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Title: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Scourge of Ages on October 30, 2012, 03:18:15 pm
Will be released in 2015.

Quote from: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/30/disney-lucas-idUSL3E8LU5AC20121030
Oct 30 (Reuters) - Walt Disney Co said it agreed to buy film maker George Lucas's Lucasfilm Ltd for $4.05 billion.

Disney will pay about half in cash and issue about 40 million shares at closing for the acquisition of the film studio known for the iconic "Star Wars" movies.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/263368955618541569
"Star Wars" episode seven will come out in 2015, Disney says
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Rodo on October 30, 2012, 03:22:24 pm
Teenager Jedi Academy it is then  :p
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Flipside on October 30, 2012, 03:27:31 pm
"You will be issued with live lightsabres, but there will be no cause to use them.... Skywalker! Do you get that, numbnuts?"
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Klaustrophobia on October 30, 2012, 03:32:17 pm
oh god.  disney.  star wars.  DOES NOT COMPUTE.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: MP-Ryan on October 30, 2012, 03:34:51 pm
I just saw this in the news.  Lucas will be a creative consultant.  So there are two ways to look at this:

1.  Any more Star Wars films are a terrible idea.

2.  If they have to make another Star Wars film, at least George Lucas doesn't have final say in the writing decisions.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Klaustrophobia on October 30, 2012, 03:39:45 pm
yeah, why would we want the original creator to continue his series?
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Dark Hunter on October 30, 2012, 03:40:17 pm
what
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Sushi on October 30, 2012, 03:45:01 pm
(http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i54/5/7/21/frabz-THATS-NOT-TRUE-THATS-IMPOSSIBLE-0ad751.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: MP-Ryan on October 30, 2012, 03:50:47 pm
yeah, why would we want the original creator to continue his series?

Have you LISTENED to the dialogue in any of the Star Wars films?  For that matter, did you watch episodes 1 and 2?

Lucas' universe is quite engaging, but Lucas' writing is not - he need a filter between his "creativity" and the audience, or you get a product like Episode 2.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: mjn.mixael on October 30, 2012, 03:54:03 pm
Have you LISTENED to the dialogue in any of the Star Wars films?  For that matter, did you watch episodes 1 and 2?

Lucas' universe is quite engaging, but Lucas' writing is not - he need a filter between his "creativity" and the audience, or you get a product like Episode 2.

For Truth...
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: The E on October 30, 2012, 03:56:34 pm
The worst thing that ever happened to Lucas is acquiring protection from editors (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ProtectionFromEditors)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Klaustrophobia on October 30, 2012, 03:59:06 pm
yes, and i liked them all.  episode I was a little more boring than the others and the kid wasn't a fantastic actor, but they were all enjoyable movies.  looking past the questionable pacing of "slow develop slow develop slow develop LOL I'M DARTH VADER NOW!" III is my favorite of all 6.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: SpardaSon21 on October 30, 2012, 04:08:57 pm
Is there a reason to be interested in this?  I'm not sure Disney is capable of making something as mature as Episodes 4 and 5.  At best we'll get adorable little furry aliens running around at some point and at worst its all child apprentices on Yavin IV.  Unless a timeframe get announced where there's minimal chance of children and cute furry aliens *cough*Thrawn*cough*, I'm just not caring.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Scourge of Ages on October 30, 2012, 04:17:34 pm
Is there a reason to be interested in this?  I'm not sure Disney is capable of making something as mature as Episodes 4 and 5.  At best we'll get adorable little furry aliens running around at some point and at worst its all child apprentices on Yavin IV.  Unless a timeframe get announced where there's minimal chance of children and cute furry aliens *cough*Thrawn*cough*, I'm just not caring.

Technically, since Disney also owns Marvel, they're exactly as responsible for The Avengers as they will be for Episode 7. And considering that the last film Lucasfilm produced was Red Tails, I doubt that there's anywhere to go but up.

EDIT: There was never anything written here. These aren't the droids you're looking for.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: MP-Ryan on October 30, 2012, 04:26:54 pm
I'd also like to point out that Pixar, another entity owned by Disney, was responsible for Toy Story 3, which is only superficially a movie for children.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: mjn.mixael on October 30, 2012, 04:30:46 pm
"I paid to see "The Phantom Menace" four times, so I'm prepared to shoulder my part of the blame for Star Wars 7." - From Twitter.

That guy stomached Jar Jar Binks four times...
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Klaustrophobia on October 30, 2012, 04:37:10 pm
i thought he was funny.  but i was also like... 12 at the time.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: yuezhi on October 30, 2012, 04:39:48 pm
spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam wonderful spam
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: redsniper on October 30, 2012, 04:47:56 pm
Pray to the Sith for a Rogue/Wraith spinoff series.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: deathfun on October 30, 2012, 04:52:24 pm
I'd also like to point out that Pixar, another entity owned by Disney, was responsible for Toy Story 3, which is only superficially a movie for children.

The entire concept for Toy Story 3 (from what I view it as) is it being a movie for the people who grew up with Toy Story 1 and 2, not so much those who were born five years prior to it's creation
Because yeah, it's not particularly happy



I do have a question about all this though
What the **** are they going to do for episode seven...



Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Scourge of Ages on October 30, 2012, 04:57:40 pm
I do have a question about all this though
What the **** are they going to do for episode seven...

New Jedi Order series

 :P
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: SpardaSon21 on October 30, 2012, 05:10:59 pm
No Vong, please.  Personally I'd love a decent (not even good) trilogy about Thrawn's invasion.
Technically, since Disney also owns Marvel, they're exactly as responsible for The Avengers as they will be for Episode 7. And considering that the last film Lucasfilm produced was Red Tails, I doubt that there's anywhere to go but up.

EDIT: There was never anything written here. These aren't the droids you're looking for.
Well, it all depends on what studio does it.  If Disney handles it in-house and slaps the official Disney name and logo of child-friendliness on it, then all hope is lost.  If Marvel gets it (and hopefully Joss Whedon gets involved in a big way) then it will most likely be the movie we've all been waiting for.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: LordMelvin on October 30, 2012, 05:13:20 pm
I... don't know what to say about this topic yet, but I need to say something.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Mongoose on October 30, 2012, 05:16:14 pm
And here...we...go.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Droid803 on October 30, 2012, 05:25:15 pm
Thrawn or nothing, plox.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Nuke on October 30, 2012, 05:39:54 pm
i guess its safe to mention that i never liked starwars that much.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: 0rph3u5 on October 30, 2012, 05:45:10 pm
The Horror...
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Topgun on October 30, 2012, 05:49:59 pm
It can't be worse than the prequels right?

Right?
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: NGTM-1R on October 30, 2012, 06:07:39 pm
Thrawn or nothing, plox.

One can but dream.

It can't be worse than the prequels right?

Right?

There is ALWAYS a way it can be worse.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: sigtau on October 30, 2012, 06:10:32 pm
"Hold me, Ani.  Hold me like you did on Naboo when there was nothing but love."

... Yes, boys, it can be worse.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: LordMelvin on October 30, 2012, 06:21:21 pm
Thrawn or nothing, plox.

Thrawn won't work right - the time for that would've been fifteen years ago, when Hamill, Fisher, and Ford were still young enough to reprise their roles.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Black Wolf on October 30, 2012, 06:22:05 pm
The actors are too old for thrawn, but pretty close to the right age for NJO era stuff. I guess the question is which is preferable - recasting some of the most iconic characters in modern cinema, or skipping the best storyline if the expanded universe.  Both will cause fan rage, but personally I could handle a recast Han Solo if it meant a Thrawn movie. Also, rogue squadron TV serious plox.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Herra Tohtori on October 30, 2012, 06:25:03 pm
Eeeeeeh, just make them acted by digital actors that look as them younger. Make real actors play the scenes, then replace them with the younger versions of them.

How hard can it be


Or, make-up. They can do some pretty great stuff with make-up.

Or just avoid a situation where you need to do complicated **** to get the old actors look younger than they are. Yeah. :nervous:
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on October 30, 2012, 06:28:00 pm
OOOO MYYY GOOOOOOODDD


edit: PLEASE Pixar, let someone competent direct it. PLEASE. Like, say, David Byrd.

I'd even say Josh Whedon but that one's probably scheduled to do Avengers 2.

If the Pixar guys get some foot in it it's gonna be amazing. AMAZING.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Phantom Hoover on October 30, 2012, 06:51:30 pm
josh whedon
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Sushi on October 30, 2012, 06:53:30 pm
Why would Pixar care about rehashing the Star Wars universe when they can keep making actually original movies? Same for Mr. Whedon (although it's slightly easier to imagine him picking it up, I still don't see it happening).

