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Off-Topic Discussion => Arts & Talents => Topic started by: Gortef on June 18, 2002, 07:22:51 am

Title: Female head
Post by: Gortef on June 18, 2002, 07:22:51 am: ok since many people have made character renders... I decided to try too. The result is not exactly what I had in mind, but at least something :lol:

done entirely from a scratch... exept the hair which is copied from C4D's basic female model

(http://members.surfeu.fi/gortef/femface.jpg)

Edit: Actually I must say that the hair barely saves the whole thing :p

(I think I'll just stick with pen and paper if I wanna make a character :D )
Title: Female head
Post by: Nico on June 18, 2002, 07:35:52 am: well, it could be worse :)
Title: Female head
Post by: Alikchi on June 18, 2002, 07:39:35 am: Quote
Originally posted by venom2506
well, it could be worse :)
Title: Female head
Post by: wEvil on June 18, 2002, 08:36:28 am: As a charicature the eyes need more work, however its a good start (better than the first one I did!!)

The best way I found to do heads was draw them first.

Do a front view and a side view (make sure these match up), then map them onto a plane.

The best technique for doing a face is edge extrusion, the best I found for a body was either spline/cross section modelling or box modelling, but you MUST HAVE A TEMPLATE to work from, otherwise you'll overcompensate and it'll go horribly wrong!

Then you have to texture the damn thing..which is another kettle of fish entirely :(
Title: Female head
Post by: Nico on June 18, 2002, 08:48:06 am: mmh, I guess it's anime style.
anyway: Wevil, how the hell do you build a face by extruding edges? Everything I've done so far is just extruding the polys out of a cube, then slowly, it becames human ( just like me after an hangover :p )
Mapping might not be that difficul actually, btw.
Title: Female head
Post by: Gortef on June 18, 2002, 11:26:45 am: Quote
Originally posted by venom2506
well, it could be worse :)

thanks for putting it so nicely :D

and yes it should be anime style (I got the idea from your soldier) :p

I believe I might understand what wEvil means... but as I said, pen and paper will do just fine with me :lol:
Title: Female head
Post by: wEvil on June 18, 2002, 03:06:20 pm: Quote
Originally posted by venom2506
mmh, I guess it's anime style.
anyway: Wevil, how the hell do you build a face by extruding edges? Everything I've done so far is just extruding the polys out of a cube, then slowly, it becames human ( just like me after an hangover :p )
Mapping might not be that difficul actually, btw.

Editable mesh.

You select and edge, hold down shift and move it, you basically build the face up out of quads that way...theres a great tutorial on www.3dtotal.com (cept its in French..not that it would bother you!)

I did my characters' head like that (based off my own) , and i'm working on another now.
Title: Female head
Post by: Nico on June 18, 2002, 03:28:57 pm: Ah yeah, of course I know this site ( and I also know there's too many tuts to find the one you're talking about lol ). you sure it's edge extrusion and not face/poly?
Title: Female head
Post by: an0n on June 18, 2002, 03:30:41 pm: The best way to do heads with MAX is to use those green line thingies to make a profile, then rotate in 5 degree incriments gradually changing the shape of the green thingy. Then link 'em all, make sure the normals are okay, change it to a proper mesh, fix the top of the head and then add a little detail using various methods.
Title: Female head
Post by: wEvil on June 18, 2002, 03:42:54 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
The best way to do heads with MAX is to use those green line thingies to make a profile, then rotate in 5 degree incriments gradually changing the shape of the green thingy. Then link 'em all, make sure the normals are okay, change it to a proper mesh, fix the top of the head and then add a little detail using various methods.

You, sir, have a death wish if you want to make a head out of NURBS.

*shivers*
brrrrrr!!!

It's the joan of arc one...can't find the b1tch now...hrrrm..
Title: Female head
Post by: Nico on June 18, 2002, 03:49:34 pm: Quote
Originally posted by wEvil

You, sir, have a death wish if you want to make a head out of NURBS.

*shivers*
brrrrrr!!!

It's the joan of arc one...can't find the b1tch now...hrrrm..

