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Title: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Spoon on October 07, 2012, 07:59:48 am
God damn it if we just had a moderator for this section we could clean up that horrid mess of stickies up top to actually useful things.
I think Droid just volunteered!

Seriously though he has a point. Right now the moderators for modding are Herra and Snail. I don't see Herra doing a lot of moderating and Snail is still kinda M.I.A
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Fury on October 07, 2012, 09:55:12 am
Honestly, I think having per-board moderators is kinda pointless in the first place in a community like HL, except for hosted projects. Global moderators would serve much better purpose what with having ability to moderate all public boards. With sufficient number of active global mods, you wouldn't have to worry about a board or two not having enough mods.
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Mongoose on October 07, 2012, 02:18:26 pm
Hell, any of us current global mods would be able to change the stickies.  I don't really go into Modding much, but I'd be happy to float and de-float a few things if someone lets me know what they want up there.
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: General Battuta on October 07, 2012, 02:30:27 pm
Honestly, I think having per-board moderators is kinda pointless in the first place in a community like HL, except for hosted projects. Global moderators would serve much better purpose what with having ability to moderate all public boards. With sufficient number of active global mods, you wouldn't have to worry about a board or two not having enough mods.

Global mods please put some actually funny threads in classics and pin my campaign guide, tia
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Black Wolf on October 07, 2012, 05:21:03 pm
I'm back from work tomorrow, I'll look at the stickies then if nobody else has by then.
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Droid803 on October 07, 2012, 05:46:00 pm
Okay well, this is what I think needs to go to make it more clean:
- Subspace Tunnel (seriously, why was this even stickied in the first place, it's a single asset release, I'd put it in FSU because it's just an upgrade of a retail asset even...)
- Shipbuilding Tutorial : there is the TUTORIALS sticky
- Texturing Tutorial : see above
- PCS2 User to User help : move to FS Tools, because that is where all the rest of the PCS2 stuff is
- GIMP thread, MAX Scripts, Skybox threads : group into RESOURCES category

New Stickies:
+ RELEASES - ie. that "Congregate the works of this board!" thread (by bigchunk1 (?))- asset releases
+ RESOURCES - link stuff like tools, skyboxes, the max scripts should be linked here, as well as the old cockpit one-stop-shop thing etc.

so in the end there should be 3, maybe 4 stickies:
Tutorials
Releases
Resources
<maybe that Efficient Model's From Coder's PoV thread>

The idea is to have categories where we can add useful threads to, instead of sticky-ing a random subset of them.

The Tutorials sticky could use a look through and maybe point out the best ones...though that might be hard to judge.

my $0.02
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Spoon on October 08, 2012, 09:32:16 am
Vote Droid for mod
He seems to be having the right ideas.
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Rodo on October 08, 2012, 12:25:27 pm
Anyone asked him if he wants to do it?, he's got the ideas but maybe he doesn't want to be a moderator.
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Goober5000 on October 08, 2012, 01:14:15 pm
Honestly, I think having per-board moderators is kinda pointless in the first place in a community like HL, except for hosted projects.
The reason for having per-board moderators is to have people whose responsibility it is to keep an eye on their assigned board.  Global moderators can't be everywhere all the time, and in any case due to preference and habit they tend to frequent certain boards more than others.

Forum moderation benefits from level-of-detail methodology just as modelling and AI do.
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Hades on October 08, 2012, 01:35:17 pm
Honestly, I think having per-board moderators is kinda pointless in the first place in a community like HL, except for hosted projects.
The reason for having per-board moderators is to have people whose responsibility it is to keep an eye on their assigned board.  Global moderators can't be everywhere all the time, and in any case due to preference and habit they tend to frequent certain boards more than others.

Forum moderation benefits from level-of-detail methodology just as modelling and AI do.
I'd agree if the board-specific moderators who weren't just project leads for their project forum actually ever did anything. The most I've seen them do would be Nuke, and no one cares about Gen Disc.

Also, Mongoose is apparently a board moderator for FS Gen disc, isn't that a bit redundant since he's a global mod? :P
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: General Battuta on October 08, 2012, 01:42:05 pm
I have no idea why global mods would frequent a particular forum more than others. Click 'show unread posts', read 'em all
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Goober5000 on October 08, 2012, 02:36:38 pm
I'd agree if the board-specific moderators who weren't just project leads for their project forum actually ever did anything.
Then the solution is to propose new or different board-specific moderators, which is presumably why Spoon started the thread.

