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Title: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: T-Man on May 20, 2012, 05:08:42 am
Heya people. Was checking out a couple of model links that had imageshack pictures (http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=322916) and one of them slapped me with a virus (a person on the linked forum, 'Alan Phipps', states he got the same thing and the same virus).

I get a lot of 'pop-up blocked' warnings when i go to imageshack, so starting to get a bit worried that they might be getting virus-laden ads in their ad system. I know a lot of people here use imageshack for their pictures so thought i'd spread the word (if you could too i'd apprechiate). I think my AV fried whatever it was (dbl. checking now) but if you've had wierd 'virus detected' pop-ups that arn't from your AV you might want to run a scan ASAP.

Sorry to uber-panic like this (this is what happens when you let someone paranoid loose on the net! :lol:)!
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: watsisname on May 20, 2012, 07:34:42 am
Imageshack has been growing steadily less popular, specially after they stopped allowing direct image links.

I use imgur nowadays.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: Klaustrophobia on May 20, 2012, 12:33:22 pm
photobucket.  the worst thing i can say about them is twice a year or so i'll get an email i don't care about from them.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: General Battuta on May 20, 2012, 12:39:11 pm
Imgur is the way to go.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: redsniper on May 20, 2012, 01:41:29 pm
Tinypic seems okay so far.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: G0atmaster on May 20, 2012, 05:26:58 pm
Avast! told me something tried to download from there.  It blocked it, though.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: AtomicClucker on May 20, 2012, 05:45:58 pm
I can and will support the notion to abandon imageshack. I've since gone over to imgur for my image needs. Some people say we need ads to support services; partly true, but ads delivering malware is no excuse. Adblock and Noscript ho!
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: Klaustrophobia on May 20, 2012, 06:00:32 pm
I used to be a 100% IE guy.  Adblock is the sole reason I changed.  Unfortunately, it seems to be loosing effectiveness lately.  Ads are starting to get through in ways that I can't just add them to the filter, like imbedded in flash or popups on the page that I can't figure out how to block.  I wish there was an adblocker for IE.  Seems like there could be with the new versions that support ad-ons of all other kinds.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: redsniper on May 20, 2012, 06:15:41 pm
Well I mean, there's a constant race between the ad makers and the adblock guys. If you're seeing ads get through then it means they've found some new exploit and the adblock people are probably figuring out how to block it. If you want something that will block all ads, all the time, every time, forever, then you're going to be disappointed.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: AtomicClucker on May 20, 2012, 06:26:16 pm
I used to be a 100% IE guy.  Adblock is the sole reason I changed.  Unfortunately, it seems to be loosing effectiveness lately.  Ads are starting to get through in ways that I can't just add them to the filter, like imbedded in flash or popups on the page that I can't figure out how to block.  I wish there was an adblocker for IE.  Seems like there could be with the new versions that support ad-ons of all other kinds.

I use noscript, then several more addons like better privacy, https everywhere, etc. For an extreme measure, I tinkered with Firefox/Iceweasel and killed the majority of any disk or cookie storage to kill the ads.

Carpet bombing is not an easy answer, but it beats getting phallic enhancement ads. Case in point; while in one of my higher level history classes, a teacher showed us a selection of greek classical nudes with imageshack, then we got bombarded with both sexual enhancement ads and porn pushers. Awesomely hilarious, but nerve wracking when the majority of the class is breaking diaphragms during a finals lecture.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: Kolgena on May 20, 2012, 07:15:42 pm
How do you get imgur to upload images without reducing the quality? Imageshack was nice in that you could upload things without reducing the quality.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: Spoon on May 20, 2012, 08:01:10 pm
Tinypic seems okay so far.
I gave up on that **** site when they decided to be racist pigs suddenly one day. And block everyone 'cept for glorious americans from using the site. **** em.
Even if they changed their ways by now, I will hold a grudge forever.

Adblock and Noscript ho!
high five brother o/*\o
Because of this, I haven't had any issues with imageshack. This malware and shizzle has passed me by unnoticed.

Imageshack has been growing steadily less popular, specially after they stopped allowing direct image links.

Oh? I uh, must say I haven't gotten that memo. I've been using direct image links for a long time now and they all seem to be working fine still?
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: AtomicClucker on May 20, 2012, 09:02:14 pm
imgur, to my knowledge, doesn't re-size my pictures, but there are options to compress image size.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: Alex Heartnet on May 20, 2012, 09:55:08 pm
Yeah, I was rather surprised when an imageshack popup pretended to be Microsoft Security Essentials.  Imageshack was always okay to use before, if a bit slow, but now I will have to find a different site.  I can just imagine that a couple of months from now, some corporate boss will be wondering why imageshack ad revenue is way down, while unable to make the connection between poor service and loss of popularity.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: mjn.mixael on May 21, 2012, 09:04:55 am
Imageshack only blocked access to the direct links. If you are a savvy internet user, you can figure out what the direct link to your image is with relative ease. The link will still work too.

However, regardless of the malware or viruses... I've hated Imageshack for a long time simply because the site is gawdawefully slow...
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: The E on May 21, 2012, 09:13:23 am
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If you are a savvy internet user, you can figure out what the direct link to your image is with relative ease. The link will still work too.

