge and double your memory bandwidth (you'll probably need seperate DIMM banks per CPU though...thats the problem with NUMA)

I'm looking to get a 4-way for rendering showreels out next year...course I wont own it..i'm hoping everyone will chip in, but anyway...64-bit Mentalray on a quad hammer...yummy :)


For a pre-production processor and motherboard, it did pretty damn good.  Intel needs to get cooking to even have a chance against the hammer.