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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mefustae on September 19, 2012, 04:58:50 am

Title: Star Wars!
Post by: Mefustae on September 19, 2012, 04:58:50 am
I know I'm probably going to hell just for linking to a single youtube video of questionable importance in the grand scheme of things, but...

Holy ****muddling ****, why can't we see more Star Wars like this? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tBM2ZfncoU&feature=g-all-lik)

It's entirely fan made, and still a work in progress that was released rather prematurely. The video above is merely that of another fan adding some SFX and music to an otherwise mute animation.  It's awesome and whatnot, but my real question relates to the current situation of space sims and - more pertinently - Star Wars space sims. I know it's a dead genre (for the time being), but seriously, let's see some forward motion here! Someone track down George Lucas, grab him by the jowls, and make him sign a poorly-written order for LucasArts to commence work on a next-gen Tie Fighter game!

Or perhaps an animated series about a Tie Fighter academy, or something. Like that old Wing Commander Academy cartoon that used to be on back in the 90s.
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: Cobra on September 19, 2012, 05:03:57 am
The only thing wrong with that video is that there's a female TIE pilot in there.

The space sim genre is kinda sorta still alive. There's a space sim called Faster Than Light  that's been released on Steam which more or less has you as the captain of some starship, or... something.
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: Mefustae on September 19, 2012, 05:07:22 am
The only thing wrong with that video is that there's a female TIE pilot in there.

Could just be a really effeminate Coruscanti male. The Empire has a well-known bias against aliens and women serving in their armed forces, but they never said anything about sexual orientation
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: General Battuta on September 19, 2012, 06:36:42 am
The only thing wrong with that video is that there's a female TIE pilot in there.

erisi dlarit
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: Dragon on September 19, 2012, 07:16:36 am
IIRC, the Empire didn't explicitly forbid females from serving, but they did make careers difficult for them, because of the bias. This usually resulted in them having only few female pilots and soldiers, but those who managed to get in were usually brilliant (or, in rare cases, bedded the right man). A female ace would be likely to fly a TIE Fighter, as she won't exactly be near the top of the line for a transfer to more advanced fighters.
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: The E on September 19, 2012, 07:20:41 am
IIRC, the Empire didn't explicitly forbid females from serving, but they did make careers difficult for them, because of the bias. This usually resulted in them having only few female pilots and soldiers, but those who managed to get in were usually brilliant (or, in rare cases, bedded the right man). A female ace would be likely to fly a TIE Fighter, as she won't exactly be near the top of the line for a transfer to more advanced fighters.

Admiral Daala? "Brilliant"? Really?


(to be fair, she was handicapped by being a character thought up by Kevin Anderson, but still....)
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: Dragon on September 19, 2012, 07:40:36 am
Daala was a starship captain, and the biggest problem with her was the guy who created her. I haven't read those novels (they're somewhat hard to come by in Poland), but for what I know from Wookiepedia, she'd be a great character if written by someone else. She had to be an excellent commander in order to reach the rank she did (and was stated as such), but she lost most of actual battles she commanded...
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: Scotty on September 19, 2012, 09:07:58 am
IIRC, the Empire didn't explicitly forbid females from serving, but they did make careers difficult for them, because of the bias. This usually resulted in them having only few female pilots and soldiers, but those who managed to get in were usually brilliant (or, in rare cases, bedded the right man). A female ace would be likely to fly a TIE Fighter, as she won't exactly be near the top of the line for a transfer to more advanced fighters.

Admiral Daala? "Brilliant"? Really?


(to be fair, she was handicapped by being a character thought up by Kevin Anderson, but still....)

And she also bedded the right man.  Grand Moff Tarkin is the right man, no?
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: headdie on September 19, 2012, 09:30:49 am
IIRC, the Empire didn't explicitly forbid females from serving, but they did make careers difficult for them, because of the bias. This usually resulted in them having only few female pilots and soldiers, but those who managed to get in were usually brilliant (or, in rare cases, bedded the right man). A female ace would be likely to fly a TIE Fighter, as she won't exactly be near the top of the line for a transfer to more advanced fighters.

Admiral Daala? "Brilliant"? Really?


(to be fair, she was handicapped by being a character thought up by Kevin Anderson, but still....)