Put me down in the "no good is likely to come of this" camp.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on October 30, 2012, 06:56:41 pm
If you think that Lasseter isn't having a say in all of this I think you are out of your mind.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Nuke on October 30, 2012, 07:01:12 pm
Eeeeeeh, just make them acted by digital actors that look as them younger. Make real actors play the scenes, then replace them with the younger versions of them.

How hard can it be


Or, make-up. They can do some pretty great stuff with make-up.

Or just avoid a situation where you need to do complicated **** to get the old actors look younger than they are. Yeah. :nervous:

i hope you like a fat mature princess leia (however the **** her name is spelled). i know i will.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Sushi on October 30, 2012, 07:05:31 pm
If you think that Lasseter isn't having a say in all of this I think you are out of your mind.

Care to enlighten me on why it's so obvious that this is the case?
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Topgun on October 30, 2012, 07:10:32 pm
So will George have anything at all to do with this movie or is he retiring or something?
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: NGTM-1R on October 30, 2012, 07:20:24 pm
So will George have anything at all to do with this movie or is he retiring or something?

He's "creative consultant" but that's all, or you could try reading the first page of the thread!
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Veers on October 30, 2012, 07:22:03 pm
He's now a creative consultant or something.. all I know is that he would 'advise' them, and they don't have to listen at all.

Personally, this can go good (good being.. better than prequels)... or very very bad. Disney stands to make a tonne of $$$ with merch for a new generation which would like the newer films regardless of if they are good or not (from our view).

I'd like to see Thrawn, but chances of that happening a next to nil. And my next thought runs to the 501st Legion, if this could mean anything changes for them. But as they (we) do charity work. It would cause quite stir.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Sandwich on October 30, 2012, 08:25:45 pm
I just heard about this myself. I don't shock easily, but I'm pretty sure I'm in shock. :eek2:
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: SpardaSon21 on October 30, 2012, 08:32:04 pm
Nathan Fillion as Han Solo.  I don't see how that role would be any different from say, Malcolm Reynolds. ;)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: deathfun on October 30, 2012, 08:46:55 pm
Nathan Fillion as Han Solo.  I don't see how that role would be any different from say, Malcolm Reynolds. ;)

I actually smiled at this
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Flipside on October 30, 2012, 09:03:21 pm
The thing about Disney is that it is an umbralla corp, as has been mentioned before, it acquired Pixar and it has now acquired Lucasfilm. Personally, I think we are facing a LoTR moment. If the project is handed to someone who genuinely wants to bring the best possible experience to the screen and is willing to tell George Lucas to get off his merchandise-obsessed high-horse, then great things could happen. But, like Lord of the Rings, for all it's critical acclaim, the audience that it was not aimed at really do not understand it.

If Disney target the lowest common denominator, as Lucas did, then it will be crap, if they give the production rights to someone who has a genuine affection for the Universe, something I think Lucas lost between the two sets of movies, then you could end up with a great film, but the risk factor is higher, especially after the dire reception of the prequels.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: BloodEagle on October 30, 2012, 09:24:01 pm
Why are you guys arguing about movies and the expanded universe?  This is about neither.

#1. There's no way that a single (hell, several) movie will ever produce enough profit to justify that price tag.

#2. Disney will likely not go with any existing story in the expanded universe (for a large number of reasons).

This is all about merchandising (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjEdWTk1l9o).

Also, I predict massive changes to MGM Studios (or whatever they're calling it nowadays).
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Sandwich on October 30, 2012, 09:46:00 pm
Nathan Fillion as Han Solo.  I don't see how that role would be any different from say, Malcolm Reynolds. ;)

Actually, saw a movie recently where the star reminded me quite a bit of Han Solo. The movie was Lockout, and the actor was Guy Pearce. He was confident, snarky, rough-n-tumble, and not "clean" in appearance.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Scourge of Ages on October 30, 2012, 10:46:48 pm
#1. There's no way that a single (hell, several) movie will ever produce enough profit to justify that price tag.

This is all about merchandising (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjEdWTk1l9o).

It couldn't be ALL about selling toys. Because as far as I know, the deal includes Skywalker Sound and ILM, which are used in so many huge movies there's a constant cash flow there, plus it'll make production of future Marvel movies cheaper since they're now technically "in-house". Also the games, and any TV shows besides the Clone Wars and that live-action one that's been wafting about.

I'm not denying that merchandising isn't a huge part of it, since it obviously is, but the deal means so many streams of revenue besides that.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Flipside on October 31, 2012, 12:54:39 am
Personally, I'd have been a lot happier if Time Warner had got their hands on Lucasfilm, rather than Disney, I think they could have done wonderful things with the Star Wars Universe, but we will wait any see, Disney know that TW have the market cornered when it comes to 'serious' interpretations of fantasy, and after their disastrous outing with John Carter, they may realise that they need to challenge this or lose a rather large section of the market. That said, after their success with the Avengers, they also have reason to keep on pushing the Popcorn-munching pyrotechnics that requires minimum thought.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: sigtau on October 31, 2012, 02:12:48 am
The Avengers was the ultimate comic book movie, Michael Bay-esque presentation no less.  Might not have been quality cinematography, but for those seeking a rollercoaster ride of a movie (which appeared to be its intention), it satisfied that requirement rather well.

I think I actually have faith in Disney for this.  Thrawn or no Thrawn, I doubt they'd want to step all over a franchise that is very clearly in shambles, especially given the fact that their creative lineup includes the talents of Lasseter and Whedon.  We'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Flipside on October 31, 2012, 02:58:23 am
It's interesting because I was watching an interview with Ewan McGregor in which he stated that he wasn't worried about developing a legacy like his uncle did (who played Wedge, for those who didn't know) because the original films were largely character pieces, whereas the newer films are far more about the Environments and Special Effects. He intended it purely as an observation, but it is quite telling.

The problem is that no-one ever told Lucas to take his hand out of the candy jar and you ended up with the Cinematic version of feature-creep.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on October 31, 2012, 04:58:43 am
Why are you guys arguing about movies and the expanded universe?  This is about neither.

#1. There's no way that a single (hell, several) movie will ever produce enough profit to justify that price tag.

Do you realise that Batman "Dark Knight" alone grossed 1 billion dollars?

The Avengers grossed 1.5 billion dollars.

Do you realise they intend to milk this universe to infinity?

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#2. Disney will likely not go with any existing story in the expanded universe (for a large number of reasons).

They'll do everything they can.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on October 31, 2012, 05:16:36 am
The Avengers was the ultimate comic book movie, Michael Bay-esque presentation no less.  Might not have been quality cinematography, but for those seeking a rollercoaster ride of a movie (which appeared to be its intention), it satisfied that requirement rather well.

Avengers was a popcorn movie, but to say it was "Michael Bay-esque" is ridiculous. Please stop that.

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I think I actually have faith in Disney for this.  Thrawn or no Thrawn, I doubt they'd want to step all over a franchise that is very clearly in shambles, especially given the fact that their creative lineup includes the talents of Lasseter and Whedon.  We'll just have to wait and see.

Right on.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Mefustae on October 31, 2012, 05:18:57 am
Whether this turns out good or bad, I can guarantee you this: 95% of you will be there, in the cinema, hearing those iconic trumpet blasts.

The way I see it, we have good reason to hope. Lucas was the single greatest problem with Star Wars, and with him out of the way and competent staff taking his place, we could really see something magical. The production will probably be more like Disney's support of Marvel for Avengers, rather than something in-house. The main danger here is that they try to make it all about the kids and the toys the kids will want. But hell, we lived that with Phantom Menace, so hopefully if we get burned again it won't sting quite as much. Again, the main thing to be happy about here is that Lucas is going to be as far from the ****ing writers room as possible. I swear to christ, the dialogue from EpII makes me want to slit my goddamned wrists just thinking about it. I don't like sand, indeed!

As for bringing back the old guard, that could be a possibility. From what I remember, Ford has said he'd only ever come back to either Indy or Solo if they were prepared to kill the character off. That said, I'm sure if they threw $15 million at him, he'd probably shuffle in and mumble his lines well enough. Carrie Fisher would be a possibility, especially if she had a daily supply of coke in her rider. Mark Hamill, I bet he'd jump at the chance. Holy ****, I can't tell you how excited I'd be to see him come back as an Obi-Wan type mentor figure, and I honestly think he'd be super-psyched to do that himself. Honestly, out of the three primaries, Hamill would probably be the only thing close to a sure thing. Also, having Billy Dee Williams rock that cape again would be boss. He doesn't even need to do anything, just a quick cut of Lando being totally pimp as usual. That'd make the movie for me right there.