Does anyone have any suggestions besides Droid803?
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Mongoose on October 08, 2012, 03:44:36 pm
Also, Mongoose is apparently a board moderator for FS Gen disc, isn't that a bit redundant since he's a global mod? :P
It might seem that way, but I was a mod for that folder a year or two before I landed this gig. :p
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: headdie on October 08, 2012, 04:35:20 pm
Personally I would like to see a Help & Bug Killing subforum for people who want help on how to implement FSO features, how to go about achieving stuff and bug fixing it when it goes horribly wrong.
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: mjn.mixael on October 08, 2012, 05:10:17 pm
you mean like the tech support board?
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Hades on October 08, 2012, 05:23:53 pm
Does anyone have any suggestions besides Droid803?
Anyone who reads the forums very often, regardless of posting activity would work, also being established and generally trusted with the job as well.

The problem is, there's not really enough people who fit all of those criteria to have one or two people per 'generic' board. I think packing on a few more global moderators would definitely help, though.
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Goober5000 on October 08, 2012, 09:11:48 pm
I'm asking the people who most regularly frequent the FreeSpace Modding forum to nominate someone, or a bunch of someones.  I think they would be in the best position to evaluate candidates.

We don't need more Global Moderators at this time.  We already have several.
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Mongoose on October 09, 2012, 12:51:03 am
Okay, made some of the changes that Droid suggested.  If someone puts together those Releases and Resources threads, I can sticky them too.
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Scotty on October 09, 2012, 01:19:47 am
What about some of the boards that only have a single specific moderator that hasn't been seen online in ages?

Gaming Discussion immediately comes to mind, what with how Trashman still roams around there, and Inquisitor hasn't been on HLP since late May.
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Droid803 on October 09, 2012, 01:27:07 am
Okay, made some of the changes that Droid suggested.  If someone puts together those Releases and Resources threads, I can sticky them too.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=81355.0
Releases one. Might need to be updated a bit.
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Angelus on October 09, 2012, 05:03:17 am
I'd volunteer.  :nervous:
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Fury on October 09, 2012, 08:59:10 am
I have no idea why global mods would frequent a particular forum more than others. Click 'show unread posts', read 'em all
This. So very much this. I don't ever visit specific boards, I use the "show unread posts since last visit" and pick any topics that look remotely interesting. That is why you name your topics appropriately folks.

Though reading them all is going a little overboard. That is what report to moderator function is for.
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: headdie on October 09, 2012, 09:36:40 am
sometimes its nice for a moderator to pick up on borderline overly negative comments and act to temper things before threads get to the "official action needs to be taken" stage, at which point you are back to needing board dedicated mods just to keep an eye on things, especially in the more active boards.
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Hades on October 09, 2012, 01:17:53 pm
What about some of the boards that only have a single specific moderator that hasn't been seen online in ages?

Gaming Discussion immediately comes to mind, what with how Trashman still roams around there, and Inquisitor hasn't been on HLP since late May.
I'm asking the people who most regularly frequent the FreeSpace Modding forum to nominate someone, or a bunch of someones.  I think they would be in the best position to evaluate candidates.

We don't need more Global Moderators at this time.  We already have several.
This is what I'm talking about, Goober. FreeSpace modding isn't the only forum that needs a moderator. Literally almost every other non-project board has moderators that are either A) inactive, or B) lazy.

And you may not agree, but I think we do need more global mods that do the job of global moderating. I mean, I love people like Flipside and CP to death, but they're hardly active (in the latter's case, MiA) and when they are, don't do that much actual moderating (And apologies to either of you or other global mods that may or may not fall into this criteria, I mean no offense.)
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: General Battuta on October 09, 2012, 01:25:59 pm
I nominate Hades for mod of all the forums.
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: headdie on October 09, 2012, 01:45:15 pm
I nominate Hades for mod of all the forums.
run!!!!
Title: Re: New moderator for FreeSpace Modding
Post by: Goober5000 on October 10, 2012, 01:44:45 am
This is what I'm talking about, Goober. FreeSpace modding isn't the only forum that needs a moderator. Literally almost every other non-project board has moderators that are either A) inactive, or B) lazy.
So are you going to propose names, or are you going to complain?

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And you may not agree, but I think we do need more global mods that do the job of global moderating. I mean, I love people like Flipside and CP to death, but they're hardly active (in the latter's case, MiA) and when they are, don't do that much actual moderating (And apologies to either of you or other global mods that may or may not fall into this criteria, I mean no offense.)
There are a total of eight global moderators (not counting Announcements).  Most of them are active.


EDIT: I just realized why the signal-to-noise ratio in this thread is so low: this is a thread that really should be in the Site Feedback forum, not Site Support.  So I'm going to close this thread, and those of you who have access to Site Feedback are welcome to post there.


EDIT2: Angelus, if you're serious about volunteering, please PM me.