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Title: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Lorric on October 05, 2012, 09:50:26 pm
Hmmm. Made me think a little of a mission in Colony Wars, where you get thrown out in the middle of nowhere alone with enemies to fight when your jump malfunctions. You simply have to survive long enough for your capital ship to jump in and pick you up.

May we see some Sylphia art please? You must have some, since she is there already in the video.

Better yet, bring her out to say hello, so we can chat with her :)
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: NGTM-1R on October 05, 2012, 10:10:06 pm
Better yet, bring her out to say hello, so we can chat with her :)

I can't help but hear this in...actually I'm not sure who's voice this is, but it's creepy as ****.

Please don't suggest this again.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Lorric on October 05, 2012, 10:14:09 pm
Better yet, bring her out to say hello, so we can chat with her :)

I can't help but hear this in...actually I'm not sure who's voice this is, but it's creepy as ****.

Please don't suggest this again.

Then it's not mine. You need to get a friendly voice to say it.

I am merely requesting a mini version of the ask a crewmember thread. Let's get to know the new character.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Droid803 on October 06, 2012, 12:04:59 am
Better yet, bring her out to say hello, so we can chat with her :)

I can't help but hear this in...actually I'm not sure who's voice this is, but it's creepy as ****.

Please don't suggest this again.

Then it's not mine. You need to get a friendly voice to say it.

I am merely requesting a mini version of the ask a crewmember thread. Let's get to know the new character.

And judging from what happened to the actual Ask a Crewmember thread when you came in contact with it.
I'm thinking...no. :P

It's cool to be a fan (I'm a big fan of Spoon's work too!), but please don't be a creepy obsessive fan.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Lorric on October 06, 2012, 05:57:13 am
Better yet, bring her out to say hello, so we can chat with her :)

I can't help but hear this in...actually I'm not sure who's voice this is, but it's creepy as ****.

Please don't suggest this again.

Then it's not mine. You need to get a friendly voice to say it.

I am merely requesting a mini version of the ask a crewmember thread. Let's get to know the new character.

And judging from what happened to the actual Ask a Crewmember thread when you came in contact with it.
I'm thinking...no. :P

It's cool to be a fan (I'm a big fan of Spoon's work too!), but please don't be a creepy obsessive fan.

So why suddenly when everyone was all excited about the new Cyrvans in the other thread and were all over them like ants at a picnic, that was okay, and now we have another new Cyrvan, and suddenly it's wrong now, and creepy and obsessive?
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: SpardaSon21 on October 06, 2012, 02:36:59 pm
There's all over, and there's wanting to kidnap and rape one of them.  I think you should just stop posting in this subforum so we can all properly appreciate our wise elven overlords. :nod:
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Dragon on October 06, 2012, 03:48:52 pm
So why suddenly when everyone was all excited about the new Cyrvans in the other thread and were all over them like ants at a picnic, that was okay, and now we have another new Cyrvan, and suddenly it's wrong now, and creepy and obsessive?
You are creepy and obsessive. Seriously, that's the second decent thread locked because of your deranged fantasies. Sorry if I sound harsh and impolite, but I feel somebody had to say it. You're grossing people out, there's a difference between being excited about a new character and acting like she existed IRL.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Lorric on October 06, 2012, 05:47:02 pm
So why suddenly when everyone was all excited about the new Cyrvans in the other thread and were all over them like ants at a picnic, that was okay, and now we have another new Cyrvan, and suddenly it's wrong now, and creepy and obsessive?
You are creepy and obsessive. Seriously, that's the second decent thread locked because of your deranged fantasies. Sorry if I sound harsh and impolite, but I feel somebody had to say it. You're grossing people out, there's a difference between being excited about a new character and acting like she existed IRL.

Neither thread was locked because of me. The character quote thread Spoon just got tired of it. The last thread had fizzled out, Spoon told me to stop and I obeyed a while before he closed it.

