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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: karajorma on September 02, 2012, 06:35:46 am

Title: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: karajorma on September 02, 2012, 06:35:46 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19454739

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Pakistani police have arrested an imam accused of planting burnt pages of the Koran in the bag of a Christian girl accused of blasphemy, officials say.

The girl was detained two weeks ago near the capital Islamabad after an angry mob demanded she be punished.

However, a witness has testified that imam Khalid Chishti put the pages in the bag himself, local media say.

The case of the girl, named as Rimsha, who is said to be about 14, has sparked international condemnation.

A report by a government-appointed medical board seen by the BBC suggests the girl has a mental age of less than 14.


I really hope the mob he incited turn on him and give him a taste of his own medicine. His crime is after all worse. Even forgetting about the attempt to frame the girl, he's a muslim who burnt the Koran, surely far worse than someone of another religion doing it.
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: headdie on September 02, 2012, 07:03:40 am
In addition reading between the lines the girl has no been cleared and

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A report by a government-appointed medical board seen by the BBC suggests the girl has a mental age of less than 14.

This could get messy.
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: Dragon on September 02, 2012, 07:25:19 am
I hope it'll open some eyes on what religious fanaticism leads to. It's unlikely, but there's always hope.
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: karajorma on September 02, 2012, 07:33:21 am
Well a few people might be annoyed enough at being used that they react more carefully next time.
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: Al-Rik on September 02, 2012, 09:10:27 am
The Turkish newspaper Hurriyet has an other report about archaic justice, hitting the right guy:

The woman, a local in Isparta's YalvaƧ district, made headlines recently when she severed the head of a man who had been raping her and blackmailing her for months, tossing it into the open in the village square.  (http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/woman-who-murdered-her-rapist-seeks-to-abort-baby-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=29077&NewsCatID=341)
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: Bobboau on September 02, 2012, 09:56:26 am
karajorma, you are not a Pakistani Muslim cleric who tries to frame mentally ill Christian girls into getting lynched, so you are not permitted to judge him.
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: haloboy100 on September 02, 2012, 11:20:00 am
Pfft. Religion.

I'll bust out the popcorn for this one.
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: Dilmah G on September 02, 2012, 12:15:25 pm
I saw this issue in the paper the other day. Good to see that the poor girl is innocent; from memory she's handicapped, isn't she? I believe her parents made the argument that she wouldn't have known what she was doing anyway if she did it and no one seemed to give a ****.
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on September 02, 2012, 01:27:33 pm
Suddenly the 'bad guy' turns innocent, and the brain behind it all turns out to be the one everyone trusted! What a tweeest!

Seriously though, I hope this guy gets what he deserves. Planting false evidence on people is bad enough, but taking advantage of a mentally disabled kid to do it is just sick.
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: Legate Damar on September 02, 2012, 01:40:32 pm
If this girl is mentally impaired, then how does she possess the advanced reasoning and philosophical skills needed to choose a religion?
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: TwentyPercentCooler on September 02, 2012, 01:49:57 pm
If this girl is mentally impaired, then how does she possess the advanced reasoning and philosophical skills needed to choose a religion?

Implying people in backwards third-world religious theocracies are really allowed to choose their religion.  :P
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: Beskargam on September 02, 2012, 02:02:07 pm
I believe it says her parents are Christian, and therefore because she is her parents child she is associated with Christianity by default
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: stinkyFeet on September 02, 2012, 02:42:56 pm
Crazy arabs, conspiracy theorists, people who watch fox news...
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: karajorma on September 02, 2012, 06:14:20 pm
Pakistanis aren't Arabs. :p

That's like calling a Mexican a crazy Yankee. :p
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: Nuke on September 02, 2012, 08:26:35 pm
its sad that in this day and age people dont know the difference from an arab and a muslim.
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: Aardwolf on September 02, 2012, 10:27:18 pm
arab = guy in a turban
muslim = guy yelling "allah akbar!"
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: stinkyFeet on September 03, 2012, 12:46:14 am
Yeah, yeah. So I thought more of the Middle East was arabic than actually was. It's not like Pakistan is that far out.

its sad that in this day and age people dont know the difference from an arab and a muslim.

I was thinking of it as most of the people in this region. I made a little mistake. This was uncalled for.
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: Al-Rik on September 03, 2012, 06:12:11 am
its sad that in this day and age people don't know the difference from an arab and a muslim.

Not every Muslim is an Arab, but all Arabs must be Muslims.  ;)
Well, there have been some Christian Arabs, but they getting more and more pressure to convert from guys like that Pakistani Iman.

Oh, and there is no such thing as an Jewish Arab, even if Jews have been living in Arabian Country since ancient times.  ;)

Speaking about the Pakistani Iman:
According to some News his defence is "I was framed by the government !" lol.
To sad that were is a good chance that most of the people in his Village will believe him, not the three witnesses.
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: The E on September 03, 2012, 06:18:37 am
So there are no non-muslim Arabs except for those who are not muslim? Fascinating.
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: LordPomposity on September 03, 2012, 07:24:27 am
advanced reasoning and philosophical skills needed to choose a religion
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: headdie on September 03, 2012, 07:38:39 am
If this girl is mentally impaired, then how does she possess the advanced reasoning and philosophical skills needed to choose a religion?

fail

a person rarely gets to choose a religion, most follow in the family tradition or go non religious.  when someone does choose a religion it often comes down to family or pier group advice/pressure or the local norm/national religion.  the fact that the girl is mentally impaired has to be carefully considered
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suggests the girl has a mental age of less than 14.
this could mean a lot of things, ability to engage in social interactions, motor skills, ability to perceive the world.  take my sister at 26 her ability to interact socially and ability to live alone are both impaired but her academic IQ is borderline genius, so be careful making assumptions based on blanket statements.
Title: Re: For once, I look forwards to the death threats and calls of blasphamy
Post by: Nuke on September 03, 2012, 11:02:12 am
https://www.xkcd.com/1102/