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Title: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: mjn.mixael on June 04, 2012, 09:27:52 pm
Sony:

Some interesting content. (God of War, Assassin's Creed 3 (not exclusive though), The Last of Us)
Some boring content. (Long boring trailer for Beyond, that longass demo of the augmented reality Harry Potter book)

Jack Tretton sucking the fun out of it all + some pretty blaring broadcast sound issues.

Sony should have done better. Discuss.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: BlueFlames on June 04, 2012, 10:16:08 pm
Watchdogs looks potentially awesome, though I'll still give it a pass, if Ubisoft can't get its ****ty DRM sorted.  The rest of Ubisoft's press conference was utterly without merit, particularly the sheer amount of padding and god-awful banter between the hack speakers.

It's pretty clear so far that developers have very little idea what to do with the Wii U's tablet controller, as nearly every demo and trailer just shows the tablet dupicating what's being displayed on the television.  Microsoft's continuing to try to tag along with each fad that Nintendo taps into continues to be laughable.

EA's conference was pretty bland, but the FIFA '13 trailer gave me a brilliant idea:  Football Hooligan Simulator [year], with a Rioters versus Law Enforcement multiplayer mode.  **** the actual playing of soccer.  Make a soccer video game that completely ignores the playing of soccer, in favor of the aftermath of the playing of soccer!  I think I snoozed through the rest of EA's offering.

I honestly have not even bothered watching the rest of the E3 conferences.  Watchdogs stole the show for me.  It's the only big title that didn't feel like it was following a super-safe formula, and there was really no way that Sony could hope to top that, particularly since they have a commercial reason to be super-focused on the Vita, a platform that I have no interest in whatsoever.

It bears repeating:  Watchdogs (http://watchdogs.ubi.com/watchdogsgame/en-us/home/index.aspx#).  If you've only got time to watch ten minutes of E3 footage, that's the footage to watch.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: Scourge of Ages on June 04, 2012, 10:17:04 pm
Watch Dogs actually looks interesting. Not my kind of thing, but still interesting :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcMRkyoHKeA
(Thanks Swifty)

EDIT: Yep. Ninja'd.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: Mongoose on June 04, 2012, 10:19:43 pm
I don't think I've cared about E3 for several years now.  The only current-gen console I own is a Wii, and I have something like 80 unplayed games in my Steam library, so I can afford to not pay attention to what's new. :p
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: General Battuta on June 05, 2012, 07:12:17 am
simcity
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: Thaeris on June 05, 2012, 12:03:42 pm
Watch Dogs actually looks interesting. Not my kind of thing, but still interesting :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcMRkyoHKeA
(Thanks Swifty)

EDIT: Yep. Ninja'd.

So, this is Person of Interest, The Game?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: General Battuta on June 05, 2012, 12:04:42 pm
The best thing about the Watch Dogs trailer was them making **** up

e: this e3 is really bad
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: The E on June 05, 2012, 12:08:18 pm
I haven't been following E3 (and I certainly don't plan to start), but the meta-commentary about building genre fatigue for FPS games interests me greatly. Especially the question of what will come after.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: Alex Heartnet on June 05, 2012, 01:32:02 pm
Rock, Paper, Shotgun has published an interesting article about E3 (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/05/e3s-press-events-do-not-represent-the-gaming-i-know/) that a lot of gamers just might agree with.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: Scotty on June 05, 2012, 02:05:29 pm
That article: Glorious PC Gaming Master Race + nostalgia.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: General Battuta on June 05, 2012, 02:09:47 pm
Yeah I think that article is 100% on the money. There's no nostalgia involved because you only need to compare what we're seeing at E3 with what's actually making waves in gaming today.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: Gloriano on June 05, 2012, 03:14:03 pm
I'm quite suprised that Sony or Microsoft didn't have GTA V gameplay it could been huge but i guess Rockstar didn't bother about it
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: Spoon on June 05, 2012, 08:57:26 pm
Rock, Paper, Shotgun has published an interesting article about E3 (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/05/e3s-press-events-do-not-represent-the-gaming-i-know/) that a lot of gamers just might agree with.
Yeah I think that article is 100% on the money. There's no nostalgia involved because you only need to compare what we're seeing at E3 with what's actually making waves in gaming today.
+1
E3 has been everything I don't care about nicely contained in one package.

