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Title: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: rocknroll237 on October 30, 2012, 11:40:52 am
I was wondering, is the entire Freespace 2 game free to download?

If it is, could someone tell me where to download it?

PM me.

Thanks,

rocknroll237
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Phantom Hoover on October 30, 2012, 11:42:11 am
It's on sale at GoG for something ridiculously cheap. Although none of that money is going to the people who actually made the game. Just saying.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Luis Dias on October 30, 2012, 11:42:24 am
It isn't. You can go to "Good Old Games" dot com, (GOG for friends), and buy it there for the incredibly expensive number of SIX dollars.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Crybertrance on October 30, 2012, 11:44:06 am
But the game is not free (unless you, uhm....) although its open-source, always wondered why... The FS SCP though is completely free, you can find downloads in the respective threads.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Luis Dias on October 30, 2012, 11:45:38 am
The Game is not Open Source at all. The game's Engine is.

Volition had the rights of the Engine, and when they were bought by THQ, the rights of Freespace did not transfer to them. They remained with Interplay. Without the rights of the game, they decided to Open Source their engine.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Flipside on October 30, 2012, 11:58:17 am
There was a time that we thought FS2 was Abandonware, but when it was put up for sale on GoG, it became apparent it was not. But Luis is 100% right, the game is not Open Source, nor is it Freeware.

If the Source Code had not been released, there is little doubt this site would have gone the way of the Dodo some years ago, in return we strongly suggest you buy the game from GoG, not only does one good turn deserve another, but it also adds another tiny bit of weight to the 'bring back Space Combat Sims' argument ;)
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Luis Dias on October 30, 2012, 12:03:21 pm
Well that argument is already made in Star Citizen. Much louder.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Phantom Hoover on October 30, 2012, 12:05:25 pm
The people who put FS2 up for sale on GOG had nothing to do with releasing its source code.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Flipside on October 30, 2012, 12:08:52 pm
Every single purchase that is made in the 'Space Combat Sims' genre is going to be sales weight for the genre though, regardless of who owns the rights or who put what up for sale, simple official sales recognition through normal channels will register.

Yes, other games etc are also doing things that will encourage the market in that direction, to greater or lesser degrees than we are, but every little helps.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Phantom Hoover on October 30, 2012, 12:17:34 pm
That is perhaps a poor reason to donate $6 to the people keeping FS3 from being made.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Flipside on October 30, 2012, 12:21:38 pm
You can be certain that Volition and Interplay did not allow the game to be sold out of the kindness of their own hearts, I'm not privy to their legal department, so I cannot say whether the royalties are per-unit or time based, but the length of time it's been on GoG implies a per-unit arrangement, so just because they are not selling the product, do not be so certain they are not profiting from the sales.

As for 'preventing FS3 from being made', I applaud your sense of the dramatic, but it's far, far more than the fact that a third party is distributing the original game that is preventing FS3 from appearing.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Luis Dias on October 30, 2012, 12:23:02 pm
That is perhaps a poor reason to donate $6 to the people keeping FS3 from being made.

This is the excuse you have in your brain while you click in that Pirate Bay link, INNIT? HMMM?

:)
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Phantom Hoover on October 30, 2012, 12:38:46 pm
I used torrentz, actually.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: headdie on October 30, 2012, 12:40:59 pm
abridged version of the relevant history.

Volition entered into a publishing agreement with Interplay for the FS franchise, in the deal elements of the IP were transferred to or always owned by Interplay.

1999 FS2 is published

A couple of years later Volition is bought out by THQ one of interplay's rivals.  because of the legal mess future attempts to publish new games under the FS IP would cause Volition released the Source Code for the FS2 game engine.  Interplay on the other hand still retains it's share in the IP for the franchise thus it is still owned by a private concern.

in summary, the game engine is open source but the rest of the game is still owned by Interplay, so WCS and Diaspora can release at will because the only FS content is the engine itself, anything involving the retail story and related assets is still owned by Interplay.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Flipside on October 30, 2012, 12:54:18 pm
Quote from: Forum Guidelines
Also, HLP will not tolerate the posting of pornography or warez files anywhere on the site. However the discussion of a pornography or warez related topic is still allowed. The difference being that the former contains content or links to said content - the latter does not.