Granted, this could all turn out to be another John Carter, but the kid in me who never got to see the Holy Trilogy in cinemas... well, I want to hope. They've got my money already.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on October 31, 2012, 06:10:10 am
There will be no "iconic trumpet blasts", if by those you mean the 20th century fox ones. That will be awkward indeed.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: newman on October 31, 2012, 07:26:45 am
I'm very much looking forward to the Plinkett review of episode 7. As for episode 7 in itself, not so much. Even if the SW prequels had actually been good, which they haven't, enough is enough. I'd rather see creativity and effort focused into giving birth to a new franchise, as opposed to going the "safe" and boring route, seeking security behind an established (but washed out) franchise.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: esarai on October 31, 2012, 07:30:00 am
The main star wars theme is mostly a trumpet piece--that's why as a kid I couldn't differentiate the Fox logo soundtrack and the actual movie soundtrack.

and in response to the main topic: Hmmm... we will see.  Too many variables to make an accurate prediction of the outcome, but potentials for mind-blowing awesomeness or soul-shattering failure exist in equal quantities.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Veers on October 31, 2012, 08:33:02 am
Why are you guys arguing about movies and the expanded universe?  This is about neither.

#1. There's no way that a single (hell, several) movie will ever produce enough profit to justify that price tag.


Time will tell, but merch had a lot of potential, especially with a new movie. Even if it isnt true to the Originals (or hell, even the Prequels), its a new generation that will flock to it and want to buy stuff from it. But overall, Disney has gotten more out of this than just Star Wars. They'll get the money back easily, just give them a few years.. tops.

But time will tell.., maybe sooner or later. But we'll just have to wait and see if anything gets better.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Sandwich on October 31, 2012, 08:49:11 am
I wonder how well a Battlestar Galactica-esque reboot of Star Wars would be received.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Wobble73 on October 31, 2012, 08:52:15 am
"I have a bad feeling about this!" as quoted from all previous six movies, I wonder if they'll keep that line in the new movies.

I wonder how well a Battlestar Galactica-esque reboot of Star Wars would be received.

Or how about a Star Trek esque reboot!  :p
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on October 31, 2012, 09:07:01 am
Captain Kirk makes a terrible discovery....

.... a black hole that connects to a different galaxy....


.... in a time where the very forces of the universe are changed


.... Now, a terrible empire in the brink of destruction threatens a Federation paradise....


... unless a 25 year old prick intervenes.


... This is...

... STAR TREK WARS



Dat was pretty bad. Reminds me why I'll never be a writer.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: LordMelvin on October 31, 2012, 10:30:23 am
... I wonder if they'll keep that line in the new movies.
...

Of course they will. If there's one thing the soulless grasping maw that is the Mouse has always shown, it's the ability to take IPs and subcontract them to the entity who produces the most entertaining - and therefore profitable - ending film. In the case of their Marvel acquisition, that resulted in Whedon's Avengers. In the case of the Holy Trilogy, we'll have to wait and see precisely what they produce, but they'll certainly be competent enough to hit the basic fanboy buttons. So of course someone will have "a bad feeling" about something. That's just too low a bar to set, much like asking if a Star Trek movie will have a ship called "Enterprise" in it, or if a Tolkien movie will include Elves.


And yes, I know that there's been a Trek film where they didn't fly the Enterprise.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on October 31, 2012, 10:48:11 am
There isn't any ST film where they do not fly the Enterprise.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: The E on October 31, 2012, 10:52:58 am
You haven't seen ST 4 then, I take it.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on October 31, 2012, 11:00:45 am
You haven't seen ST 4 then, I take it.

They fly the enterprise in ST Whales Edition. Check the final minute of the movie (gotcha!) :p
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: newman on October 31, 2012, 11:02:09 am
Seeing the Enterprise at the last minute of the movie isn't quite the same as flying it.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on October 31, 2012, 11:04:20 am
This is getting too much off topic. I was just setting a trap and The_E fell for it... and yes, they *do* fly the Enterprise in the last minute of ST IV, although the majority of the movie is set on the Bounty.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Wobble73 on October 31, 2012, 11:11:42 am
This is getting too much off topic. I was just setting a trap and The_E fell for it... and yes, they *do* fly the Enterprise in the last minute of ST IV, although the majority of the movie is set on the Bounty.


Errrrr.......no! They "fly" (if that is what you want to call it) a Klingon Vessell which I don't think is called the Bounty.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on October 31, 2012, 11:12:44 am
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1189/5107702995_753cf58c18.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Wobble73 on October 31, 2012, 11:18:03 am
Okay so the crew re-named the Bird of Prey, but that wasn't it's original name.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on October 31, 2012, 11:25:42 am
You still arguing? Come on don't be silly.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Nohiki on October 31, 2012, 11:54:18 am
Am i the only one who thinks this is gonna suck not because of disney but because 1 - 6 sucked as well? xD I can live with 4-6, because they were somehting new when they aired, but the rest... meh
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Flipside on October 31, 2012, 01:13:45 pm
Apparently Lucas will remain on as 'creative consultant', which is kind of like having Pol Pot in charge of human resources, so my expectations are dropping.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on October 31, 2012, 01:19:25 pm
Any job description that has "consultant" in it actually means "He's gone from this company/project/whatever". It's an euphemism for "out!".
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: The E on October 31, 2012, 02:12:57 pm
This is getting too much off topic. I was just setting a trap and The_E fell for it...

And I'm going to warn you for trolling. See you tomorrow.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Sushi on October 31, 2012, 02:21:27 pm
Another aspect that concerns me: Disney's approach to copyright. Lucas was pretty good about letting fan works thrive. Disney is notorious for the opposite.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Flipside on October 31, 2012, 02:25:34 pm
Another aspect that concerns me: Disney's approach to copyright. Lucas was pretty good about letting fan works thrive. Disney is notorious for the opposite.

This is a good point, Disney are notorious for shutting down derivative works, and this could put a lot of Mods/Fansites and Amateur movie-makers in a very difficult situation if they go their usual 'bull in a Chinashop' approach. Though why a company like Disney would choose such a cannibalistic path has always confused me quite a bit.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: deathfun on October 31, 2012, 03:52:32 pm
Another aspect that concerns me: Disney's approach to copyright. Lucas was pretty good about letting fan works thrive. Disney is notorious for the opposite.

This is a good point, Disney are notorious for shutting down derivative works, and this could put a lot of Mods/Fansites and Amateur movie-makers in a very difficult situation if they go their usual 'bull in a Chinashop' approach. Though why a company like Disney would choose such a cannibalistic path has always confused me quite a bit.

If they touch the Star Wars FreeSpace mod, I'll will assist Nuke in the detonation process of his nuclear arsenal
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: FlamingCobra on October 31, 2012, 06:53:16 pm
Another aspect that concerns me: Disney's approach to copyright. Lucas was pretty good about letting fan works thrive. Disney is notorious for the opposite.

This is a good point, Disney are notorious for shutting down derivative works, and this could put a lot of Mods/Fansites and Amateur movie-makers in a very difficult situation if they go their usual 'bull in a Chinashop' approach. Though why a company like Disney would choose such a cannibalistic path has always confused me quite a bit.

If they touch the Star Wars FreeSpace mod, I'll will assist Nuke in the detonation process of his nuclear arsenal
Denial of Service
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Nuke on October 31, 2012, 06:55:24 pm
Okay so the crew re-named the Bird of Prey, but that wasn't it's original name.

hardly not as disturbing as what they did with said bird of prey. i mean seriously it has a perfectly good pair of disruptors and a perfectly good torpedo launcher. they should have nuked the whales, not saved them.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Trivial Psychic on October 31, 2012, 09:19:26 pm
I wonder if they're gonna retain the no-starting-credits thing of the others.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: sigtau on November 01, 2012, 11:21:55 am
http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/01/14855446-report-star-wars-7-wont-be-based-on-the-books

No Thrawn trilogy for you.

Hopefully they'll find a way to integrate that character in, though  :nervous:
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: StarSlayer on November 01, 2012, 01:54:35 pm
Okay so the crew re-named the Bird of Prey, but that wasn't it's original name.

hardly not as disturbing as what they did with said bird of prey. i mean seriously it has a perfectly good pair of disruptors and a perfectly good torpedo launcher. they should have nuked the whales, not saved them.

So went waaay farther back in time and killed all the whales so the probe originators wouldn't have met whales in the first place and sent said probe in the future?
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: BloodEagle on November 01, 2012, 03:43:47 pm
http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/01/14855446-report-star-wars-7-wont-be-based-on-the-books

No Thrawn trilogy for you.

Hopefully they'll find a way to integrate that character in, though  :nervous:

Called it.

I'd be wary if they did try to incorporate other characters (Thrawn, Isard, Jade, etc.) without using the existing materials.  It's more likely than not that they'd get the character wrong, somehow, and even if they didn't it would likely cause a negative reaction in the existing fanbase.