Plenty of people treated the characters as if they were real. It's far from just me. And actually, Yaiceca is the one I treated real the least.

I am really struggling to understand how I caused offence, but I will cease "fueding" with Yaiceca since it bothers so many people. I only wanted to amuse you all at the end of the day. The "rape" thing only came about because I misjudged the mood of the forum. there were lots of Decker and Firestorm posts floating around, and I was still new to the forum and hadn't seperated these two out from the rest of the pack yet.

I think something's really gotten lost in translation somewhere, you've all really misinterpreted my true nature. I ask you all to draw a line under this whole thing with my declaration that this Yaiceca thing is at an end and judge me from here with a clean slate please. I would never do anything I threatened to do to Yaiceca in real life, even if treated the exact same way by a real person.

And I am not creepy. Tell them please, Crystal...

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Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: yuezhi on October 06, 2012, 05:56:49 pm
i'm not convinced. show me a restraining order and stop manipulating images. so far you're the only one who's done that.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Lorric on October 06, 2012, 06:02:03 pm
i'm not convinced. show me a restraining order and stop manipulating images. so far you're the only one who's done that.

What's wrong with playing with the Wings of Dawn art?

As for you not being convinced, if you won't take my word for it, what am I supposed to do? You'll just have to watch and see.

Unless you want to make me a restraining order and I'll sign it for you  :D
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Spoon on October 06, 2012, 06:36:50 pm
Lorric...
Ya know, I don't think I've ever seen Dragon let someone know so strongly what he thinks of them! And I don't exactly think anyone else who posted here was being very subtle about it either. Even an admin that normally doesn't make any posts around these parts had to tell you. Maybe its time to take the hint.

I appreciate you being a fan. But the moment you start posting, things either get creepy in a bad kind of way or the whole topic goes off tracks.
And even my nearly inhuman amount of patience regarding these things is starting to run out.

So this is pretty much the last time I'm going to ask you to improve your posting behavior. No more creepy things, no more drama, no more wierdness.
Please

Maybe someday I'd like WoD to be accessible to people without them all getting creeped out.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Lorric on October 06, 2012, 07:06:03 pm
Lorric...
Ya know, I don't think I've ever seen Dragon let someone know so strongly what he thinks of them! And I don't exactly think anyone else who posted here was being very subtle about it either. Even an admin that normally doesn't make any posts around these parts had to tell you. Maybe its time to take the hint.

I appreciate you being a fan. But the moment you start posting, things either get creepy in a bad kind of way or the whole topic goes off tracks.
And even my nearly inhuman amount of patience regarding these things is starting to run out.

So this is pretty much the last time I'm going to ask you to improve your posting behavior. No more creepy things, no more drama, no more wierdness.
Please

Maybe someday I'd like WoD to be accessible to people without them all getting creeped out.

Spoon, first of all I approve of the topic title. I couldn't have thought of a better one myself. I had actually been thinking of creating a topic myself to deal with this issue and invite people in to discuss it. This will do for that purpose.

Did you not read my last post? I have pledged to drop the Yaiceca thing. That should hopefully solve the problem, I don't think there have been any issues that don't involve her. However, just telling me not to be creepy or weird is not helping me. I can't see what you people are seeing in me. I am not causing these problems on purpose, nor do I know how to fix them if cutting out Yaiceca doesn't solve the problem. I think it will though.

I don't mind a lack of subtlety, in fact it will probably help here, just as long as no one attacks me. The topic has been named "Lorric learns about what people think of him." I'd like to think people would learn about me too. The real me, not the fake me that went after Yaiceca.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: -Norbert- on October 07, 2012, 03:31:41 am
The post was nice, but the picture in it undermined the message immediately, throwing you right back into the weird zone.

Besides I don't think just talking about it in here, will convince many people. Just let deeds follow your words (in other threads) and after a time people will form a better opinion of you.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Lorric on October 07, 2012, 07:00:17 am
The post was nice, but the picture in it undermined the message immediately, throwing you right back into the weird zone.