And she also bedded the right man.  Grand Moff Tarkin is the right man, no?

even then she only got posted to guard, while important, about the most out of the way research facility in the Empire.  I think the most notable exceptions to "no non HuMan rule" were Isard, but again a lot of that came down to who her farther was and Mara Jade.
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: StarSlayer on September 19, 2012, 09:39:32 am
I'd imagine the Imperial Intelligence probably has less qualms about using women and non humans.  Strictly male humans would really limit the assets they could use in the field.  Lara Notsil and Isaard were likely not the only female agents in the entire Intel community.
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: headdie on September 19, 2012, 09:43:27 am
I'd imagine the Imperial Intelligence probably has less qualms about using women and non humans.  Strictly male humans would really limit the assets they could use in the field.  Lara Notsil and Isaard were likely not the only female agents in the entire Intel community.


no but there is a big leap from field operatives/analyst and Director of Imperial Intelligence especially when there were probably several men who would have at least the same chance based on ability and service record.
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: StarSlayer on September 19, 2012, 09:53:15 am
I thought we were arguing about TIE pilots not Directors of Imperial Intelligence?
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: headdie on September 19, 2012, 10:30:31 am
I thought we we talking about women holding positions within the imperial structure
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: Flipside on September 19, 2012, 11:48:50 am
I suspect that was more about the attitude towards hiring action heros in the '70s that has just got turned into canon by the loveable, but occasionally over-zealous Star-Wars fandom ;)
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: Aardwolf on September 19, 2012, 12:27:36 pm
Was there really a point in showing the pilots through the suits in the first place?
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: Cobra on September 19, 2012, 12:28:10 pm
It's called emotion, Aard. :P
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: Mongoose on September 19, 2012, 01:53:18 pm
More on-topic, is that otaking guy who's creating the animation the same guy who did that Doctor Who "anime" clip?  Because the animation style's almost a dead-ringer if it isn't.
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: Cobra on September 19, 2012, 01:55:24 pm
The only thing wrong with that video is that there's a female TIE pilot in there.

erisi dlarit

Yeah well that didn't look like her. :P
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: Flaser on September 19, 2012, 02:40:46 pm
More on-topic, is that otaking guy who's creating the animation the same guy who did that Doctor Who "anime" clip?  Because the animation style's almost a dead-ringer if it isn't.

Yep it is. As usual, his stuff looks great... it's a pity you don't see detailed designs with that many layers of shading nowadays. I love the way he humanized the normally "faceless" TIE pilots while making it clear to the viewer they're in helmets all the while.
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: NGTM-1R on September 19, 2012, 03:03:34 pm
The only thing wrong with that video is that there's a female TIE pilot in there.

The Empire didn't really forbid you from signing up, it just made your career difficult.
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: -Sara- on September 28, 2012, 01:19:41 pm
Very nice vid!

The space sim genre is kinda sorta still alive. There's a space sim called Faster Than Light  that's been released on Steam which more or less has you as the captain of some starship, or... something.

Lucasarts was listing jobs, asking for people with flight sim experience I believed. Few months ago they trademarked "Star Wars: First Assault" and bought a domain for it. So perhaps a new flight sim. Name reminds me of Rebel Assault.
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: Cobra on September 28, 2012, 02:12:29 pm
It could very well be a continuation of the Rebel Assault series, or hopefully the X-Wing/TIE series. But the way LucasArts is going with their games it's probably going to be some dumb-ass gimmick game.
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: Luis Dias on September 28, 2012, 02:25:32 pm
Hey, it's gonna be a KINECT game!

Not "drive" your X-Wing, BE your X-WING!

Not "The force may be with you", "YOU BE THE FORCE!!"

Cashizzillions.
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: General Battuta on September 28, 2012, 02:30:37 pm
Set S-foils to spread eagle
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: Cobra on September 28, 2012, 07:04:36 pm
Hee hee you said spread eagle.
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: -Sara- on September 28, 2012, 07:42:18 pm
Lucasarts actually wanted to make games themselves again, instead of letting others make them. So I'm guessing they're going back to their roots.

Star Wars 1313 looks good also.

They also hired for a Star Wars game with Open World RPG setting, that's the same what Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, Daggerfall etc is. A Star Wars game that plays like Skyrim? Bring it on.

Another game genre they hired for was a 1st person shooter, so maybe a new Dark Forces or Battle Front successor, as 1313 is the adventure genre they hired for so this must be something different.
Title: Re: Star Wars!
Post by: Verex on September 30, 2012, 10:12:15 pm
Best combat game I found was actually a mod on Battlefield 2142 called First Strike, its pretty well polished up and nothing beats the death star run, spawning near the hangar bays or turrets and blasting those pathetic rebels too atoms. Personally wish Thrawn wouldve been in the movies, that guy shouldve made it alot further than what he did. but Thrawn is another topic.