Yeah, but that's just an unnecessary hurdle as far as I am concerned. Not to mention that if your site gets repeatedly greylisted by various AV vendors, it does not speak well of how your business is run.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: Kolgena on May 21, 2012, 12:58:21 pm
imgur, to my knowledge, doesn't re-size my pictures, but there are options to compress image size.

imgur is saving everything I put up at 80% jpeg quality. It all looks like **** once it's done with it.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on May 21, 2012, 01:41:41 pm
Imageshack is slow and virus-ridden, been that way for a long time. I never used it, because of that: used tinypic until they stopped accepting non-US users (in addition, they re-use your image urls! that's just evil), but now I use imgur. The only downside of imgur is that they compress any images above 1MB (http://imgur.com/faq#size), which may indeed lead to quality loss.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: ZekeSulastin on May 21, 2012, 02:16:38 pm
Imageshack is slow and virus-ridden, been that way for a long time. I never used it, because of that: used tinypic until they stopped accepting non-US users (in addition, they re-use your image urls! that's just evil), but now I use imgur. The only downside of imgur is that they compress any images above 1MB (http://imgur.com/faq#size), which may indeed lead to quality loss.

IIRC a free imgur account will automatically resample anything bigger than 256 kiB.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: Scourge of Ages on May 21, 2012, 02:36:17 pm
Which is the one that's "a place to slap up your images" or something, that's being used a lot around here?

I've been using Imageshack for years, never really had a problem with it, and I'm not sure what you mean by "removed direct links"? You mean like if you want only the image with no thumbnail, description, stupid imageshack viewer junk? Or something else?
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: The E on May 21, 2012, 02:38:19 pm
imagebin. But imagebin does not allow embedding, making it only usable for a certain range of applications.

Also note that imagebin images have a rather short lifespan.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: mjn.mixael on May 21, 2012, 04:35:37 pm
Imagebin is win for quick temporary non compressed image posts.

I use Photobucket for things I don't care about resizing.. then I just my own webspace to host images I want to keep at the highest quality possible...

Solution: you all need your own webspace.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: BlueFlames on May 21, 2012, 06:37:25 pm
Solution: you all need your own webspace.

Quite a few people do have webspace and don't even realize it.

I don't have a lot of positive things to say about Comcast's broadband service, but if it's what you're using, you've got ten gigabytes of upload space included as part of the service.  That space cap is shared with your e-mail inbox, but unless you're regularly sending and receiving some pretty enormous files, e-mail isn't going to eat up much of that cap.

A smaller broadband ISP in my area, Knology, offers ten megabytes of upload space to its customers, also included as part of the normal service.  It's not much, but if you're just putting up a few images to post in a forum thread that will fall off the face of the Earth within a week or two, it's adequate.

It's worth poking around the support section of your ISP's website or reviewing your service agreement, because you might just have access to a much better option than any of these image hosting sites provide.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: sigtau on May 21, 2012, 07:11:56 pm
If you register for an account on Imageshack, you can get the direct link to your images.  It's not that hard, I've done it before, and I use it primarily to mass-distribute groups of images (see the fractal art topic I made in gendisc a while back).

Imgur, Imagebin, and Tinypic are still going to be forever superior.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: Scourge of Ages on May 21, 2012, 07:42:16 pm
And with a little prodding, google docs/drive can also host images, and you can direct link it to forums and stuff.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: Nuke on May 28, 2012, 06:23:21 pm
photobucket works fine for me. i usually have a bigger issue with images compressed improperly for their content, where no cropping was done, where images are unnecessarily large, or where they were using a sub-optimal format. its not so much how much space an image takes up on a web page, but rather how much time it takes to load the image. images should be as small in filesize as possible to facilitate fast downloading. it should be there before i have time to say this is going too slow.

i dont need 1080p screenshots in png. for example when posting ksp accomplishments, i always halved the resolution and compressed around level 5 quality jpegs before uploading. these loaded instantly for me. digital photos also dont really need to be full resolution and lossless either, for example my sister has this really high end camera with a massive resolution, and shes a moron and doesnt know how to scale or compress, i rather despise looking at images she posts on the net. it takes 30+ seconds to load some of them, and she usually takes lots. not fun. it also doesn't make sense to not crop images when you're trying to show a specific detail. the images need not be identical in size.

im also starting to procuce a lot of engineering diagrams, cuircuit diagrams and **** like that. and im actually going to start saving these images as gifs, because theres not a lot of color detail, and gif supports n bit paletteization where n can be a variety of values. this can lead to pretty small images where color detail is not important. eaglecad diagrams dont seem to need more than a few colors, and using a small paletteized format works great for size reduction. i posted a jpeg of such a diagram a few days ago and it just looked like ****, and png dont make a lot of sense either, but gif does in this case.

tldr: people who dont know how to resize, crop, compress, and use appropriate formats have no buisness posting images on the net.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: Polpolion on May 29, 2012, 01:10:46 pm
And with a little prodding, google docs/drive can also host images, and you can direct link it to forums and stuff.

this changes EVERYTHING
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: mjn.mixael on May 30, 2012, 06:35:27 pm
I wonder if Google Drive has similar terms to Dropbox... Dropbox maintains that you aren't supposed to host files there for general download. If they detect too much traffic, they put a hold on your account.
Title: Re: Imageshack might not be safe!
Post by: Scourge of Ages on May 30, 2012, 07:03:24 pm
I wonder if Google Drive has similar terms to Dropbox... Dropbox maintains that you aren't supposed to host files there for general download. If they detect too much traffic, they put a hold on your account.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't. I found Google's general terms, and there didn't seem to be any prohibitions against it. And anyway, every file on docs/drive has a "share" option with a link to it.