Besides I don't think just talking about it in here, will convince many people. Just let deeds follow your words (in other threads) and after a time people will form a better opinion of you.

Now that I just don't get, that picture is me trying to lighten the mood around here, as well as try to get people to understand I am not creepy. Not be weird. Why on Earth is it weird?

If deeds are needed so be it. What people don't seem to understand is I have no obsession with Yaiceca. It was only a fake obsession. I can stop effortlessly. You will all see. However, people need to start giving me the benefit of the doubt and not view everything I do as somehow dark and sinister, or everyone is going to lose. I can't redeem myself if people won't let me.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: -Norbert- on October 07, 2012, 07:29:12 am
I think it's a bit weird, because for me it felt like "Since my words alone are not enough, I need to use the friendly Cyrvan everyone likes to bring my point across".

I'm all for giving you the chance to show how you really are, but as I already said, I do not think this is the appropriate place to do so.
It's easy to say "I'm all over it now" or "I never really was like that" in a sterile enviroment. That's why people will stay suspicious.

But once you proven your point in the face of temptation (so to say), people will take you serious (or in this case not-weird I suppose) again.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Lorric on October 07, 2012, 07:45:26 am
I think it's a bit weird, because for me it felt like "Since my words alone are not enough, I need to use the friendly Cyrvan everyone likes to bring my point across".

I'm all for giving you the chance to show how you really are, but as I already said, I do not think this is the appropriate place to do so.
It's easy to say "I'm all over it now" or "I never really was like that" in a sterile enviroment. That's why people will stay suspicious.

But once you proven your point in the face of temptation (so to say), people will take you serious (or in this case not-weird I suppose) again.

No. I'd like to think people would give me more credit than to think I'd think because Crystal "said it" that it would go over better. It could have been anyone in that picture, but that was the only one suitable.

Well, if you can do that, then I guess that's okay. I would hope people can remember any interactions I've had with them that don't have something to do with Yaiceca, because that's the real me.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Rodo on October 07, 2012, 08:15:18 am
Lorric, I think I have the perfect solution for you, right here.

Just drop the hole thing, forget this issue with you being weird and all that ever happened and move on.
I feel you are trying to justify yourself, this won't help because in the midst of it you are just prolonging a subject everyone else is willing to let go.

So just drop it, and forget about setting the moods in the forums.
People around here will only respond positively to small stimuli, not overreacted extremist reactions.. so a little joke every now and then will not hurt, and that's where your job should finish.

Take it from a guy who had it's own problems :p
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Lorric on October 07, 2012, 08:19:27 am
Lorric, I think I have the perfect solution for you, right here.

Just drop the hole thing, forget this issue with you being weird and all that ever happened and move on.
I feel you are trying to justify yourself, this won't help because in the midst of it you are just prolonging a subject everyone else is willing to let go.

So just drop it, and forget about setting the moods in the forums.
People around here will only respond positively to small stimuli, not overreacted extremist reactions.. so a little joke every now and then will not hurt, and that's where your job should finish.

Take it from a guy who had it's own problems :p

Perhaps. In fact that is exactly what I am going to do. I am however worried that I've already been labelled as "the creepy one" and people won't let that go, which is why I'm trying to justify myself.

Would you mind telling me what problems you speak of?

Thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Rodo on October 07, 2012, 10:07:46 am
Well I've had sporadic troubles about some of my posts, probably as you say because of bad timing or wrong impression about the thread mood, but nothing to serious as to be labeled like something other than rodo.

You are a special case, but trust me.. just let it go.
No one will bring it up again as long as you don't remember us about it and keep from making extreme derailing of threads again.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: NGTM-1R on October 07, 2012, 06:06:23 pm
Actually, to be honest I'll probably remember Lorric as the guy who drew a Cyrvan in what was apparently bondage gear who'd had unkind and demeaning things scribbled on her for at least several years. I would have regardless of context. I don't much mind somebody waving their freak flag high like that normally, but in the particular context for the character it also had strong overtones of rape. And waving that particular flag ain't doing you favors.