Edit: http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/06/05/the-e3-2012-press-conference-pc-gamers-deserve/
If only
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: Nuke on June 06, 2012, 10:21:40 am
fps games aren't all that interesting for me anymore. it was back when every generation of fps games either brought in new eye-candy and/or new gameplay features. and i generally do not like mainstream publishers all that much. the amount of bull**** in gaming these days is astronomical. im waiting on the next generation of consoles, not because i want one but because i want the game tech to jump forward on the pc side. since any change in graphics quality will carry over to the pc side. all the console ports have made the current generation of games a repeat of the last. i expect that to continue though unless pc games take over some serious market share.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: Titan on June 06, 2012, 12:20:28 pm
The XCOM trailer was kinda awesome.

NFS: Most Wanted not only pisses me off by refusing to get a new name (AGAIN, THAT'S TWICE CRITERION) but is also just absolute BLATANT cashing-in by EA on the Most Wanted name. There has yet to be any customization shown, and it looks like there won't be any. Instead it looks like a remake of Hot Pursuit 2010 in a city. The only things they talked about were Autolog 2.0 (Nobody gives a ****) and the cinematic crash physics (Which I don't plan on using, THANK YOU) so I'm not very happy with that, as one of my favorite game series is finally being raped under the EA money printing press. >.< And it really ticks me off, because it's more to do with bad design decisions from Criterion, and yet EA is going along with it because they know enough people will see it and think, "Most Wanted? HOLY ****! MONEY, TAKE IT!" and they can make a profit off of idiots like that.

And I hate the WatchDogs trailer. I hate it because it's so good. It looks AMAZING, but it's being published by Ubisoft, who I can't in good conscience give money to. My only hope is that by the time it's released I'll have my own computer that I can torrent it on.

Other than those, I haven't seen much form E3.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: Alex Heartnet on June 06, 2012, 12:52:40 pm
Bethesda Softworks seems to be about to beat Valve in releasing HL3.  They have this game called 'Dishonored', that seems to be somewhere between 'Steampunk Deus Ex' and 'Magical Hitman'.  Knowing Bethesda, it is going to be good, but riddled with more then a few bugs at launch.

That and XCOM are about the only big budget games I am interested in this year, though.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: MatthTheGeek on June 06, 2012, 01:08:01 pm
I heard about Dishonored too, and saw the trailers. I don't know how good it's going to be, but I really like the setting and ambiance.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: General Battuta on June 06, 2012, 01:13:25 pm
Bethesda Softworks seems to be about to beat Valve in releasing HL3.  They have this game called 'Dishonored', that seems to be somewhere between 'Steampunk Deus Ex' and 'Magical Hitman'.  Knowing Bethesda, it is going to be good, but riddled with more then a few bugs at launch.

That and XCOM are about the only big budget games I am interested in this year, though.

Ugh, I really wish people would stop doing this. Bethesda is not developing Dishonored. They deserve zero credit for it.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: BloodEagle on June 06, 2012, 03:03:48 pm
Bethesda Softworks seems to be about to beat Valve in releasing HL3.  They have this game called 'Dishonored', that seems to be somewhere between 'Steampunk Deus Ex' and 'Magical Hitman'.  Knowing Bethesda, it is going to be good, but riddled with more then a few bugs at launch.

That and XCOM are about the only big budget games I am interested in this year, though.

Bethesda development lacks the capability and intelligence to pull off a Deus Ex style game.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: General Battuta on June 06, 2012, 03:49:38 pm
Bethesda Softworks seems to be about to beat Valve in releasing HL3.  They have this game called 'Dishonored', that seems to be somewhere between 'Steampunk Deus Ex' and 'Magical Hitman'.  Knowing Bethesda, it is going to be good, but riddled with more then a few bugs at launch.

That and XCOM are about the only big budget games I am interested in this year, though.

Bethesda development lacks the capability and intelligence to pull off a Deus Ex style game.

bethesda isn't developing it
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: JCDNWarrior on June 06, 2012, 04:51:02 pm
Been watching most of the shows today, but dang, how many FPS games that are so incredibly similar, but what's worse is how there's practically no content that isn't all about overkill violence, Hollywood-like violence and presentation. It's as if that's what's the only thing. Even worse to me personally, some of those games seem to focus on war propaganda.

That said, I enjoyed the presentation of Halo 4 (Looks like it'll be a great singleplayer game and story), Black Ops 2 (Interesting scenario that some have been warning about, unmanned drone armies used against the army, too bad it's still the same old CoD formulae, but at least we know what to expect). Watch Dogs looks great, though surely a scary premise. Assassin's Creed 3 looks great as well, though I was less impressed with Revelations.

Dishonored looks like Half Life 2, Bioshock (Infinite) and Deus Ex put together, very interesting. Harvey Smith's one of the leads, one of the main developers of Deus Ex 1 (and 2...), but also Raf Colantonio, with games like Arx Fatalis and Dark Messiah of Might and Magic in his portfolio as well. Seems quite promising.

Crysis 3 failed to impress me particularly, it's like Crysis 2.5 for me, which doesn't interest me as much as Crysis 1's style. The weapons are the same, the music seems to be the same, the environment in the demo is practically the same, wonder what those '7 distinct areas' are like, I want to speed away from the very much limiting 'Urban Jungle' as soon as possible.

Hitman Absolution's pretty impressive technically, so many NPCs that actually seem to do something. In general it seems to be a solid title.

So, quite mixed feelings about this E3 indeed...
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: SypheDMar on June 06, 2012, 05:07:20 pm
Bethesda Softworks seems to be about to beat Valve in releasing HL3.  They have this game called 'Dishonored', that seems to be somewhere between 'Steampunk Deus Ex' and 'Magical Hitman'.  Knowing Bethesda, it is going to be good, but riddled with more then a few bugs at launch.

That and XCOM are about the only big budget games I am interested in this year, though.

Bethesda development lacks the capability and intelligence to pull off a Deus Ex style game.

bethesda isn't developing it
Like saying FreeSpace 2 is developed by Interplay am I right?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: Nuke on June 06, 2012, 07:00:43 pm
interplay is a publisher i actually miss. i was thumbing through my old games from the 90s, and i noticed that the majority of them were interplay titles. they published lots of good **** for the pc.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: BloodEagle on June 06, 2012, 08:13:00 pm
Bethesda Softworks seems to be about to beat Valve in releasing HL3.  They have this game called 'Dishonored', that seems to be somewhere between 'Steampunk Deus Ex' and 'Magical Hitman'.  Knowing Bethesda, it is going to be good, but riddled with more then a few bugs at launch.

That and XCOM are about the only big budget games I am interested in this year, though.

Bethesda development lacks the capability and intelligence to pull off a Deus Ex style game.

bethesda isn't developing it

Didn't say they were, and didn't mean to imply such.

I'm just saying they couldn't do it if they tried.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: Scourge of Ages on June 07, 2012, 02:17:31 am
Quote from: @Wolfire, via Twitter
Maybe I'm just cynical, but I always imagine the hidden in-game instructions when watching awesome E3 demos.

E.g. for Watch Dogs, imagine it saying "Press 'x' to trigger car crash now". If you don't, you lose, and the level resets.

"Find the company employee and listen to her phone call now." If you don't, you lose, and the level resets.

As cynical as it sounds, it also sounds very possible.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: Ravenholme on June 07, 2012, 08:05:06 pm
Penny Arcade's coverage of DS3 has made me tenatively excited for it - Hope it comes to PC.

http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/dead-space-3-added-co-op-the-expensive-way-and-boy-was-that-money-worth-it

Likewise with RPS' interview with Ubisoft re: Watch Dogs.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/07/hackers-paradise-ubisoft-on-watch-dogs/

And Zeno Clash II looks like it will probably be good :D So, these are probably some of my major picks from E3 2012.

I do agree with most of the RPS coverage and analysis of the event though.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Thus Far
Post by: Nuke on June 07, 2012, 10:44:46 pm
heres an article on vr with a video of john carmack @ e3 explaining all the issues with the hmds and how to resolve them:

http://hackaday.com/2012/06/07/where-is-my-ing-virtual-reality-display/