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Title: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: MP-Ryan on January 08, 2013, 03:35:11 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtyKofFih8Y

If people didn't know what a raving loon Alex Jones is to begin with, all they need to do is listen to about 3.5 minutes of this clip to get the point.

I would have put it in the shooting thread, but this idiot deserves his own for sheer ridicule purposes.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: Suongadon on January 08, 2013, 04:42:28 pm
3 and a half minutes? I barely made it thirty seconds.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 08, 2013, 04:45:04 pm
Kazan Effect.

(Even if you agree with any portion of his policies, you don't want to.)
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: Nuke on January 08, 2013, 04:53:41 pm
lol. this guy makes a couple good points. too bad hes a quack and no one will believe him.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: Lorric on January 08, 2013, 04:56:38 pm
Wow. Literally a comment every second on that video. Never seen that before.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: deathfun on January 08, 2013, 05:02:18 pm
I lost it at 2:15
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: Lorric on January 08, 2013, 05:05:41 pm
I haven't heard of him before. He's a lively one, isn't he.

His crime figures for Britain are garbage though.

I'd like to see him go head to head with Jeremy Kyle, that could be amusing.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: Scourge of Ages on January 08, 2013, 05:19:48 pm
Oh wow, I listened to the whole clip. That was a thing of beauty.

It's people like Jones that actually drive other people into the camp he's trying to attack.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: watsisname on January 08, 2013, 06:13:50 pm
I laughed a bunch, then felt very unfortunate for living in the same country as him.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: Apollo on January 08, 2013, 06:42:04 pm
Suicide mass-murder pills? The New World Order?

I think this guy forgot to take his medication.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: watsisname on January 08, 2013, 06:47:55 pm
I saw his documentary on the Builderburgs.  It features him spending an entire afternoon shouting at a Canadian hotel through a megaphone because he thought world leaders were congregating there to plot evil schemes.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: deathfun on January 08, 2013, 07:15:17 pm
I saw his documentary on the Builderburgs.  It features him spending an entire afternoon shouting at a Canadian hotel through a megaphone because he thought world leaders were congregating there to plot evil schemes.

If I laugh anymore, I might deflate one of my lungs
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: redsniper on January 08, 2013, 07:40:07 pm
He's a character all right...

http://sonsofliberty.ytmnd.com/
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: newman on January 09, 2013, 08:18:01 am
The only mistake the host made is even talking to this guy. You don't engage in a discussion with lunatics, even if they luck out and make a valid point in an extremely lucky rare occasion (and I'm not saying this happened here), it'll be rendered irrelevant as ramblings of an insane person. I did laugh when he proposed he invite him back in a boxing ring and he'll take him. Mr. Jones, I hate to break it to you, but I very much doubt anyone wants to see you without your shirt on. Now listen to your doctor, take your prescribed dosage, and stop self-medicating, it's not doing you any favors :P
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: headdie on January 09, 2013, 08:29:44 am
He's a character all right...

http://sonsofliberty.ytmnd.com/

wtf, I haven seen tiled backgrounds like that for nearly a decade lol.

as for the rant, I think i got about 5 mins in when i watched it on Yahoo news before shutting it off, I mean some people wonder why the world thinks America is full of gun crazed conspiracy theorists.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: karajorma on January 09, 2013, 10:33:16 am
Alex Jones isn't the reason people think America is full of crazies. The 104,000 people who signed a petition trying to trample Pier's Morgan right to the first amendment for daring to anything about the second, is why people think America is full of crazies.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: StarSlayer on January 09, 2013, 11:32:33 am
Alex Jones isn't the reason people think America is full of crazies. The 104,000 people who signed a petition trying to trample Pier's Morgan right to the first amendment for daring to anything about the second, is why people think America is full of crazies.

Yes because 104,000 out of a total population of 311,591,917 as of 2011 census represents an overwhelming majority.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: headdie on January 09, 2013, 12:07:41 pm
Alex Jones isn't the reason people think America is full of crazies. The 104,000 people who signed a petition trying to trample Pier's Morgan right to the first amendment for daring to anything about the second, is why people think America is full of crazies.