This thread is dangerously close to this line. Any more discussion of illegal downloading sites by name will result in a lock.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Luis Dias on October 30, 2012, 01:06:12 pm
ROFL Pirate Bay is no state secret, and I was merely guessing.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Flipside on October 30, 2012, 01:11:43 pm
Understood, hence the reminder and request to stay within the guidelines rather than simply locking the thread and treating it as a direct rule violation.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Solatar on October 30, 2012, 02:16:54 pm
HLP, as I understand it, has a really good relationship with GoG.  For several years there was NO legal way to acquire FS2, and we're grateful that there is now a cheap way to legally get it that we can point new people to (we used to have to say "go 'acquire' it, but remember our no warez rule and don't post where you got it).  They feature the SCP and some of our popular mods here (http://www.gog.com/en/news/freespace_2_open_source_code_project_spotlight), and although they don't mention HLP and it's not the best shout-out ever, it's more than they have to do.  Paying $6 once to download a game that most of us paid $20/30 for when it first came out isn't much to ask, but there are always slightly out of touch people who feel like they are getting unforgivably ripped off and/or victimized by the corporate machine if they pay a single cent for something on the internet.

I mean, if they were charging $60 for it, I might have a different opinion  :p



Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Klaustrophobia on October 30, 2012, 02:30:36 pm
there was always Ebay.  that's now i got it.  at the low, low price of $80 (i was young thought the sim of the year edition came with MEANINGFUL extra content)
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: mjn.mixael on October 30, 2012, 02:38:21 pm
Memories, Memories... I was given FS1 as a birthday or christmas gift when I was a kid. Loved it. I played it over and over and over. I remember when I was just before high school I was browsing a video game store in a mall. I happened to look at the wall of PC games (which I didn't care about at the time.. I was into consoles) and noticed this box that said FreeSpace 2.

 :eek2:

WAT.

There's a FreeSpace 2?! O.M.G.  :eek:

Bought it (like $15). Played it. Loved it. Went to college, forgot about it. Started job. Remembered FS thanks to nephews. Reinstalled it. Played it. Loved it. Posted. (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=68084.msg1344294#msg1344294)
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Mongoose on October 30, 2012, 03:13:45 pm
Hell, I paid $50 for FS2 back when Interplay re-released it as their 20th anniversary edition, but I considered it money well-spent.  Compared to that, $6 is peanuts. :p
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: niffiwan on October 30, 2012, 06:52:41 pm
I'm pretty sure I paid approx 90AUD for Freespace2 when it was initially released.  6USD from GOG is a complete bargain! :)
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Veers on October 30, 2012, 07:30:21 pm
I went and bought a original retail box of FS2 from ebay, shipped it from the UK. Arrived to me completely sealed in original packaging. Which was about 10 years later...

And being the young idiot I was, I opened it, installed it. And have never touched the disks since....
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Scourge of Ages on October 30, 2012, 08:27:02 pm
I bought a copy of both through GoG just so I could install it from anywhere without needing to remember to bring the disks.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: karajorma on October 30, 2012, 08:59:47 pm
If you're very quick, you can pay $34.99 for Freespace 2 and get another 31 Interplay games completely free. You've got about a day (http://www.gog.com/interplay).
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: rocknroll237 on October 31, 2012, 07:16:12 am
Awesome offer on gog, but not for me. I don't think I'd get round to playing all those games, not to mention the amount of custom stuff/patches I'd have to download to get the games running nicely.

Thanks for the replies on this thread by the way.  :pimp:
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: rhettro on October 31, 2012, 11:58:30 am
Fortunately for me I ran across the Freespace 2 Game of the Year addition on the discount rack over a decade ago. Best $15 I ever spent.
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: chief1983 on October 31, 2012, 11:41:35 pm
Hell, I bought a copy of the GOG version just to be able to compare it to all the other versions I already had, and find out how its installer worked :P
Title: Re: Freespace 2 download query.
Post by: Mongoose on November 01, 2012, 12:27:04 am
I bought GOG copies of the Descent and FS series during one of their Interplay sales.  Never hurts to have a backup digital copy.