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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: JBX-Phoenix on June 19, 2002, 08:33:19 pm
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..I asked someone here to make an ISO of their FS2 CD 2 for me and put it up for d'ld? Mine got screwed. I don't think this would be illegal seeing as I legally own a copy of FS2. Im reluctant to go to a (bad site name here) site because...well...its illegal. Ive already tried e-mailing :v: , but they told me to e-mail Intercrap, which only has automated responses (tried 3 times).
BTW, please don't delete or close this thread. Also, I'm setting something up for us Freespcae people that might help with some of the "Where can I download this" crap. I'll post a new thread with updates.
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Well, thanks for saying please, but there's no warez talk in the forums..
Then again, if you already have the game, it might be okay. Thunder's discretion.
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My first CD got screwed over, I've learned to live with it. Friend put a big scratch in it and it gives me some stupid error whenever i run the installer.
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But does it install? I don't have the CD anymore and I don't have FS2 installed.
And I wouldn't classify this as warez yet. :doubt:
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Honorable intentions or not unfortunately this would technically be providing warez. As far as I'm aware the only people you could get a legal copy off would be the publishers and even then you'd have to show proof of purchase.
FS1 + 2 are available as a boxed set here (UK + IRELAND) for £9.99 which is very cheap and a lot less hassle than trying to get a replacement disk from the publishers.
I am unable to play Silent Threat since I am unaware of any store that sells it (has it been discontinued?). I just gotta live with it until GalacticEmperor or someone else interested in porting more FS1 missions gets around to it. Alas, unfortunate as that may be I have to make the best of the situation.
Remember by posting info about warez here you literally endanger the site. That's why we need to be stringent. :nod:
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I seem to remember a post back on the VBB asking if a "transfer" (a port) from FS1 to FS2 would be good and one of the :v: guys posted said it wouldn't be legal, infringing "FS1's" copyrights or something. Porting all of the missions, ships, weapons, etc. would also be classified as warez, moreso than this because you are essentially playing exactly what FS1 and Silent Threat is, just with Freespace 2 graphics. All Im doing is asking for a copy of CD2 of a game that I already own two-thirds of.
I didn't want to this bring up before, but it's been filed away in my head for some time. And I was going to bring it up. But then I thought of how much work GE's has put into this project.
Now Im not trying to get HLP (or GE) screwed over, but the FSPort is just as warezy as downloading the full game of FS1 and ST. Im sorry if no one agrees with me, but thats just how it is.
Im NOT going to buy a game I already have two of the three CD's of, don't care what the price.
I know this has turned into a warez debate, it wasn't meant to be. It was just a simple question not meant to bring anything else up.
Please, please don't ban me :sigh:
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I seem to remember a post back on the VBB asking if a "transfer" (a port) from FS1 to FS2 would be good and one of the guys posted said it wouldn't be legal, infringing "FS1's" copyrights or something. Porting all of the missions, ships, weapons, etc. would also be classified as warez, moreso than this because you are essentially playing exactly what FS1 and Silent Threat is, just with Freespace 2 graphics. All Im doing is asking for a copy of CD2 of a game that I already own two-thirds of.
Well, you are copying the weapons and ships from FS1, but look at all the converted FS1 stuff to FS2, besides it wouldnt do any bad now. FSPort was a great thing to bring FS1 graphics to FS2 standard, even if the missions werent perfect. And Silent Threat SUCKED. You could think of it as illegal I guess, but who would actually act upon that now? Its not like the game is new and really popular.
Now Im not trying to get HLP (or GE) screwed over, but the FSPort is just as warezy as downloading the full game of FS1 and ST. Im sorry if no one agrees with me, but thats just how it is.
Like I said, I dont think that Volition or anyone would actually carry out anything. Volition wants us to make the Freespace games like our own little toolbox where we can make mods and ships, etc.
Im NOT going to buy a game I already have two of the three CD's of, don't care what the price.
Agreed.
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I agree... don't buy Freespace 2 again just for the CD... I wouldnt'... besides, you can play the game without it, can't you? (i mean, you do have it installed, right?)
If Volition and Interplay don't answer you, i don't know what to do...
I am sure it's considered illegal, but I mean hell, even burning a CD nowadays is considered illegal, so you know what i mean.