So yes, you've been labelled. It will take you quite some time to get over that label, considering how hard you ultimately had to work/fail-to-think to get it. Probably a couple years at least. But we made Cobra and Sizzler mods eventually too.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Dragon on October 07, 2012, 06:40:21 pm
What he said. I've seen your posts in other threads, and you're basically fine, so if you forget about creepy fantasies and disturbing fanart, the rest of the community would gladly do so as quickly as possible. :) Just post reasonably like it never happened, and in a year or so the only trace would be an occasional joke by one of the regulars.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Rodo on October 07, 2012, 07:35:37 pm
On any level, be glad. At least you are half way there to a custom title  :P
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: SpardaSon21 on October 07, 2012, 07:51:18 pm
Of course, it probably won't be a title he'll enjoy having. :p
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Lorric on October 08, 2012, 08:16:45 am
I don't usually care much about what other people think of me. I walk my own path and if anyone wants to walk the same path with me, that's great, but I'm not going to go walk someone else's path if no one wants to walk mine. I won't harm anyone, I'll just leave them to walk their own path and I'll walk mine. But the fact that people may think of me as some sort of sexual deviant/pervert is honestly genuinely distressing, as nothing could be further from the truth, and I am strongly against rape and other forms of sexual crime and would want nothing to do with a rapist and can honestly say I would never rape someone even if I could get away with it for sure because I just don't work like that.

That picture was intended to be innocent fun. I just slapped the gag on her on a whim thinking of nothing more than to shut her up and that it was funny. I never thought of her sexually or as being tied up, but I suppose when you think about it seriously, she'd have to be tied up, or she'd just take the gag off, but I wasn't thinking that far ahead.

Actually, to be honest I'll probably remember Lorric as the guy who drew a Cyrvan in what was apparently bondage gear who'd had unkind and demeaning things scribbled on her for at least several years. I would have regardless of context. I don't much mind somebody waving their freak flag high like that normally, but in the particular context for the character it also had strong overtones of rape. And waving that particular flag ain't doing you favors.

So yes, you've been labelled. It will take you quite some time to get over that label, considering how hard you ultimately had to work/fail-to-think to get it. Probably a couple years at least. But we made Cobra and Sizzler mods eventually too.

You're just fuelling that with your own fantasy now though. All I did was put out a simple picture which was not intended to be as such. Several years? I haven't been here even one year, and Yaiceca significantly less.

I don't know Cobra and Sizzler, but I can take a guess at what is meant by that.

What he said. I've seen your posts in other threads, and you're basically fine, so if you forget about creepy fantasies and disturbing fanart, the rest of the community would gladly do so as quickly as possible. :) Just post reasonably like it never happened, and in a year or so the only trace would be an occasional joke by one of the regulars.

Yes, we had a pleasant discussion on the Wing Commander Saga board. So I'm glad you're able to vouch for me on that, so thanks. I'll be as glad as anyone else at this point to see the back of it.

