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Off-Topic Discussion => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: jr2 on November 11, 2012, 04:00:02 pm
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from here (http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/11/10/navy-seals-punished-for-consulting-on-video-game-medal-of-honor-warfighter/): (discuss)
Seven Navy SEALs have been punished for revealing classified information to a video game maker. Senior military officials claim active duty SEALs, including one who was a member of the team that killed Usama bin Laden, violated orders when they consulted on the game ‘Medal of Honor: Warfighter.’
Other former SEALs have expressed dismay over the public reprimand, calling the administration hypocritical. Filmmakers of the upcoming movie “Zero Dark Thirty” reportedly received special access to classified information about the bin Laden raid.
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Now that's one heck of an advertisement. Aside from that, the veteran SEALs are right, this sounds pretty hypocritical after they let the filmmakers have the info. I guess not everybody has a nephew in the US DoD.
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hypocritical or not, it was classified details and they were idiots to talk about it. they knew better.
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Theres a difference in getting permission and just giving out info
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RE: "The administration leaked all kinds of information mere hours after the Usama bin Laden op"
The administration defines what is and is not classified. If the administration decides to divulge information, it is not a leak. Or does this guy just mean they didn't fill out the proper paperwork to make something "declassified"?
Also, what's with the alternate spelling of Osama?
Also also, this is barely related to gaming
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Indeed. If it turns any more political than it already is, I'm bumping it up to GD.
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Also, what's with the alternate spelling of Osama?
That is how the government spells his name in most political cases.
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Arabic name have no standard translation to English anyway. You just use whatever sounds right. That's why there are several ways of spelling Koran in English.
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Maybe their bosses just didn't like the game :p
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There are rules and regulations abound in the military and government. If you want to even skirt the side of those rules you gotta know you're taking a risk. Wondered why they did it though, I hear Warfighter overall isn't really good anyhow.
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They didn't know it beforehand. The money was probably very good.
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Worf Fighter not being that good is probably not due to whatever influence those advisors had (If you ask me, it's more due to a lack of Worf. But that's just me, I guess).
Still, you have got to be extraordinarily stupid to be cooperating with the developers without clearing it first. I mean, these kinds of cooperation have to be approved by the Pentagon normally....
(For the flipside of this issue, see that recent thing about ArmA devs being apprehended for espionage in Greece)
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So, article is vague RE: leak. Do we even know a general category, e.g. "tactical doctrine", "troop deployment", or "weapons specs"?
--> Thought buzzing around my head: what if "I can't tell you what they leaked, because it's classified" really means "they didn't leak anything"?
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who the hell would dream up a scenario that complicated just to reprimand a few SEALS?
the way i heard it was that they WERE authorized by the pentagon as advisers for the game, but overstepped their bounds by divulging specific operational details.
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Oh, the second part of what I said was more of a general commentary than specifically about this case.
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...and despite the fact they consulted, Yahtzee still says the game is absolute crap.
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...and despite the fact they consulted, Yahtzee still says the game is absolute crap.
Nerd3 says mostly the same, in a hilarious fashion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuPISfamUvY
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...and despite the fact they consulted, Yahtzee still says the game is absolute crap.
Nerd3 says mostly the same, in a hilarious fashion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuPISfamUvY
I love that youtube comment
"Farming Simulator 2013 sold better than Warfighter. Doesn't that? tell you how ****ty Warfighter must be?"
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The money must have been freaking good. I very much doubt your average SEAL would've been jumping up and down for an opportunity to consult for MOH.
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And yet worffighter had innacuracies such as missing BUIS, not to mention the big problem than in 2010, the unrealistically short combat ranges, is turned up to 11.
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I just have to say that a Worf Fighter game would be an awesome modern warfare FPS. He'd probably end up angry though that the Federation can't fight as well as these pre-warp primitives. :P
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I just have to say that a Worf Fighter game would be an awesome modern warfare FPS. He'd probably end up angry though that the Federation can't fight as well as these pre-warp primitives. :P
I have a game for you. Elite Force.
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I just have to say that a Worf Fighter game would be an awesome modern warfare FPS. He'd probably end up angry though that the Federation can't fight as well as these pre-warp primitives. :P
I have a game for you. Elite Force.
It is...not without honor.
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Elite Force II has a bat-thing, enjoy watching how crappy Melee FPS combat was until the likes of our savior, Mount & Blade.
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Elite Force II was ****ing awful.
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Elite Force II has a bat-thing, enjoy watching how crappy Melee FPS combat was until the likes of our savior, Mount & Blade.
There's a reason I mentioned the first one only.
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Indeed. If it turns any more political than it already is, I'm bumping it up to GD.
I actually started this as GD, looked at the title, and realized it did have a basis, however slight, in Gaming.