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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: FlamingCobra on July 26, 2012, 11:41:45 am

Title: Creating Jobs? Bah!
Post by: FlamingCobra on July 26, 2012, 11:41:45 am
How can we ever expect to "create jobs" in the united states if we keep giving tax breaks to companies who ship their jobs over seas?

If you don't believe me:
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/tax-breaks-offshoring-21655.html
Title: Re: Creating Jobs? Bah!
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 26, 2012, 11:52:42 am
Hi, can you give us some citations or a decently long well-thought-out reasoning or you know, anything that makes for a quality first post in a thread?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Creating Jobs? Bah!
Post by: Nuke on July 26, 2012, 12:58:02 pm
this has been going on for awhile. its not so much something they are allowed to do but rather a way that they exploit loopholes in the tax code. they aren't really shipping jobs overseas, just enough so that they can exploit the loopholes legally.
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Post by: Sushi on July 26, 2012, 03:42:51 pm
While we're at it with this kind of topic and post... what's the deal with airline food?
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Post by: BlueFlames on July 26, 2012, 05:17:49 pm
While we're at it with this kind of topic and post... what's the deal with airline food?

Well, they'd serve you steak, but then you'd complain about having no knife to cut into it.  Instead, they serve you ****, because you can properly break that down with the plastic spork that you're provided.
Title: Re: Creating Jobs? Bah!
Post by: Nuke on July 26, 2012, 08:31:33 pm
While we're at it with this kind of topic and post... what's the deal with airline food?

Well, they'd serve you steak, but then you'd complain about having no knife to cut into it.  Instead, they serve you ****, because you can properly break that down with the plastic spork that you're provided.

airlines still serve food?
Title: Re: Creating Jobs? Bah!
Post by: Sololop on July 26, 2012, 08:49:47 pm
Yup. And many at a ridiculous price, too.
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Post by: BlueFlames on July 26, 2012, 09:39:45 pm
airlines still serve food?

Pretty much only on 16-24 hour transoceanic flights.  But hey!  Since there's a fee for an airline meal on such flights, you can choose whether you want to spend your money on overpriced food or overpriced booze!  Capitalism!
Title: Re: Creating Jobs? Bah!
Post by: Beskargam on July 26, 2012, 09:59:54 pm
I vote booze. there aren't needles in it. . .
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Post by: Klaustrophobia on July 26, 2012, 10:18:36 pm
All (both) the flights I've been on that were more than a puddle jump connection served "food" and didn't charge for it.  Just the booze.  And the headphones.
Title: Re: Creating Jobs? Bah!
Post by: ssmit132 on July 27, 2012, 12:18:53 am
You had to pay for the headphones?
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Post by: deathfun on July 27, 2012, 01:23:01 pm
You had to pay for the headphones?

Indeed you have to (unless you have your own)
They gut you in whichever fashion they can
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Post by: Mikes on July 27, 2012, 02:12:51 pm
All (both) the flights I've been on that were more than a puddle jump connection served "food" and didn't charge for it.  Just the booze.  And the headphones.

Booze on a plane... bad idea anyways.

I do hope they didn't charge for refreshments in general. That would be criminal on longer flights.
Title: Re: Creating Jobs? Bah!
Post by: Klaustrophobia on July 27, 2012, 03:34:13 pm
if you want sound in both ears, most of the time you have to buy their headphones for $3 or so.  i didn't, i had an adapter.  i've gotten free coke/water/juice on every flight more than an hour or so.
Title: Re: Creating Jobs? Bah!
Post by: ssmit132 on July 28, 2012, 08:14:56 am
Strange, I don't recall myself or my mum (I have not travelled on an aircraft alone as of yet) ever having to pay for headphones on a flight; they were given to us soon after we boarded, if what I remember is correct. Maybe it's changed, though. I do know we haven't had to pay for refreshments, however.
Title: Re: Creating Jobs? Bah!
Post by: karajorma on July 28, 2012, 08:58:30 am
It depends on the airline. When it comes to Ryanair for instance, it's hard to tell which one of these stories is real.

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Ryanair may impose a “fat tax” after more than 30,000 passengers voted to levy charges on overweight passengers.

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Ryanair does not offer customers the possibility of contacting them by email or webform, only through a premium rate phone line, by fax or by post. An early day motion in the British Parliament put forward in 2006 criticised Ryanair for this reason and called on the company to provide customers with a means to contact the company by email.

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RyanAir has announced a new service charge for customers that will give passengers the option of paying “a small administration fee” to not be repeatedly struck on the head by truncheon-wielding cabin crew for the duration of their flight.

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In 2002, it refused to provide wheelchairs for disabled passengers at London Stansted Airport, greatly angering disabled rights groups. The airline argued that this provision was the responsibility of the airport authority. A court ruling in 2004 judged that the responsibility should be shared by the airline and the airport owners. Ryanair responded by adding a surcharge of £0.50 to all its flight prices.

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Michael O'Leary, Ryanair's chief executive, said the airline was ready to charge passengers for using the onboard toilets.

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The company believes that it could save money if it did not have to pay for baggage handlers to transport suitcases from the terminal to the aircraft. Currently passengers are charged £10 to put a bag into the hold. Passengers who are willing to do this would see the cost of checking in a bag reduced, but the airline was unable to say by how much.

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The option of checking in at the airport for €10 has been discontinued, and all passengers are required to check-in online and print their own boarding pass. Passengers arriving at the airport without a pre-printed online check-in will have to pay €60 for their boarding pass to be re-issued, whilst customers unable to check-in luggage online are asked to pay a €100 fee to do so at the airport. Ryanair has also replaced the free online check-in with a €6 online check-in fee which is charged per person, per flight.

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Ryanair has announced that an unnamed regulator has thwarted its plan to sell standing-only tickets, by refusing an application for test flights.

Under the scheme, a Boeing 737-800 would be fitted out with 15 rows of seats and 10 rows of standing berths. Michael O'Leary, the budget airline's chief executive, said: "We have asked the question could we run some trials on this and the immediate response is somewhat negative."

Asked how upright passengers would cope without seatbelts, he said the refitted airplane would resemble a classic London Underground train with its distinctive ball-and-strap fittings, saying: "Same as on the London Underground, handrails and straps.".


Remarkably, only one of those stories is satirical. The rest are either true or ideas they actually considered feasible at one point. :p
Title: Re: Creating Jobs? Bah!
Post by: BlueFlames on July 28, 2012, 10:14:39 am
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RyanAir has announced a new service charge for customers that will give passengers the option of paying “a small administration fee” to not be repeatedly struck on the head by truncheon-wielding cabin crew for the duration of their flight.

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Ryanair has announced that an unnamed regulator has thwarted its plan to sell standing-only tickets, by refusing an application for test flights.

Under the scheme, a Boeing 737-800 would be fitted out with 15 rows of seats and 10 rows of standing berths. Michael O'Leary, the budget airline's chief executive, said: "We have asked the question could we run some trials on this and the immediate response is somewhat negative."

Asked how upright passengers would cope without seatbelts, he said the refitted airplane would resemble a classic London Underground train with its distinctive ball-and-strap fittings, saying: "Same as on the London Underground, handrails and straps.".

Remarkably, only one of those stories is satirical. The rest are either true or ideas they actually considered feasible at one point. :p

I can't decide which of these two is less realistic.  Directly assaulting passengers strikes me as being less dangerous than having passengers standing for the duration of a flight.
Title: Re: Creating Jobs? Bah!
Post by: Mr. Vega on July 28, 2012, 08:47:23 pm
It has to be the last one. Noone is that stupid.