That being said, I really feel like they're going to forsake the IP rights after the first (or perhaps the second) movie.  Rather than try to hang on to the existing (and increasingly jaded) fanbase, they'll try to grab a new, younger audience (like Lucas tried), all the while handing out licenses to produce content like it was candy in a dish (I predict disasters similar to that CD-i series that doesn't exist).

Also, I'm not really sure how the rights work with authors of the expanded universe. Does anyone know?
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: General Battuta on November 01, 2012, 03:58:30 pm
Also, I'm not really sure how the rights work with authors of the expanded universe. Does anyone know?

Zahn says everything belongs to Lucasfilm. Eeeveeeerything
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: BloodEagle on November 01, 2012, 04:35:44 pm
Well, that sucks.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on November 01, 2012, 05:05:27 pm
The only two variables that really matter here are 1) the quality of the writing and 2) the quality of its execution.

If it is good writing and it shows, then I'm 100% fine it doesn't have Thrawn. I'm a bit relieved, actually, since that smug know-it-all bastard is annoying to me.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: yuezhi on November 01, 2012, 06:09:47 pm
then who would you want as a villain?
Vader is Ani again and Palpatine is, u know.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: An4ximandros on November 01, 2012, 06:21:07 pm
Palpatine becomes a ghost and starts possessing people, turns Luke to the darkside, makes a superweapon to destroy the New Republic and is stopped by a gigantic ass pull of a character!

Nah that would make for a way ****ty story.  :doubt: :doubt: :doubt:
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on November 01, 2012, 07:44:19 pm
http://acculturated.com/2012/10/31/george-lucas-just-saved-star-wars-by-firing-george-lucas/
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Flipside on November 01, 2012, 08:16:46 pm
I hope they take things from a wider aspect than 'Yay! The Jedi are back! Let's go fight things!'. It's kind of odd that they are saying they won't follow the books when, if you think about it, there are large aspects of the books that you simply cannot ignore and still retain some kind of logical view on the New Republic. Luke has no idea of the traditions or History of the Force, and whilst I'm sure the Jedi Academy contains some information for him, he is having to learn to go from a gung-ho Farm hand to the head of a powerful group that were, mostly through negligence and over-procrastination, partly responsible for the Emperor gaining power in the first place.

If you add to the mix the fact that Skywalker is, well, Skywalker, the son of one of the symbols of the Empires terror as well as a Force sensitive, there are really very few people with reason to trust him, and he has very little experience in anything that stands before him.

The books tended to reflect that fact, people made mistakes, misjudged things or misinterpreted things, it helped to give the characters some real depth, I far preferred Zahns' self-doubting Leia, trying to do her best but haunted by the ghost of her own parentage, to the far more self-centric film version.

But then, all that said, it'll probably be a circus show with glowing sticks, I hope for more, but don't expect it.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Trivial Psychic on November 01, 2012, 11:59:38 pm
I read over on Dark Horizons (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/25416/hamill-zahn-more-star-wars-news) that Lucas already had plans for doing a 7th movie before he announced this massive deal, and he wanted Mark Hamil and Carrie Fisher to be a part of it, so that suggests an appropriate period of time between ROTJ and SW7. 
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on November 02, 2012, 04:33:00 am
I hope they take things from a wider aspect than 'Yay! The Jedi are back! Let's go fight things!'. It's kind of odd that they are saying they won't follow the books when, if you think about it, there are large aspects of the books that you simply cannot ignore and still retain some kind of logical view on the New Republic. Luke has no idea of the traditions or History of the Force, and whilst I'm sure the Jedi Academy contains some information for him, he is having to learn to go from a gung-ho Farm hand to the head of a powerful group that were, mostly through negligence and over-procrastination, partly responsible for the Emperor gaining power in the first place.

Yeaaaaaahhh I wouldn't mind a complete retcon of that idiocy at all now that you bring that stuff....

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If you add to the mix the fact that Skywalker is, well, Skywalker, the son of one of the symbols of the Empires terror as well as a Force sensitive, there are really very few people with reason to trust him, and he has very little experience in anything that stands before him.

I'd say that the people who can trust him are the ones who he will have to deal with, since with all honesty I don't see his part being an "Emperor mark II" thing. The Thrawn trilogy is adeptly good at portraying this whole heir thing (to Vader), specially considering Leia's part. The fact that these two brothers did play a massive role in the battle of Endor destroying Death Star mark II, killing both the Emperor and Vader, the fact that they were at the leadership of the rebellion and so on, I think puts down every single doubt that people might have regarding their allegiance...

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The books tended to reflect that fact, people made mistakes, misjudged things or misinterpreted things, it helped to give the characters some real depth, I far preferred Zahns' self-doubting Leia, trying to do her best but haunted by the ghost of her own parentage, to the far more self-centric film version.

Tastes, I guess. I think both are perfectly fine, and Leia kicks ass in Emperor.

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But then, all that said, it'll probably be a circus show with glowing sticks, I hope for more, but don't expect it.

Yeah... sigh...
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Dragon on November 02, 2012, 04:46:00 am
It would certainly be interesting to see what they can come up with for SW7. I think the prequels were watchable, mostly thanks to Samuel L. Jackson (Palpatine also was quite awesome later on) and battle scenes, but somewhat inferior in quality to OT. It would be interesting to see what they can do without Lucas' meddling. I also wonder what direction they'll go with regards to CGI. OT was quite subdued (mostly due to technology available at the time) and introducing new, flashier weapons would require some creative justification. I'm looking forward to, out of curiosity if nothing else.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: karajorma on November 02, 2012, 06:19:42 am
I think the prequels were watchable, mostly thanks to Samuel L. Jackson

Oh god no! He was one of the worst things in it!

And I say that as someone who usually loves his stuff.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Flipside on November 02, 2012, 07:12:18 am
The thing is about Samuel L. Jackson, is that whilst I love his character, it has been more or less the same character for the last 8-ish movies. Whether he plays Nick Fury or Mace Windu or anyone else, he is always cast as 'scary, angry black man', because that's the role he does best.

Truth be told, I think Morgan Freeman would have been a better choice. In fact, I could easily see Freeman as Obi-Wan's tutor, he and Alec Guiness are not a million miles apart in temperament ;)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: karajorma on November 02, 2012, 07:39:48 am
You could have thrown a rock into a crowd of the best known black actors and still have hit a better choice for the role.


Well as long as you didn't hit Will Smith. He's about the only person who would have been a worse choice.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on November 02, 2012, 07:41:54 am
That's pretty harsh. I don't think that Samuel L Jackson was the wrong man at the wrong time there. He was just a victim of really bad directing, writing, etc.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: karajorma on November 02, 2012, 07:50:31 am
I think you're dead wrong.

You don't cast Samuel L Jackson for the role of the wise old warrior monk for the same reason you don't cast Dame Judy Dench in the role of femme fatal. :p
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on November 02, 2012, 08:02:48 am
You are still under the assumption that he's a bad actor apart from that particular role he does. I just don't assume that much, and ascribe most of the blame elsewhere.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: karajorma on November 02, 2012, 08:09:33 am
Hahaha, and I suppose I was also calling Judy Dench a bad actress because she can't play the role of a femme fatale? :p

Even a great actor can be miscast.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Dragon on November 02, 2012, 08:14:59 am
The thing is, Mace Windu wasn't acting much like a wise monk. He was acting like a scary, black badass we all know and love. :) Scenes in which he actually acted like a monk are rather unremarkable. On the other hand, he's awesome when he's cutting down droids, fighting Palpatine and generally doing badass stuff.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: karajorma on November 02, 2012, 08:22:08 am
So he's awesome when he's ****ing up being an actual Jedi then? :p
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Nuke on November 02, 2012, 08:30:21 am
I think the prequels were watchable, mostly thanks to Samuel L. Jackson

Oh god no! He was one of the worst things in it!

And I say that as someone who usually loves his stuff.

get these mother ****in' sith off my ****in' cruiser.

honestly i hated snakes on a plane more than i hated the star-wars prequels. jackson is cool though, hes the only one keeping 70s style crime drama alive.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on November 02, 2012, 08:35:16 am
So he's awesome when he's ****ing up being an actual Jedi then? :p

That's not his problem, since the very concept of a wise non-violent peaceful badass Jedi with a fkin light saber that cuts everything has always been the retardest facepalmiish corner of Star Wars ever. I guess all the force (uh) of that contradiction turned flesh and bone into that particular casting.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 02, 2012, 08:49:28 am
The thing is about Samuel L. Jackson, is that whilst I love his character, it has been more or less the same character for the last 8-ish movies.