Yes because 104,000 out of a total population of 311,591,917 as of 2011 census represents an overwhelming majority.

true but it's the vocal minority that make the impression ;)
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: deathfun on January 09, 2013, 04:59:49 pm
Pareto Principle is at work here
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: karajorma on January 09, 2013, 06:56:00 pm
Yes because 104,000 out of a total population of 311,591,917 as of 2011 census represents an overwhelming majority.

true but it's the vocal minority that make the impression ;)

Exactly. I know that the 104,000 is a tiny number but Alex Jones is obviously certifiable. So it's a pretty large number of people to be following someone so obviously off their head. So it does have the effect of making the average American look a lot crazier than they actually are.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: BlueFlames on January 09, 2013, 06:58:12 pm
It gets sillier in the second part.

"America was born on guns and whiskey."

Incidentally, my state lets you carry in bars, and they're soon to pass a bill that will ban business owners from prohibiting firearms on their property.  Let's see how well that guns-'n-whiskey combination works out in the modern day.

[edit] ...and he finishes by putting on an accent to mock Piers Morgan for having an accent.  Class act. [/edit]
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: deathfun on January 09, 2013, 07:08:19 pm
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Let's see how well that guns-'n-whiskey combination works out in the modern day.

MADS
Mothers Against Drunk Shootings
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: Mongoose on January 09, 2013, 07:42:08 pm
I couldn't make it past the massive Godwin around two minutes in.  My brain decided "WELP THAT'S ENOUGH" and reflexively closed the tab.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: Nuke on January 09, 2013, 09:54:44 pm
leegalize crack!
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: Mikes on January 10, 2013, 06:45:07 am
Alex Jones isn't the reason people think America is full of crazies. The 104,000 people who signed a petition trying to trample Pier's Morgan right to the first amendment for daring to anything about the second, is why people think America is full of crazies.

Yes because 104,000 out of a total population of 311,591,917 as of 2011 census represents an overwhelming majority.

104,000 unconnected individuals in such a population would not even be on the radar.

If organized behind a lunatic and very vocal spokesperson however, 104,000 in any country's population suddenly "appears" scary.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: headdie on January 10, 2013, 12:48:45 pm
Alex Jones isn't the reason people think America is full of crazies. The 104,000 people who signed a petition trying to trample Pier's Morgan right to the first amendment for daring to anything about the second, is why people think America is full of crazies.

Yes because 104,000 out of a total population of 311,591,917 as of 2011 census represents an overwhelming majority.

104,000 unconnected individuals in such a population would not even be on the radar.

If organized behind a lunatic and very vocal spokesperson however, 104,000 in any country's population suddenly "appears" scary.

when these people are the ones on mass media making the biggest fuss then yes

edit.

also you have to ask how many people who have similar views who didn't sign this petition for one reason or another
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: achtung on January 10, 2013, 09:20:27 pm
Oh look! Piers Morgan hand-picking someone crazy he knows he can easily flog to forward an agenda. Totally surprising.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: Scourge of Ages on January 10, 2013, 11:47:22 pm
Oh look! Piers Morgan hand-picking someone crazy he knows he can easily flog to forward an agenda. Totally surprising.
I thought Jones was the one who actually started the petition to get Morgan deported? I'd say they found each other.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: JCDNWarrior on January 11, 2013, 06:31:39 am
This topic is already full of anti-Alex Jones comments so I'll focus on Piers Morgan: The guy acts like a imperialist or redcoat character in a movie,  disrespecting and belittling the USA, it's people and laws. It becomes pretty clear in a much more reasonable and rational interview (no thanks to Piers constantly trying to steer it Tavistock style) here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObNC4bXTDf0) with Ben Shapiro. Calling the US Constitution "your little book" as if referencing it to Mao's little red book is rather unfair but a smart psychological tactic to try to steer people away from the law of the land. Also calling the US people 'citizens' the way he did, sounded off to me, as if referring to serfs or peons, the way he acts and the intonation of his voice.

Btw, some of his history:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3716151.stm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/22/piers-morgan-phone-hacking-claims_n_2003729.html

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"Piers Morgan hit the headlines himself in February 2000 when the Mirror became embroiled in a share dealing scandal - after several staff bought shares tipped in the paper's City Slickers column."
source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3713857.stm

Plenty of reason to actually wanting him deported back to England to face his charges. :P But yes, hardly the person that has a moral high ground or authority or charisma to tell 300+ million people what they can and cannot own or use.

