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Title: Urgent Help Needed
Post by: aldo_14 on June 22, 2001, 03:02:00 pm
I have a major problem with one of my models.  I completed and glued together all the LODs, debris and shield objects (+44-odd turrets,etc).

Hwever, when I converted to pof format, I get an error message (Error 6010: Too many points in poygon (>20)) , and ye olde shards o' death in FRED2.

Now, LOD0 on its own works ok in Freespace (including the shield).  So I'm assuming there is a poly limit for conversion of models.  Firstly, am I right?  Secondly, does anyone know the limit?

Finally, does anyone know if shield objects count towards this?

NB:  Cob2fs2 does not convert, but Kazans does.

Thanks for any help given   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

(edit)
Hmm, noticed that Modelview displays 5 LODs (none of which are viewable) when I load up the model - 0 to 5.  So maybe a debris problem.

Also, the total vertex count = 3380, 4509 faces (from 3d Exploration) for all LODs, debris and shield objects.

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Title: Urgent Help Needed
Post by: The Claw on June 22, 2001, 03:21:00 pm
That's... quite a lot of polygons...
 The amount you have to be looking at is per sub-object, AFAIK, on which the limit is about 800.

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Title: Urgent Help Needed
Post by: aldo_14 on June 22, 2001, 03:29:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by The Claw:
That's... quite a lot of polygons...
 The amount you have to be looking at is per sub-object, AFAIK, on which the limit is about 800.


LOD0 - 1800 facess (turreted) - main hull 756
LOD1 - 1200-ish
LOD2 - 300/500 ish
LOD3 - 30-odd
Debris - not sure, 500 total methinks
Shield - 500-ish

LOD0 runs ok with a shield on its own, so I know it can't be that big main hull object.  I'm assuming it's to do with the the toal polys.  I've had higher poly main hulls working.

Possibly could be that i have sub-models on LOD0 and 1.  I fixed a bad name of a debris pices (it was called detail4), but the problems continue.

Title: Urgent Help Needed
Post by: Nico on June 22, 2001, 03:36:00 pm
you know lods are here to make the processor work easier... so a second lod with 1200 polys is quite nonsense...

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Title: Urgent Help Needed
Post by: aldo_14 on June 22, 2001, 03:57:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by venom2506:
you know lods are here to make the processor work easier... so a second lod with 1200 polys is quite nonsense...



I just do it for completism, really -  the main difference is with the lower 2 LODs.
Title: Urgent Help Needed
Post by: aldo_14 on June 22, 2001, 04:40:00 pm
I think I have it  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/spineyes.gif)

Looks like it is something to do with the shared sub-objects - those on both LODs.  For example, i have a turret named turret01a on LOD0, and turret01b on LOD1.  It only converts when I delete turret01b.

So hopefully I can get the naming right.  If not, I'll just have to compromise.  If anyone can tell me where I'm going wrong, pleae post here.  Cheers  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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