I second that nurb comment :)
oh yeah, the jane of arc one :) I used it to make the ear of my character :)
Title: Female head
Post by: an0n on June 19, 2002, 04:38:44 am: I got quite a good result using the green thingies. Granted, the normals were ****ed beyond belief but once I sorted that it ended up quite good.
Title: Female head
Post by: Stealth on June 23, 2002, 05:56:51 pm: that's going to give me nightmares :(
Title: Female head
Post by: RoachKoach on June 24, 2002, 05:04:55 am: forgive me but she looks like a severely banged up 3 wheeler, what we call auto rickshaws here, and tuctucs in malaysia :D
Title: Female head
Post by: FSW on June 24, 2002, 02:51:56 pm: :eek:

Probably better than anything I can do, but... that thing looks like my mother!
Scary...
Title: Female head
Post by: wEvil on June 24, 2002, 03:14:32 pm: Quote
Originally posted by FSW
that thing looks like my mother!

:shaking: :nervous: :headz:
Title: Female head
Post by: SlipStream on June 24, 2002, 04:03:24 pm: :wtf:

I think I am going to have knightmares too.
Title: Female head
Post by: Gortef on June 25, 2002, 06:57:41 am: :lol::lol:

so I managed to give some people nightmares (and knightmare to one :wtf: )... that's something at least :D

FSW: Really? :nervous:

And no need for apologies... I know too that it's not that good :p
Title: Female head
Post by: Stealth on June 26, 2002, 10:13:36 am: stick with normal renders, and you'll be fine :yes:
Title: Female head
Post by: Gortef on June 26, 2002, 02:11:52 pm: :lol: I will
Title: Female head
Post by: Stryke 9 on June 26, 2002, 06:07:21 pm: [wanders into thread, saying obvious]

Mmm... female head...

[sees giant severed demon-doll visage staring vacuously into space]

[Screams like a little girl, spills coffee all over pants]

[thinks better of it, and spills coffee all over FSW's pants]

Er... eyes... big... and scary...
Title: Female head
Post by: Gortef on June 27, 2002, 09:26:23 am: well at least the image manages to get somekind of reactions out of you :D

hmm...

(http://members.surfeu.fi/gortef/horrorface.jpg)

I don't know why I did that... :doubt: :p
Title: Female head
Post by: Unknown Target on June 27, 2002, 09:29:23 am: I'm not sure whether to scream and run away, get a sledgehammer and bash my monitor in or ask an admin to delete this thread.:D;):p
Title: Female head
Post by: wEvil on June 27, 2002, 10:40:23 am: Quote
Originally posted by Stryke 9
[wanders into thread, saying obvious]

Mmm... female head...

[sees giant severed demon-doll visage staring vacuously into space]

[Screams like a little girl, spills coffee all over pants]

[thinks better of it, and spills coffee all over FSW's pants]

Er... eyes... big... and scary...

What were you an FSW doing sitting next to each other in your underwear?!

:headz: !!!!
Title: Female head
Post by: an0n on June 27, 2002, 10:44:19 am: American terminology, but still we have to wonder if it really was the picture that was making him scream.
Title: Female head
Post by: wEvil on June 27, 2002, 10:50:12 am: Trousers. Not pants. trousers.

Pants are big, blue Y fronts.

I'm going to signle handedly change your american terminology, mainly because everyone i know cracks up when they see it written down.
Title: Female head
Post by: Anaz on June 27, 2002, 11:52:51 am: one...two...three...

[size=72]AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/size]
Title: Female head
Post by: Unknown Target on July 02, 2002, 03:38:01 pm: Now, double take:

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Female head
Post by: Gortef on July 02, 2002, 04:20:31 pm: somehow I feel happy... I dunno why :D

but ok let's try to turn this into something constructive... why don't you post some renders into this topic which appeared to have transformed into a freakshow
Title: Female head
Post by: aldo_14 on July 02, 2002, 04:54:23 pm: Actually, that head reminds me of the ones used in the older Bullfrog / Sensible games, like for theme park (1) and in (I think) Sensible World of Soccer. Which isn;t bad going IMO :)