If that is truly your mind, I recommend 1408.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: newman on November 02, 2012, 08:59:32 am
I don't find much to comment on Jackson's role in the prequels. While I like him as an actor, there's literally nothing I liked about those movies, including the role of Mace Windu which looks to me very much like it was written for the sake of having Samuel L. Jackson in the movie.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Dragon on November 02, 2012, 09:03:24 am
get these mother ****in' sith off my ****in' cruiser.
Pretty much says it all. :) Who cares about meditation, mediation and diplomacy? It's Samuel L. Jackson, I want to see him cut things up with an awesome purple laser sword that can cut anything and reflect other lasers. :) He does this, and it's awesome. It would be even better if Jar-Jar was the one being cut up, but battle droids do just fine.
I don't find much to comment on Jackson's role in the prequels. While I like him as an actor, there's literally nothing I liked about those movies, including the role of Mace Windu which looks to me very much like it was written for the sake of having Samuel L. Jackson in the movie.
Which is a perfectly valid reason to write a role in this kind of movie. Otherwise, there would be no reason to see the prequels. If they managed to write in Chuck Norris, Arnie, Stallone, Lucy Lawless and gave Christopher Lee more screen time, those movies could be a lot better. :) Windu's badassery is one of the few redeeming qualities they posses.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Sandwich on November 02, 2012, 09:44:47 am
It would certainly be interesting to see what they can come up with for SW7. I think the prequels were watchable, mostly thanks to Samuel L. Jackson Natalie Portman

Fixed. :D

Srslytho, Samuel Jackson can be a really good actor - actually most of the prequel actors can be awesome (can't speak for either of the Annie actors). It was the directing that sucked Death Star-sized balls.

Truth be told, I think Morgan Freeman would have been a better choice. In fact, I could easily see Freeman as Obi-Wan's tutor, he and Alec Guiness are not a million miles apart in temperament ;)

You, sir, are a frikkin genius.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on November 02, 2012, 09:47:29 am
I don't see any reason (other than plain masochism) to see the prequels.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: karajorma on November 02, 2012, 09:50:24 am
So that the Red Letter Media review makes sense. :p
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: MP-Ryan on November 02, 2012, 09:51:19 am
Episode III was actually half-decent too.  It's really just episodes 1 and 2 that absolutely stunk.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: StarSlayer on November 02, 2012, 10:01:06 am
I know you're all lauding Samuel L Jackson as being an ass kicker in the films but I don't recall him actually doing all that much in the way of action sequences.  Aside from the giant ADD battle in AotC and the fight with Palpatine what did he do? 

I think the Tartakovsky cartoon episode with the pneumatic piston featured more Mace combat scenes than the entire prequels put together.

I thought III was horribly underwhelming as well, and Vader's transition was handled with all the subtly and finesse as a brick through a window.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Dragon on November 02, 2012, 10:43:46 am
I know you're all lauding Samuel L Jackson as being an ass kicker in the films but I don't recall him actually doing all that much in the way of action sequences.  Aside from the giant ADD battle in AotC and the fight with Palpatine what did he do? 
TBH, not much really. Those were his greatest moments, along with some other battle shots I think. It's still the only reason to see the prequels (well, that, and Palpatine). Windu vs. Palpatine is one of the better scenes in the entire hexalogy. If there's one good moment in the prequels, it's this. Ep.I watches like childerns' movie (and I liked it when I was a kid, so it sort of works as that) and Ep.II would be better if they cut out the plot, leaving battle scenes and Count Dooku.
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I think the Tartakovsky cartoon episode with the pneumatic piston featured more Mace combat scenes than the entire prequels put together.
The cartoon was actually much better than the films. Somewhat unusual, I'd say, but rather good.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on November 02, 2012, 10:52:19 am
Windu vs. Palpatine is one of the better scenes in the entire hexalogy

I am now in cardiac arrest.

No reallly. I mean, just making someone *think* about Palpatine's idiotic face lift while raycasting Windu's light saber, while mr. Asshole Skywalker delivers some of the dumbest lines in the whole prequels (and that takes something) should probably qualify as attempt of brain murder.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: StarSlayer on November 02, 2012, 11:14:12 am
Ep.II would be better if they cut out the plot, leaving battle scenes and Count Dooku.

That pretty much says it all.

Though I'd go further and argue that while the technical quality of the CGI work ILM did was great the content was often overblown trash.  The battle of Courscant or Geonosis where little more then a giant incoherent Baysian cluster ****s.  It had none of the pacing, clarity and personal investment of any of the battles from the original.  Yavin, Hoth and Endor were all far better action sequences to anything in the prequels despite their age.  The prequels pretty much entailed throwing as much **** on a single frame as possible, probably in order to sell more toys. 

Hell I'd argue Ragnar, HoG and the Battle of the Rez from BSG where superior despite having only a fraction of the assets and resources put into the production. 
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: redsniper on November 02, 2012, 11:15:38 am
"Now, give me back my lightsaber."

"How will I know which one is yours?"

"It's the one that says 'bad mother****er' on it."
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: General Battuta on November 02, 2012, 11:18:06 am
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At the far end of the showers, he walked into a situation.

The dressing station was loud with turbine-driven airjet dryers. The two Kubaz and the comedy team, still naked, milled uncertainly in one corner. A large surly-looking human in sun-bleached khakis and a military cap stood facing them, impressive arms folded across his equally impressive chest. He stared down the naked travelers with cold unspecific threat.

A smaller human in identical clothing rummaged through their bags, which were piled behind the large man's legs. The smaller man had a bag of his own, into which he dropped anything small and valuable. Both men had stun batons dangling from belt loops, and blasters secured in snap-flap holsters.

Mace nodded thoughtfully. The situation was clear enough. Based on who he was supposed to be, he should just ignore this. But cover or not, he was still a Jedi.

The big one looked Mace over. Head to toe and back again. His stare had the open insolence that came of being clothed and armed and facing someone who was naked and dripping wet. "Here's another. Smart guy carried his own bag."

The other rose and unlooped his stun baton. "Sure, smart guy. Let's have the bag. Inspection. Come on."

Mace went still. Pro-bi mist condensed to rivulets and trickled down his bare skin. "I can read your mind," he said darkly. "You only have three ideas, and all of them are wrong."

"Huh?"

Mace flipped up a thumb. "You think being armed and ruthless means you can do whatever you want." He folded his thumb and flipped up his forefinger. "You think nobody will stand up to you when they're naked." He folded that one again and flipped up the next. "And you think you're going to look inside my bag."

"Oh, he's a funny one." The smaller man spun his stun baton and stepped toward him. "He's not just smart, he's funny."

The big man moved to his flank. "Yeah, regular comedian."

"The comedians are over there." Mace inclined his head toward the Pho Ph'eahian and his Kitonak partner, naked and shivering in the corner. "See the difference?"

"Yeah?" The big man flexed his big hands. "What are you supposed to be, then?"

"I'm a prophet." Mace lowered his voice as if sharing a secret. "I can see the future..."

"Sure you can." He set his stubble-smeared jaw and showed jagged yellow teeth. "What do you see?"

"You," Mace said. "Bleeding."

His expression might have been a smile if there had been the faintest hint of warmth in his eyes.

The big man suddenly looked less confident.

In this he could perhaps be excused; like all successful predators, he was interested only in victims. Certainly not in opponents. Which was the purpose of his particular racket, after all: members of any sapient species who were culturally accustomed to wearing clothes would feel hesitant, uncertain, and vulnerable when caught naked. Especially humans. Any normal person would stop to put on pants before throwing a punch.

Mace Windu, in contrast, looked like he might know of uncertainly and vulnerability, by reputation, but had never met either of them face-to-face.

[...]

"Do you have a move to make?" Mace said. "I'm in a hurry."

The big man's gaze twitched sideways, and he said "Uh--?" Mace felt a pressure in the Force over his left kidney and heard the sizzle of a triggered stun baton. He spun and caught the wrist of the smaller man with both hands, shoving the baton's sparking corona well clear with a twist that levered his face into the path of Mace's rising foot. The impact made a smack as wet and meaty as the snap of bone. The big man bellowed and lunged and Mace stepped to one side and whipcracked the smaller man's arm to spin his slackening body. Mace caught the small man's head in the palm of one hand and shoved it crisply into the big man's nose.

The two men skidded in a tangle on the slippery, damp floor and went down. The baton spat lightning and it skittered into a corner. The smaller man lay limp. The big man's eyes spurted tears and he sat on the floor, trying with both hands to massage his smashed nose into shape. Blood leaked through his fingers.