Don't do it until you get permission to though.
I'm sure if you don't get permission that one of us can help you out though :)
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I don't know where I can find another copy of FS2, but I have spotted Fs1 and Silent threat packaged together alot in the double jewel case setup.
Still haven't gotten around to playing ST though, something's screwed up with my cdrom. I think it's actually putting scratches on my cd's even though there's nothing physically contacting the disk. :/
Oh well.
At least you've had the game awhile there. The first time I bought FS2 the installation disk had a tiny tiny scratch on the edge of the disk. A centimeter or less wide. But every time I popped the cd in or tried to run the setup program it'd spit an error out and shut down. Called up every EB affiliate around and finally had to get dad to drive me out of town to get it replaced. (Noone carries it now that I have a copy it seems. :(
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What's your connection 'speed'? *just out of curiosity*
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I ain't too sure about American laws but in the UK, as long as you own the game it's perfectly legal to make one copy. It is however illegal to make it available to dl in any way, shape or form. But having already bought FS, it's (technically) fine for you to buy a new copy, copy the CD's, take the original back for a refund and use the new copies as back-ups of your busted CD's.
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It isn't illegal to backup software you own... so really I don't see why they would have a problem with you getting it again... contact the supplier and ask for it, they might ask you for the cost of producing the CD but... It's just the license for the software that counts.
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Originally posted by Stealth
I agree... don't buy Freespace 2 again just for the CD... I wouldnt'... besides, you can play the game without it, can't you? (i mean, you do have it installed, right?)
No, I don't. :(
Originally posted by Ryx
What's your connection 'speed'? *just out of curiosity*
Cable
100-200kbps average
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Originally posted by TheVirtu
Its not like the game is new and really popular.
This could also apply with me. The game isn't new and really isn't popular (except with us). So again I don't see why.
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Well its still the best Space Combat game available according to all the mags.
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Originally posted by Zeronet
avaliable
:ha:
:ha:
:ha:
:D
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Originally posted by Kellan
:ha:
:ha:
:ha:
:D
Oh, you're SO mean... :D
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Originally posted by Styxx
Oh, you're SO mean... :D
Sorry Styxx, did you mean that to come out (ahaha) so camp?? :D ;)
And I wasn't mocking his spelling, just the fact that he said FS2 was still available. :p
Okay, so it IS still available here...so sue me...
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Originally posted by Kellan
Sorry Styxx, did you mean that to come out (ahaha) so camp?? :D ;)
Yep, I did. Why? You have anything against it? Eh? Answer me!!
:D
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Originally posted by Styxx
Yep, I did. Why? You have anything against it? Eh? Answer me!!
:D
What if i did? Whatcha gonna do? Punk.
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Originally posted by Zeronet
What if i did? Whatcha gonna do? Punk.
And what do you have to do with this? :wtf:
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Originally posted by Styxx
And what do you have to do with this? :wtf:
Yeah, stay outta my fight between me and Gay Styxx. :D
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Originally posted by Kellan
Yeah, stay outta my fight between me and Gay Styxx. :D
Bah, here's for you, brit-boy! :D
(http://www.harbinger.freeservers.com/images/yougay.jpg)
Besides, I'm secure enough not to be offended by that kind of comment... Err... :nervous:
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Originally posted by Styxx
Besides, I'm secure enough not to be offended by that kind of comment... Err... :nervous:
Thats what they all say :p
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O..k.....Um were kind of getting off topic here
um... :wtf:
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Originally posted by Zeronet
Thats what they all say :p
Meh. I had a perfect answer for this, but it would probably get Thunder to close the thread. :D :p
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It deserved a locking as soon as you posted that offencive picture.
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Originally posted by Zeronet
It deserved a locking as soon as you posted that offencive picture.
Were you offended? Remember, parodies and satires are protected by international copyright laws... :D :p
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I wasnt offended, but the person it was aimed at may of been offended as its clearly not the nicest thing to say to someone.
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Originally posted by Zeronet
I wasnt offended, but the person it was aimed at may of been offended as its clearly not the nicest thing to say to someone.
Eh, I'm pretty sure he won't get offended. Did you read the post by him that I had just quoted? :p
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