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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Razor on June 13, 2002, 12:15:51 pm
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I was always woundering why is Kyle Katarn's lightsaber blue in Jedi Outcast when it was green in Dark Forces 2 ( well yellow if you turned to the light side)
Anyone have a good logical explenation on this one?
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um.........blue is cooler?
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That makes sense.
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i always thought of blue as a thinner less powerful lightsaber... probably thanks to fs2...
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You never saw it? Right under the button that turns on the lightsaber, there's a little color wheel that lets you have you laser sword in blue, blue-green, green, yellow, orange, red, or purple. There's also a light-pink lightsaber, but due to light interference problems, that can't cut through things, just vibrate and feel warm and vaguely tickly.
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How many years did you take to learn to ruin jokes?
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:p
You're born with stupidity.
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Originally posted by vadar_1
i always thought of blue as a thinner less powerful lightsaber... probably thanks to fs2...
I does kinda less powerful. I always thought that Jedi Masters use green lightsabers too.
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Well, Obi-wan used blue....
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Yeah, he died remember :p
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Originally posted by vadar_1
i always thought of blue as a thinner less powerful lightsaber... probably thanks to fs2...
and that would make Red light sabers the strongest of them all :)
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tsk tsk star wars fans, ya'll knowthe color depends on the corusca gem (Shaft used the sick ass purple saba, hes a masta)
i don't really think it matters, just a choice of prefrence
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Originally posted by Alikchi
:p
You're born with stupidity.
See now, that's the thing I was thinking about for the last 2 seconds. It didn't take me long to realize that either.
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Originally posted by Alikchi
That makes sense.
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Who cares about which color of lightsaber is more powerful? As long I like the color and I think its cool for a Jedi, who cares?! Just use it!:D Slice and dice!
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Originally posted by NeoHunter
Who cares about which color of lightsaber is more powerful? As long I like the color and I think its cool for a Jedi, who cares?! Just use it!:D Slice and dice!
Yeah blue owns. And it is very symbolic when you fight a dark jedi. He is red, which represents bloodshed and evil, and you are blue, the color of good things.
Anyway, it is a nice game. One minus is that music should have been more dynamic like in The Phantom Mennace (the game). Well the music in the last level owns.
Anyway, what I am most impressed by are the lightsaber battles. That reminds me. When I fought Tavion, I thought:" Bah she is girly pants! Anyway, I underestimated her and well.... but with practice, I mannaged to win. :D
By the way, why the heck does every Dark Jedi says to a lightsider: Join me!! Dessan did it, Vader did it, Emperor did it. Everyone did! And what did Dessan exactly mean when he said: The force will betray you to me. Did he think that Kyle would surrender to him or something?
Well this may be an OT post, but I just want your opinions.
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Originally posted by Razor
Anyway, what I am most impressed by are the lightsaber battles. That reminds me. When I fought Tavion, I thought:" Bah she is girly pants! Anyway, I underestimated her and well.... but with practice, I mannaged to win. :D
Tavion made me her little *****. I underestimated her due to my experience with the little Reborn cronies. After a while though, taking on multiple Reborn and Shadow Troopers was cake. I was really disappointed fighting Desaan though. His flunkies were far harder.
By the way, why the heck does every Dark Jedi says to a lightsider: Join me!! Dessan did it, Vader did it, Emperor did it. Everyone did! And what did Dessan exactly mean when he said: The force will betray you to me. Did he think that Kyle would surrender to him or something?
Expediency. You don't have to fight an ally (well, usually, thanks Jan. Nice blaster in the back). The comment about the Force is, I think, a warning. Every force power you use, he just reflects, absorbs or otherwise ignores it. You can't beat him at his own game. He sees through the mindtrick, he shrugs off lighting, he can't be gripped, and he can't be pushed or pulled.
Of course he can be distracted by five seeker drones and shown his role with when he decides to throw his saber like a pansy girl. ;)
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
tsk tsk star wars fans, ya'll knowthe color depends on the corusca gem (Shaft used the sick ass purple saba, hes a masta)
i don't really think it matters, just a choice of prefrence
True that. Lightsabers can be any color; Knight Templar is correct in saying that the color of the lightsaber just depends on the color of the focusing gem. No color does more damage than any other color.
Any Jedi, whether he/she/it is a lightside or darkside Jedi, can have any color he wants provided they have the right colored focusing gem. Just look at Jerec and his cronies from Jedi Knight 1; they are had different color sabers. Jerec uses a red saber, true, but so does Princess Leia in the New Jedi Order books. So seeing a red saber is no guarantee that you're facing a Sith Lord or even a Dark Jedi.