Mace stood over him. "Told you."
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Mongoose on November 02, 2012, 12:07:45 pm
**** why wasn't the real Mace like that

As the infamous Plinkett reviews put it, Lucas took an actor who's best-known for playing over-the-top badasses, and put him into a role that does next to jack-**** across three movies.  Seriously...can you think of one time when Samuel L. was able to just flat-out emote as Windu?  It didn't happen.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: General Battuta on November 02, 2012, 01:43:06 pm
haha I just realized that passage contains what may be Star Wars' first middle finger.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: redsniper on November 02, 2012, 02:17:01 pm
At first I thought it was a scene from a movie or some other novel you converted to Star Wars form, but then I googled.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: SpardaSon21 on November 02, 2012, 02:25:56 pm
Yeah, it is hard to believe that's from a prequel novel. :lol:
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: General Battuta on November 02, 2012, 02:29:16 pm
Matt Stover is the best EU writer.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Sushi on November 02, 2012, 04:18:42 pm
Windu vs. Palpatine is one of the better scenes in the entire hexalogy

I am now in cardiac arrest.

No reallly. I mean, just making someone *think* about Palpatine's idiotic face lift while raycasting Windu's light saber, while mr. Asshole Skywalker delivers some of the dumbest lines in the whole prequels (and that takes something) should probably qualify as attempt of brain murder.

TL;DR:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XUSZpQsdv28/Ta-HRl-bJOI/AAAAAAAAAKw/vmWirXZGYg8/s1600/STOP-LIKING-what-i-dont-LIKE.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: bobbtmann on November 02, 2012, 06:59:26 pm
Apparently the money from the sale is going towards improving education. George Lucas has regained my respect.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: CommanderDJ on November 02, 2012, 11:13:53 pm
Whilst this is probably going to get me flamed, I actually liked the prequels.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: mjn.mixael on November 03, 2012, 12:03:27 am
I actually liked parts of the prequels.

Fixed that for you... because surely you didn't like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWg1fMeyoQM).. I mean. DAT WRITING.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Sandwich on November 03, 2012, 12:45:33 pm
Whilst this is probably going to get me flamed, I actually liked the prequels.

Not flamed no... as a matter of fact, I will defend to the utmost your right to be wrong. :D
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: CommanderDJ on November 03, 2012, 01:02:30 pm
I actually liked parts of the prequels.

Fixed that for you...

If you want to get technical, every movie has better and worse scenes. You could "fix" that statement for every movie ever made, because we all like parts of every movie and dislike others.


because surely you didn't like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWg1fMeyoQM).. I mean. DAT WRITING.

Which part of that 14-minute clip were you referring to? If it's the romance scenes, they're fairly corny, true, but I don't see what's so abhorrent about them. I guess it's all a matter of taste, I was just putting my opinion forward.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Scourge of Ages on November 03, 2012, 01:42:59 pm
"I don't like sand. It's coarse, and rough, and irritating. And it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here, everything is soft and smooth." *creepily rubs Padme's arm*
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: deathfun on November 03, 2012, 02:24:53 pm
"I don't like sand. It's coarse, and rough, and irritating. And it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here, everything is soft and smooth." *creepily rubs Padme's arm*

I've used this pickup line before
Note to self and others: Don't add rubbing arm part
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Dragon on November 03, 2012, 02:28:01 pm
I actually liked parts of the prequels.

Fixed that for you...

If you want to get technical, every movie has better and worse scenes. You could "fix" that statement for every movie ever made, because we all like parts of every movie and dislike others.
Well, there are really great movies which contain no bad/dull scenes. Very few, but they do exist. I don't think any of them is very recent though, today's movies are mostly either drivel or complete abstraction.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 03, 2012, 05:24:23 pm
Which part of that 14-minute clip were you referring to? If it's the romance scenes, they're fairly corny, true, but I don't see what's so abhorrent about them. I guess it's all a matter of taste, I was just putting my opinion forward.

You can be briefly sucked in by the trappings of the genre, playing along rather like if you were watching an episode of CSI, but suddenly you realize the CSI episode is set on the Poseidon Adventure and as they carefully process the crime scene with the water up to their waists and rising (or in this case the utterly bizarre interactions of Padme and Anakin), you realize that this isn't CSI but some new form of absolute madness. Why?

The romance scenes in the prequels are like the "this is how to witness to people" scenes in evangelical movies; those heavily-scripted, responding to inept-argument perfectly for allowing further inept-argument to succeed as well until they break down and accept they are sinful and need saving. No such conversation has ever taken place in reality, though, because real people don't obey the script these come from, and no real person has ever been convinced by a stranger that they are sinful and need saving with mere verbal argumentation. (They'd exit the conversation long before you managed it even if you made progress.)

The result is inhuman, anti-human even. Half the scene is merely bad and scripted and inept. That's never fun, but it's pedestrian badness. The other half, however, responds to the first in a fashion that immediately renders the first's badness moot because it's moved to a whole other plane. Real people will not and can not respond in the fashion portrayed and thus you are instantly aware that you are watching a work of fiction and these are not real people. With your suspension of disbelief ****ed over, gg no re writer, not buying this as a story.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Dragon on November 03, 2012, 06:28:03 pm
I never paid attention to the romantic subplot in the prequels. OT barely had any romance screentime wise. It was always in the background, developing during action scenes. Prequels had long, drawn out scenes between Padme and Anakin, which weren't very interesting and sometimes felt like padding.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: General Battuta on November 03, 2012, 06:38:09 pm
I never paid attention to the romantic subplot in the prequels. OT barely had any romance screentime wise. It was always in the background, developing during action scenes. Prequels had long, drawn out scenes between Padme and Anakin, which weren't very interesting and sometimes felt like padding.

OT had a lot of romance right up front on camera, it was just handled well.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: karajorma on November 03, 2012, 11:48:09 pm
Indeed, Leia obviously falls in love with Han over the course of the movies in a way that is easy to believe. You can fully see how someone who at first considers Han to be far below her station can fall for someone like him.

The prequels tried to copy this (as they tried to copy almost everything else) and failed miserably. It's almost inexplicable why Padme would fall for Anakin.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Beskargam on November 04, 2012, 12:02:31 am
the him meeting her when he is 8 and she 16 or so is really weird as well. also idc bout grammar. re-watched episode IV with friends tonight, twas great. Thoough the characters are really really shallow. and it is inexplicable that luke isn't sad by the loss of his aunt and uncle or ben. at most ben gets a few mentions, "I miss him", which is odd cause he only knew ben for a few days. and no mention of his aunt and uncle is made.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Flipside on November 04, 2012, 01:31:14 am
I loved the scene in the RedLetterMedia review, where Anakin is boasting about how powerful he is and how everyone is just jealous to the tune of various warning klaxons ;)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on November 04, 2012, 08:23:37 am
It was hard to top Leia's flirting with Solo throughout Empire. But damn, did they ever screwed up in the prequels. I mean DAMN.

edit: by "top" I mean that in Empire it was damn good romance cinema. Damn good. Still works today as well as it did then. The lines "You like me because I'm a scoundrel. There aren't enough scoundrels in your life."," I happen to like nice men.", "I'm a nice man." are still gold today.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: sigtau on November 04, 2012, 08:07:48 pm
The only thing I didn't find cheesy in the romance scenes in Episode II (believe it or not) was when Anakin would use the Force to levitate things for the sheer hell of it.

Mainly because it distracted me from the wooden acting and terrible dialogue. :nervous:
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Black_Yoshi1230 on November 05, 2012, 12:32:34 am
Now, I feel like someone should walk up on me, do the Jedi Mind Trick, and say "don't watch Episode 7."

And oh wow, Jedi is an official word on my computer's dictionary. Yay.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: karajorma on November 05, 2012, 01:00:11 am
You realise that you're asking that person to assume you're weak-minded. :p


Unless you're saying that a warning about Ep 7 would carry more weight from an actual Jedi.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: deathfun on November 05, 2012, 02:24:47 am
You realise that you're asking that person to assume you're weak-minded. :p


Unless you're saying that a warning about Ep 7 would carry more weight from an actual Jedi.

Dressing up as a Jedi and walking around town looking like a crazy fool telling people not to watch Episode 7...

Honestly, I'd do it because that **** would be funny as all hell
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Sandwich on November 05, 2012, 06:09:53 am
"This is not the Episode you're looking for. Move along."
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: StarSlayer on November 05, 2012, 08:09:59 am
Little Mermaid in Leia's Slave costume...



That is all
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on November 05, 2012, 08:37:42 am
(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/10/30/z_rh7vFOGkqaPtOGEV06Rw2.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: sigtau on November 09, 2012, 08:40:04 pm
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Michael-Arndt-Confirmed-Write-Star-Wars-Episode-VII-34033.html

Michael Arndt, the writer for Toy Story 3 and Little Miss Sunshine (both with glowingly positive reviews virtually across the board), will be writing the screenplay for this movie.

