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Guys is there any player cloaking in Saga, or is that not possible>
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Guys is there any player cloaking in Saga, or is that not possible>
There isn't any in the actual game. I imagine it could be FREDded since they did it with the Strakhas. It looks very complex though looking at what they did in FRED to make it happen. You certainly can't just slap those ships down in a mission and them do that stuff on their own.
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Without FSO's framebuffer cloaking, the best you can do is go the Dimensional eclipse way : switch ship class to a ship that has an animated texture that makes it look like it's undergoing cloaking, then switch to a purely transparent ship. It's a little heavy on the tabling side (need 3 ship copies, one uncloaked, one cloaking and one cloaked) and not necessarily very flexible on the FRED side, but it shouldn't be too hard to set up.
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I think WCS forked long before Valathil implemented cloaking in the FSO engine, it could be faked using ship classes, so long as FSO/WCS:DD has those SEXPs implemented
ninjed by Matth
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Without FSO's framebuffer cloaking, the best you can do is go the Dimensional eclipse way : switch ship class to a ship that has an animated texture that makes it look like it's undergoing cloaking, then switch to a purely transparent ship. It's a little heavy on the tabling side (need 3 ship copies, one uncloaked, one cloaking and one cloaked) and not necessarily very flexible on the FRED side, but it shouldn't be too hard to set up.
I believe this is what the Saga team have done. They have four Strakha ship classes. The Strakha, a cloak Strakha, an invisible Strakha and a decloak Strakha.
The same holds true for Stalker's custom Strakha and Deathfang's custom Vaktoth.
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Aginor is working on player cloaking for his Kilrathi Mod.
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Awesome!!
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I hope I can release my mod in 2012, depends on how much time I have during my winter vacation.
There will be a demo mission where you fly a Strakha.
In WCS the (AI only) Strakhas were done via very complex mission scripting, and I think 4 Strakhas at the same time were the maximum. The effect itself was done like mentioned above, with model switching.
I think there are only few ships that can cloak (you need 4 entries in ships.tbl for each one of them)
- Strakha
- Strakha ace
- Prowler
- Vaktoth ace
My standard mod only includes the Strakha at the moment, but it is possible to change that for future mods.
I did some massive LUA scripting to make modding cloaking easier and to get rid of some errors.
- weapons (switching the model did not transfer weapon energy, missile ammo, some stuff of damage status and so on. Players could perfectly abuse that. Also the Strakha could only use one type of missile. (solved)
- firing while cloaking/decloaking had some... interesting effects. (solved)
- the AI could not be commanded by a player to cloak (solved, the AI wingmen cloak based on their leader's commands, which is pretty cool once you know how to use it.)
- friendlies could always see cloaked ships if you didn't script the cloaking for each one. (solved)
- there was no visual effect so the player could see he was cloaked. I added a gauge and the hud changes color (and back of course).
But one of the most important things for me to do was to make it easier to use. You just need a few small scripts in your mission. The rest is LUA.
There is a small howto what to do so you can cloak yourself and ships, and a demo mission.
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awesome dude. My favorite aspect of WIng COmmander was the cloaking.
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Here's a little something you might like to see. It isn't Saga though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GyZyy4W94w&feature=autoplay&list=UUxW-7zwlLDcTmdpn2sOKEWg&playnext=3
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That's a nice effect.
I prefer the one built into the engine though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n07b6BiWiSA
(Of course, WCS doesn't support it, unless they've synced their engine to trunk recently)
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That's a nice effect.
I prefer the one built into the engine though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n07b6BiWiSA
(Of course, WCS doesn't support it, unless they've synced their engine to trunk recently)
Oh yes, that is very nice. Gorgeous effect.