On any level, be glad. At least you are half way there to a custom title  :P

You can just put these custom titles in for yourself though at any time, right? I did play around with it at one point, but decided not to put anything in.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Dragon on October 08, 2012, 09:09:01 am
You can just put these custom titles in for yourself though at any time, right? I did play around with it at one point, but decided not to put anything in.
It's a bit different. For example, my custom title is "Must have all teh badges". I didn't invent that. IIRC, Spoon did, or someone else who noticed the ridiculous amount of projects I signed up for (a bad idea in retrospect, but I've had time back then...). It's the one a the top, just below the nickname. My "avatar text" (the one you can set in your profile) is "The sky is the limit.", which I consider a motto of mine (though I've been forced to rethink that attitude a few times by the reality :)). In general, a custom title owner has been around for some time (though there are exceptions) and had done or said something very memorable (in my case, most likely holding the record for most project badges in HLP :)).
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Spoon on October 08, 2012, 09:20:38 am
Quote
For example, my custom title is "Must have all teh badges". I didn't invent that. IIRC, Spoon did, or someone else who noticed the ridiculous amount of projects I signed up for
I had absolutely no hand in this.
A custom title is whatever the admins feel like giving out at some point. The fastest way to get one is to make a fool out of yourself in general discussion.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Lorric on October 08, 2012, 09:30:25 am
You can just put these custom titles in for yourself though at any time, right? I did play around with it at one point, but decided not to put anything in.
It's a bit different. For example, my custom title is "Must have all teh badges". I didn't invent that. IIRC, Spoon did, or someone else who noticed the ridiculous amount of projects I signed up for (a bad idea in retrospect, but I've had time back then...). It's the one a the top, just below the nickname. My "avatar text" (the one you can set in your profile) is "The sky is the limit.", which I consider a motto of mine (though I've been forced to rethink that attitude a few times by the reality :)). In general, a custom title owner has been around for some time (though there are exceptions) and had done or said something very memorable (in my case, most likely holding the record for most project badges in HLP :)).

Ah, I see. Do they ask you for permission, or do you just get slapped with it whether you like it or not? I wouldn't like that.

A custom title is whatever the admins feel like giving out at some point. The fastest way to get one is to make a fool out of yourself in general discussion.

I wonder what you would call me... :)
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Rodo on October 08, 2012, 09:40:29 am
Ah, I see. Do they ask you for permission, or do you just get slapped with it whether you like it or not? I wouldn't like that.

Admins are humans as well and understand. You won't get flamed by them, so chill and just forget about it.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Lorric on October 08, 2012, 09:44:12 am
Ah, I see. Do they ask you for permission, or do you just get slapped with it whether you like it or not? I wouldn't like that.

Admins are humans as well and understand. You won't get flamed by them, so chill and just forget about it.

I expected as much, but I wanted to know for sure.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Dragon on October 08, 2012, 01:49:18 pm
The custom title is almost always jocular, and if you really don't like the title, you can PM the admin in question. Just look at other regulars with custom titles in there, they're pretty funny, especially if you can laugh at yourself (a very important quality to have, BTW).
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: MatthTheGeek on October 08, 2012, 04:37:24 pm
Excepted when not a single admin remember (or admits) giving you the title in question... :/
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: AtomicClucker on October 08, 2012, 05:27:51 pm
Actually, to be honest I'll probably remember Lorric as the guy who drew a Cyrvan in what was apparently bondage gear who'd had unkind and demeaning things scribbled on her for at least several years. I would have regardless of context. I don't much mind somebody waving their freak flag high like that normally, but in the particular context for the character it also had strong overtones of rape. And waving that particular flag ain't doing you favors.

So yes, you've been labelled. It will take you quite some time to get over that label, considering how hard you ultimately had to work/fail-to-think to get it. Probably a couple years at least. But we made Cobra and Sizzler mods eventually too.

Fandom can be a hassle.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Legate Damar on October 16, 2012, 06:07:39 am
It is really too bad that some people have to ruin these things for the rest of us.

I'm sure many people have serious questions to ask the characters, but now we will never get the chance.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Dragon on October 16, 2012, 06:19:57 am
People kind of ran out of questions last time, maybe the thread would get reopened after that new WoD campaign is released.
Title: Re: Lorric learns about what people think of him.
Post by: Lorric on October 16, 2012, 06:29:18 am
It is really too bad that some people have to ruin these things for the rest of us.

I'm sure many people have serious questions to ask the characters, but now we will never get the chance.

It. Wasn't. My. Fault.

I don't know why anyone would think Spoon would allow someone to derail something he was enjoying. He's the mod. He could have gotten rid of me. He just got tired of the thread.