Just wanted to balance things out a little.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: headdie on January 11, 2013, 06:55:04 am
This topic is already full of anti-Alex Jones comments so I'll focus on Piers Morgan: The guy acts like a imperialist or redcoat character in a movie,  disrespecting and belittling the USA, it's people and laws. It becomes pretty clear in a much more reasonable and rational interview (no thanks to Piers constantly trying to steer it Tavistock style) here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObNC4bXTDf0) with Ben Shapiro. Calling the US Constitution "your little book" as if referencing it to Mao's little red book is rather unfair but a smart psychological tactic to try to steer people away from the law of the land. Also calling the US people 'citizens' the way he did, sounded off to me, as if referring to serfs or peons, the way he acts and the intonation of his voice.

Btw, some of his history:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3716151.stm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/22/piers-morgan-phone-hacking-claims_n_2003729.html

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"Piers Morgan hit the headlines himself in February 2000 when the Mirror became embroiled in a share dealing scandal - after several staff bought shares tipped in the paper's City Slickers column."
source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3713857.stm

Plenty of reason to actually wanting him deported back to England to face his charges. :P But yes, hardly the person that has a moral high ground or authority or charisma to tell 300+ million people what they can and cannot own or use.

Just wanted to balance things out a little.

why do you think he had to go to the states to get a serious TV gig?
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: deathfun on January 11, 2013, 01:02:35 pm
That was a serious TV Gig? I thought it was some sort of comedy
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: headdie on January 11, 2013, 02:13:37 pm
That was a serious TV Gig? I thought it was some sort of comedy

serious in that I hate to think how much money he is making and the fact that people presumably watch him without automatically thinking bull****
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: achtung on January 11, 2013, 02:21:08 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJdhAm_oUUs

That's what happens when Piers makes the mistake of picking someone with a little sanity, and capability for self-control, for an interview.

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Honestly Piers, you've kind of been a bully on this issue because what you do ... what you tend to do, is demonize people who differ from you politically from you by standing on the graves of the children of Sandy Hook.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: Polpolion on January 11, 2013, 02:57:32 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJdhAm_oUUs

That's what happens when Piers makes the mistake of picking someone with a little sanity, and capability for self-control, for an interview.

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Honestly Piers, you've kind of been a bully on this issue because what you do ... what you tend to do, is demonize people who differ from you politically from you by standing on the graves of the children of Sandy Hook.

Well I'm glad someone said that. The reasoning behind the deportation of Piers Morgan is that since he's not a US citizen he has no rights granted to him by the first amendment, so censoring him on those grounds would be perfectly constitutional. Personally, I find it quite absurd how people can think we can go to war against a dictator killing tens of thousands of innocent aliens in the name of freedom, yet when some alien exercises his freedoms in the spirit of those given to the oppressed, we can shut him down. I'm making a dangerous assumption of people's opinion of the Iraq war, but I think either way this makes it clear where people's priorities should lie with Piers Morgan and censorship.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: Mongoose on January 11, 2013, 03:08:34 pm
That common-sense approach aside, I'm fairly certain that there have been multiple court cases affirming that foreigners legally residing in the US enjoy the protections offered by the Bill of Rights, which makes the petition all the more asinine.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: Lorric on January 11, 2013, 03:10:14 pm
Yes, by going down that path you're basically saying American citizens are superior to the rest of the World, who are merely second class citizens, and should be treated as such.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 11, 2013, 03:33:55 pm
Plenty of reason to actually wanting him deported back to England to face his charges.

If they wanted him back that badly on those charges, I assume they could simply ask. The US and UK have a number of operative extradition treaties.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: SpardaSon21 on January 11, 2013, 04:32:46 pm
They're probably happy he's spewing his diarrhea over here instead of back home.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: deathfun on January 11, 2013, 04:47:11 pm
They're probably happy he's spewing his diarrhea over here instead of back home.

He'll die of dehydration eventually
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: headdie on January 11, 2013, 05:12:31 pm
They're probably happy he's spewing his diarrhea over here instead of back home.

we defiantly are
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: redsniper on January 11, 2013, 05:28:28 pm
They're probably happy he's spewing his diarrhea over here instead of back home.

we defiantly are

Defying who exactly? :p
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: headdie on January 11, 2013, 05:37:52 pm
They're probably happy he's spewing his diarrhea over here instead of back home.

we defiantly are

Defying who exactly? :p

/me facepalms

We definitely are happy he is not spreading his bull over here any more
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: Flipside on January 12, 2013, 08:58:26 am
It's two tossers being controversial for the purpose of their own self-promotion.
Title: Re: Alex Jones - professional wackadoodle
Post by: Lorric on January 12, 2013, 10:40:16 am
It's two tossers being controversial for the purpose of their own self-promotion.

I think we have a winner  :D