(That was one reason why I was disappointed in Episode II: the scene with 200 Jedi all fighting in the same battle and they only have blue and green sabers? C'mon, where's the color diversity? we've seen in the comp games that had Jedi and in the comics and RPG books? Lucas fumbled the ball on this detail, IMHO. Oh, ok, Lucas DID give Mace Windu a purple saber, whoo hoo. :doubt: )
Apparently, however, there is some sort of tradition that Sith lords (Namely, Darth vader, Darth Sidious, Darth Maul and Count Dooku AKA Darth Tyrannus) should wield red-colored sabers. I'm just assuming this, but it seems reasonable. Since the only Sith we ever see from the movies are the above characters, it's reasonable to assume that the Sith tradition of red-only sabers exists (maybe).
So while all Sith use red lightsabers, not everyone who uses a red saber is a Sith (or even a Dark Jedi!).
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Dessan easy? Huh make me laugh please. No Force power can defeat him. He absorbs lightning, can't be gripped and well can be pushed or pulled from time to time. But his lightsaber moves really slam me down. I can't block him easely and when our sabers lock, he pushes me 10 meters back. Whoa! He is really STRONG with the force. Besides look at the size comparisons. He is massive and Kyle is week and small. Huh are all Kowakian monkey lizards like him? No wait, he is oversized. :D
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Force Speed is the key, my son.
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Originally posted by Thunder
Force Speed is the key, my son.
Yes, it does kind of help against...everyone... :wink:
It's a ridiculously unbalanced force power in SP. I suggest you use it a lot. :D
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Side attacks - gets him every time :)
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Originally posted by Thunder
Force Speed is the key, my son.
Hey, mister I am 17! Hello!
And don't let me ever catch you calling me son or else...:headz: :snipe:
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Yeah... whatever...:rolleyes:
Anyway, Force Speed works. Experiment with it.
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Originally posted by Razor
Dessan easy? Huh make me laugh please. No Force power can defeat him. He absorbs lightning, can't be gripped and well can be pushed or pulled from time to time. But his lightsaber moves really slam me down. I can't block him easely and when our sabers lock, he pushes me 10 meters back. Whoa! He is really STRONG with the force. Besides look at the size comparisons. He is massive and Kyle is week and small. Huh are all Kowakian monkey lizards like him? No wait, he is oversized. :D
Desaan is pathetic. Drop to a strong stance (red on your indicator) and jump down to face him. While you're falling release all the seeker drones you've picked up (lightsaber duels are the ONLY things they are good for, IMHO). Now, Desaan is going to do one of two things: he's going to be distracted by the seekers or he's going to attack you directly. Hit your Force Speed, wait for him to swing. Run around to the side or back and cut him down like the Jurassic Park reject he is. If he doesn't die, repeat.
You can do this without taking any damage if you don't panic.
Now, someone tell me why no Reborn, Shadow Trooper, or Dark Jedi uses Force Speed to make me feel like the pathetic lightsaber n00b that I am?
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Originally posted by mikhael
Desaan is pathetic. Drop to a strong stance (red on your indicator) and jump down to face him. While you're falling release all the seeker drones you've picked up (lightsaber duels are the ONLY things they are good for, IMHO). Now, Desaan is going to do one of two things: he's going to be distracted by the seekers or he's going to attack you directly. Hit your Force Speed, wait for him to swing. Run around to the side or back and cut him down like the Jurassic Park reject he is. If he doesn't die, repeat.
You can do this without taking any damage if you don't panic.
Now, someone tell me why no Reborn, Shadow Trooper, or Dark Jedi uses Force Speed to make me feel like the pathetic lightsaber n00b that I am?
Reborn master uses force speed. Tavion uses force speed.
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Originally posted by mikhael
Now, someone tell me why no Reborn, Shadow Trooper, or Dark Jedi uses Force Speed to make me feel like the pathetic lightsaber n00b that I am?
Quit playing on easy? ;)
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Originally posted by Razor
Reborn master uses force speed. Tavion uses force speed.
I don't recall Tavion using Force Speed. I remember her using mind trick though.
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Originally posted by mikhael
I don't recall Tavion using Force Speed. I remember her using mind trick though.
Mind trick? You must be joking! And yes she does use force speed when you use it.
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Yeah she used Force Mind Trick on me too I believe, made her invisible until she swung her saber again...
At least thats how I recall it... Finished the game on Jedi Knight difficulty awhile back.
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Tempted to follow Razor arounf calling him "son" like the legal minor he is until he learns to recognise the use of standard pop-culture idiomatic expression during a conversation without being ridiculously pesonally offended.
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Edit: Damn straight.
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Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
Tempted to follow Razor arounf calling him "son" like the legal minor he is until he learns to recognise the use of standard pop-culture idiomatic expression during a conversation without being ridiculously pesonally offended.
Now, now, play nice :drevil: