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Title: FS1/Silent Threat?
Post by: Megawolf492 on August 19, 2012, 08:40:47 pm
I've played FS1 and FS2 several times, but I've always wanted to play (the original) Silent Threat. Now, I know I can get the FS1/ST combo off of Good Old Games for pretty cheap, but I want a real game disk for ST. The game disk I have for FS1 appears to be one that was bundled with a computer (since it says "bundled software" on the disk). I believe it has the full campaign (I've checked the missions list and it matches) but when I try to update from the launcher, it says that updating is only available on the full retail version. I don't care about not auto updating; I can do it myself. I've seen FS1/ST combos on eBay/amazon that have 3 game disks (two appear to be for FS1 and one for ST).

So, is there really any difference between my disk and the "full retail version" disk(s)? Either way, should I just get a silent threat disk or this combo? Thanks and sorry if I missed the thread that already answered this.
Title: Re: FS1/Silent Threat?
Post by: Klaustrophobia on August 19, 2012, 08:57:08 pm
why do you want it on a disk?  i gotta be honest, it's a pretty bad campaign.  i wouldn't recommend spending extra time or money on it to get a hard copy.  you'll play it once and never again, especially with ST:R out there.  maybe once more years later, just to remind yourself how bad it was and how awesome ST:R is.

anyway, the only compatibility issues i recall is that my silent threat disk install from the fs1/st combo overwrote the 1.06 patch somehow, and auto-update wouldn't fix it.  since whatever server the game auto-updates from is long gone by now, that won't work anyway and you'll have to find a 1.06 patch floating around on the interwebs.  or just not update.  i don't really remember anything broken that 1.06 fixed, it was just needed for multiplayer.
Title: Re: FS1/Silent Threat?
Post by: Rampage on August 19, 2012, 10:06:42 pm
I didn't expect to read this in August 2012.  Almost uniformly everyone here uses FSO and the FSP with ST:R.  Unless you collect vintage game CDs, just get the GoG electronic copy and upgrade it with FSO.

R
Title: Re: FS1/Silent Threat?
Post by: Goober5000 on August 19, 2012, 10:29:29 pm
So, is there really any difference between my disk and the "full retail version" disk(s)? Either way, should I just get a silent threat disk or this combo? Thanks and sorry if I missed the thread that already answered this.
Your disk should be fine.  The only difference with "bundled software" is the license agreement: they don't want you selling it separately from your computer.
Title: Re: FS1/Silent Threat?
Post by: Megawolf492 on August 20, 2012, 07:51:56 am
i gotta be honest, it's a pretty bad campaign.  i wouldn't recommend spending extra time or money on it to get a hard copy.  you'll play it once and never again, especially with ST:R out there.  maybe once more years later, just to remind yourself how bad it was and how awesome ST:R is.

Well, like with most stuff people say is "pretty bad", I'd play it and like it. Either way, I wan't to play the original before playing something non-canon, even if it is similar and/or better. Anyways, thanks for the response.
Title: Re: FS1/Silent Threat?
Post by: MatthTheGeek on August 20, 2012, 08:00:24 am
In any case you don't have to buy a hard copy to play the original ST. Its port to FS2 is included with included with FSPort (and is different from STR).
Title: Re: FS1/Silent Threat?
Post by: mjn.mixael on August 20, 2012, 08:32:39 am
i gotta be honest, it's a pretty bad campaign.  i wouldn't recommend spending extra time or money on it to get a hard copy.  you'll play it once and never again, especially with ST:R out there.  maybe once more years later, just to remind yourself how bad it was and how awesome ST:R is.

Well, like with most stuff people say is "pretty bad", I'd play it and like it. Either way, I wan't to play the original before playing something non-canon, even if it is similar and/or better. Anyways, thanks for the response.

While normally I would agree with you about things most people dislike.... I'm fairly confident in saying that ST is completely unanimously considered to be terrible. not that you shouldn't try it. you can see first hand just how 'bleh' it is.
Title: Re: FS1/Silent Threat?
Post by: jr2 on August 20, 2012, 08:54:43 am
As far as the patches go, they are all uploaded to gameupdates.org, you can get them there.  Basically, install ST on FS1, then patch the combo to 1.06 and then optionally to 1.06EAX.
Title: Re: FS1/Silent Threat?
Post by: Klaustrophobia on August 20, 2012, 10:15:58 am
i personally don't recommend the EAX patch, i thought it sounded terrible.
Title: Re: FS1/Silent Threat?
Post by: jr2 on August 20, 2012, 10:21:15 am
I think that only sounds good if you actually have the hardware it was designed for... IIRC I tried it with a Creative Sound Blaster that had EAX, sounded great, tried it later with some generic card or a newer Creative one and it sounded like crap... I can't really remember though.
Title: Re: FS1/Silent Threat?
Post by: Klaustrophobia on August 20, 2012, 12:49:25 pm
i had the hardware and it worked fine.  i just thought it sounded absolutely ridiculous.  truth be told, i didn't really like EAX in ANY games back in the day when it was the cool thing to do.  it always just sounded like they threw in some reverb and called it "high quality."   i do remember EAX sounding quite awesome in the FS2 demo though.  did that get cut for the final game or something?  i never had the option on the full install.
Title: Re: FS1/Silent Threat?
Post by: jr2 on August 20, 2012, 03:50:58 pm
IIRC, yeah, it did.  :(