I'm happy about this, but surely there will be angry fans out there somewhere.  LET THE *****ING BEGIN :doubt:
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Klaustrophobia on November 09, 2012, 08:53:06 pm
little miss sunshine was ****ing awful. 
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Scourge of Ages on November 09, 2012, 09:38:57 pm
Eeeeeh, I'd like to see a few more credits to his name, especially more science fiction scripts. But who knows, could easily still be great and new.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: karajorma on November 09, 2012, 10:12:54 pm
I'm happy about this, but surely there will be angry fans out there somewhere.  LET THE *****ING BEGIN :doubt:

little miss sunshine was ****ing awful. 

Well that didn't take long at all. :p
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Klaustrophobia on November 09, 2012, 10:24:09 pm
but it wasn't because i'm a star wars fanboy lamenting the destruction of the franchise (shouldn't they all not care anyway considering the prequel rage?).  I just wanted to point out that Little Miss Sunshine is not a credit to be proud of. 
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: sigtau on November 09, 2012, 10:50:15 pm
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1483013/

He's got a sci-fi credit... that hasn't been released yet, but is slated for 2013.

If this movie sucks, then we will know ahead of time.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: deathfun on November 10, 2012, 03:22:35 am
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1483013/

He's got a sci-fi credit... that hasn't been released yet, but is slated for 2013.

If this movie sucks, then we will know ahead of time.

Morgan Freeman is in it
An impossibility it is to be bad
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 10, 2012, 03:49:10 am
Actually, does this mean they own Lucasarts too?

Because if so you'd better run out to an abandonware site and get Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe, Battle of Britain, and Battlehawks 1942 while you still can.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: An4ximandros on November 10, 2012, 09:53:41 am
LucasArts is a subsidiary of LucasFilms... so yes, they have them too.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Klaustrophobia on November 10, 2012, 12:13:41 pm
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1483013/

He's got a sci-fi credit... that hasn't been released yet, but is slated for 2013.

If this movie sucks, then we will know ahead of time.

Morgan Freeman is in it
An impossibility it is to be bad

conversely, Tom Cruise in it.  Impossible to be good.  Which force will dominate?
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Dragon on November 10, 2012, 02:43:08 pm
Depending on who gets more screentime, of course.  :)
Back OT: A related AFBlues comic: http://farvatoons.com/?p=149
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: deathfun on November 10, 2012, 03:30:36 pm
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1483013/

He's got a sci-fi credit... that hasn't been released yet, but is slated for 2013.

If this movie sucks, then we will know ahead of time.

Morgan Freeman is in it
An impossibility it is to be bad

conversely, Tom Cruise in it.  Impossible to be good.  Which force will dominate?

Morgan Freeman's side. They have Jamie Lannister as well as a Bond Girl
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Phantom Hoover on November 10, 2012, 04:10:09 pm
I think you mean Jaime Lannister. I was confused too, when I read the books I pronounced it the same as Jaime Reyes in Deus Ex.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Mongoose on November 10, 2012, 04:37:02 pm
conversely, Tom Cruise in it.  Impossible to be good.  Which force will dominate?
Hey, Tom Cruise was in Tropic Thunder, and that movie was terrific.  Hell, he was probably the best role in it.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Klaustrophobia on November 10, 2012, 05:55:17 pm
...ok.  fair enough.  but i'll defend my point by saying that wasn't normal tom cruise.  i didn't even know it was him until the credits.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: karajorma on November 10, 2012, 07:28:38 pm
They have Jamie Lannister as well as a Bond Girl

I know that Nikolaj Coster-Waldau has long hair in Game of Thrones, but I still think he'd make a bad Bond Girl. :p
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: deathfun on November 11, 2012, 03:26:01 am
They have Jamie Lannister as well as a Bond Girl

I know that Nikolaj Coster-Waldau has long hair in Game of Thrones, but I still think he'd make a bad Bond Girl. :p

xD

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY SENTENCE STRUCTURE DAMMIT
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: karajorma on November 11, 2012, 04:14:37 am
Nope, but I'll have to remember it for when I'm teaching class as a good example of an ambiguous sentence. :)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Herra Tohtori on November 11, 2012, 11:55:54 am
BBC: Star Wars job goes to Toy Story 3 writer (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20288810)

Quote
Hollywood scribe Michael Arndt will write the next instalment in the Star Wars series, Lucasfilms has confirmed.

...

According to the Hollywod Reporter, the latest Star Wars story will focus on a new generation of heroes.

However, there could be appearances by actors Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher in older incarnations of their characters - Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia - from the original Star Wars trilogy.

Harrison Ford, who played space smuggler Han Solo, is also reported to be interested in reprising his role.

New Jedi Order?
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 11, 2012, 02:00:32 pm
****

I don't want Vong. Let's go with the complete violation of the EU now please?
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: deathfun on November 11, 2012, 04:53:53 pm
Nope, but I'll have to remember it for when I'm teaching class as a good example of an ambiguous sentence. :)

:P

Now I can't unsee it. Everytime I read it, I keep thinking of him as a Bond Girl
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Mr. Vega on November 11, 2012, 09:09:57 pm
****

I don't want Vong. Let's go with the complete violation of the EU now please?
Sure, as long as it's after Vision of the Future. You think there's any way in hell this is topping the Zahn/Stackpole/Allston books?
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 12, 2012, 04:02:47 am
Sure, as long as it's after Vision of the Future. You think there's any way in hell this is topping the Zahn/Stackpole/Allston books?

The actress who has to play Mara Jade will be the most divisive thing in the fandom since, well, Mara Jade. I don't really look forward to that, though I agree with you in principle.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on November 12, 2012, 05:24:47 pm
They deny that the films will be based on the books, so no Mara Jade fandom shenanigan for you.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: FlamingCobra on November 12, 2012, 11:44:07 pm
I'll make my own star wars movie! With Pazaak and Twi'lek dancers!
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Scotty on November 12, 2012, 11:49:15 pm
Thank you, Bender.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 13, 2012, 07:08:21 am
I'll make my own star wars movie! With Pazaak and Twi'lek dancers!

At least one of those things is going to be in the movies anyways, and you know it.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on November 13, 2012, 07:33:11 am
Gross.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 13, 2012, 07:52:57 am
I know, I hate Pazaak too.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: MR_T3D on November 13, 2012, 01:56:44 pm
They deny that the films will be based on the books, so no Mara Jade fandom shenanigan for you.
I heard that the jedi knight game trilogy might make a base for it, because KK's story parallels luke's thematically.

just tweak some details and get R2 and threepio in as the perspective like all the other films, and I could see it working out.


However I heard a rumour that they were resurrecting vader,  but thankfully it was a british tabloid claiming "industry insiders" were telling them this, so it's highly unlikely
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Dragon on November 13, 2012, 02:01:45 pm
I don't think they're that stupid. That would be the most epic "jump the shark" moment in the entire universe.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: sigtau on November 24, 2012, 08:21:33 am
Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but ESB predicted the future.

(http://i.imgur.com/D58L5.png)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: redsniper on November 26, 2012, 01:20:29 pm
GOD

MY

OH
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: General Battuta on November 26, 2012, 01:27:12 pm
lol
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Klaustrophobia on November 26, 2012, 03:41:31 pm
i don't get it.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: yuezhi on November 26, 2012, 03:57:04 pm
:blah: i'm doing it wrong
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: An4ximandros on November 26, 2012, 03:59:46 pm
Obviously, E7 will be a remake of Dark Empire. Or worse. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NStBUWjJH4)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on November 26, 2012, 04:15:40 pm
i don't get it.

+1

OH SNAP
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Dark_4ce on November 27, 2012, 05:53:26 am
I don't mind more Star Wars... I've always been a sucker for old things getting a resurgence every now and then... ;)

And besides, Lawrence f***ing Kasdan is scripting one of them! He wrote ESB... And Dreamcatcher (but we wont go there)...
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: starbug on November 27, 2012, 06:20:07 am
I think personally they should set the next Star Wars films in the Old Republic Era, as the i much prefer the lore from the KotOR's/Old Republic games. Its more interesting, Sith wars where there isnt the rule of 2.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Dark_4ce on November 27, 2012, 06:28:33 am
That would be nice. Mind you, if they could do a KotOR cgi movie, like the TOR intro and trailers... Then all would be right in the world again.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: StarSlayer on November 27, 2012, 10:40:25 am
Word on the grape vine is Sir Derek Jacobi really really wants a role in the film.

I'd actually like to see something set in the Great Schism, when the Jedi order and Old Republic are still young.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: swashmebuckle on November 27, 2012, 01:33:21 pm
An aging Han Solo is captured by clones. His son, the Jedi padawan Shia Labeoufi must simultaneously destroy the droid army, win the podracing lightsaber joust, and blow up the secret third Death Star to rescue him. Print money!
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Dark_4ce on November 27, 2012, 04:20:14 pm
Meanwhile, a secret experiment to splice Gungans and Ewoks have created the very first Gremlins. Which Han Solo Junior must also destroy except for his pet one. Cause that one is cool.

Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Black_Yoshi1230 on November 28, 2012, 10:47:15 pm
You guys really remind me... I would be surprised if they sold this for real for the promotionals. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQljzQ_FpUE)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: yuezhi on December 27, 2012, 05:51:17 pm
Quote from: 2013 predictions
Walt disney will be unthawed from his cryogenic sleep to produce star wars episode 7
:lol:

EDIT: it was almost thirty days since the last post :D
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Colonol Dekker on January 03, 2013, 10:21:57 am
(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/international/assets_c/2012/08/EjzIJ-thumb-615x346-96840.gif)
I'm sorry but................ (http://www.somethingawful.com/d/flash-tub/star-wars-jokes.php)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: deathfun on January 03, 2013, 06:21:15 pm
I'm confused
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Wobble73 on January 04, 2013, 06:11:20 am
(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/international/assets_c/2012/08/EjzIJ-thumb-615x346-96840.gif)

I'm sorry but................

Gungan Style???????
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: sigtau on January 07, 2013, 10:23:40 am
(it's a link, click on it (http://rationalwiki.org/w/images/a/a6/Face.gif))
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Colonol Dekker on January 07, 2013, 10:28:32 am
A badly hidden one but you get a cookie for finding it :yes:
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: deathfun on January 07, 2013, 07:47:22 pm
Annnnnnd now I'm not confused
Since there's actually a link to click
Silly Dekker
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Klaustrophobia on January 07, 2013, 10:07:45 pm
i'm still confused.

teh **** did i just watch (half of)?

and i still don't get the picture on the previous page
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Grizzly on January 13, 2013, 06:54:05 am
Quote
and i still don't get the picture on the previous page

There is two small circles placed above a bigger circle in the middle. You have seen this before (http://images.wikia.com/disney/images/9/90/Mickey_Logo.gif).
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Klaustrophobia on January 13, 2013, 03:17:53 pm
i couldn't make myself not see this  :eek:

and i was pretty sure that wasn't it.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Flipside on January 13, 2013, 04:07:56 pm
If I remember my EU correctly, the 'original' death star was actually a proof of concept anyway, the first one was just a power core and laser in a superstructure (built in a shipyard inside the Kessel Black-Hole cluster iirc), the second was a combat-ready field test, and the third one was started as the finished product whilst the second one was being built.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Gloriano on January 13, 2013, 05:00:27 pm
I think Episode 7-9 mighty be good, but it does require a good team of writers who can do an interesting plot line and a director that has a genuine intrest doing a star wars movies because it could go easily wrong and having a freaking jar-jar bings as main villain with gungans.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: newman on January 13, 2013, 05:23:33 pm
The way I see it, at best they won't be horrible. We all know what Star Wars is - it's a cash cow for movie tickets, DVDs, toys, games, t-shirts, baseball caps, mugs, etc. Disney didn't just spend enough money to to establish a small Moon colony because they loved the Star Wars universe and wanted to get creative with it. If they were feeling creative they'd go create something new and not go milk a cow that's really had enough milking. So yea with a decent team of writers, a good director, good concept artists, etc. it might be bearable, which is more than I can say for the prequels. But I very much doubt these can go anywhere above mediocre. Let's hope the movies themselves prove me wrong, though unless I see some very high praise I'm not paying for movie tickets to see them.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Nuke on January 18, 2013, 09:41:43 am
Quote
and i still don't get the picture on the previous page

There is two small circles placed above a bigger circle in the middle. You have seen this before (http://images.wikia.com/disney/images/9/90/Mickey_Logo.gif).

yep, its definitely a drawing of a water molecule.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on January 24, 2013, 04:23:49 pm
There's a new rumour that JJ Abrams is gonna direct this one!
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: redsniper on January 24, 2013, 07:23:13 pm
Yep. (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=99323)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: sigtau on January 24, 2013, 08:03:11 pm
I know a lot of you guys didn't like JJ Trek, but as a guy who only grew up really liking TNG and having little to no exposure to anything prior to that, I thoroughly enjoyed the '09 reboot.

That said, don't **** this up, Abrams.  No pressure!
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: swashmebuckle on January 24, 2013, 08:56:59 pm
The part in the Trek reboot where Kirk flees the ice monster on foot certainly reminded me of the part in Phantom Menace where the sea monsters eat each other.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Sandwich on January 25, 2013, 08:57:34 am
Nothing but joy at this news (JJ Wars)!
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Slasher on January 25, 2013, 10:59:53 pm
I expect cancer-giving levels of lens flare for Death Star-sized explosions and up.  Don't disappoint Abhrams!!!   :mad:
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 26, 2013, 10:28:06 am
I know a lot of you guys didn't like JJ Trek,

Well let's be honest, they're complaining about some deep version of Trek that wasn't something TOS really did in its joyous camp scenery chewing.

Whereas Star Wars was never deep in its movie incarnations.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: newman on January 26, 2013, 03:58:53 pm
I'd say I'm not a fan of Abrams, but I loved Fringe to bits so he's not all bad. I guess a per-episode budget keeps the lens flares in line, but with the new Star Wars I'm predicting audiences won't need 3d glasses, but actual sunglasses to prevent permanent eye damage.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: deathfun on January 26, 2013, 05:17:04 pm
I'd say I'm not a fan of Abrams, but I loved Fringe to bits so he's not all bad. I guess a per-episode budget keeps the lens flares in line, but with the new Star Wars I'm predicting audiences won't need 3d glasses, but actual sunglasses to prevent permanent eye damage.

RIDICULOUS!
YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MUCH LENS FLARE! It's directly proportional to the amount of awesome!
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Klaustrophobia on January 26, 2013, 07:20:42 pm
lens flare is second only to film grain for the most annoying effect ever.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Mongoose on January 26, 2013, 07:32:22 pm
Film grain, appearing in a film?  Perish the thought!

(Yes I know what you actually meant. :p)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Black Wolf on January 26, 2013, 09:36:41 pm
I don't know about the lens flare stuff. Yes, he's known for it. But he also knows that he's known for it. Moreover, Star Wars (the OT anyway, which I'm sure he's savvy enough to ape more closely than the prequels) is generally darker and grimier than nuTrek, so there're somewhat fewer opportunities for indoor flares. Maybe in some of the space scenes... but still, I'd expect it to be considerably toned down vs. Trek.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Slasher on January 26, 2013, 11:11:58 pm
JJ Binks
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Veers on January 26, 2013, 11:17:37 pm
At least the rumour of him directing is gone now. It's confirmed. I'm happy about that..

Hate rumours..., they get your hopes up....
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on January 27, 2013, 06:56:35 am
JJ Binks
Oh so THAT's what the JJ stands for! :lol:
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: newman on January 27, 2013, 10:06:05 am
Should've given it to Uwe Boll.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Sandwich on January 27, 2013, 02:34:47 pm
At least the rumour of him directing is gone now. It's confirmed. I'm happy about that..

Hate rumours..., they get your hopes up....

Wut?
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Veers on January 27, 2013, 06:13:36 pm
It's confirmed that he is going to direct it. Right?,

And I just threw in that part about me hating rumours.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: sigtau on February 15, 2013, 11:15:01 am
Harrison Ford to Reprise Role as Han Solo (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/61001)

And now for my reaction (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs)
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on February 20, 2013, 06:58:43 am
Will his role be as amazing as his latest Indiana Jones?
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Herra Tohtori on February 20, 2013, 08:58:49 am
Will his role be as amazing as his latest Indiana Jones?

I thought he did a solid job as an actor, the film and script was just full of ham.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: Luis Dias on February 20, 2013, 09:42:47 am
I was talking about the role, not the performance. In indy 4 he ... performed, I guess.
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: karajorma on February 20, 2013, 08:57:28 pm
Will his role be as amazing as his latest Indiana Jones?

I thought he did a solid job as an actor, the film and script was just full of ham.

You do have to wonder if there is a way an actor can ask for his name to be taken off a project. :p
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: BloodEagle on February 20, 2013, 10:22:53 pm
Directors can do it, I don't see why actors can't.  :P
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: karajorma on February 21, 2013, 09:39:14 pm
I know, but I can't think of any occasion I've ever heard of it happening with an actor rather than a director or writer.


Although I can think of some actors who might have wished they had. Hayden Christensen probably does. :p
Title: Re: Star Wars: Episode 7
Post by: sigtau on February 22, 2013, 02:55:40 am
I know, but I can't think of any occasion I've ever heard of it happening with an actor rather than a director or writer.


Although I can think of some actors who might have wished they had. Hayden Christensen probably does. :p

The dude's set for life, though.  Whether or not his character was worth a flip to begin with is an entirely different matter altogether, but the guy's probably rolling in dough right now (and likely will be for the rest of his life).