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Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: wEvil on June 24, 2002, 06:53:06 am
http://www.3dlabs.com/product/wildcatvp/index.htm


MUHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: wEvil on June 24, 2002, 06:57:32 am
Benchmarks ;)

- Nvidiots, read and weep!!!!

http://www.amazoninternational.com/html/benchmarks/multiple/wildcatVP/wildcatVP.asp
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Fineus on June 24, 2002, 07:19:08 am
Funny how whenever one company (nVidia) produces something people hop up and down about how the specs will be out of date in 6 months, yet here you are doing the same ;)

Edit: And would you look at the price... the mid range one is almost 500 pounds! :eek:
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: wEvil on June 24, 2002, 07:26:23 am
well, i dont get to do it very often

and these cards do have a truly different architecture.

and the nvidia/PNY card of the same performance costs £800, so there :P
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Fineus on June 24, 2002, 07:30:01 am
Don't get me wrong - I'm happy to see yet another advance in the world of graphics, I just think sometimes people miss the point that it doesn't matter who makes the card. It's what the cards like that matters - this can be said about so many things.

And this card is indeed a good looking piece of kit, but it won't necessarily be better purely because it comes from a different company (in the same way that something from the same company may be as good/bad as the last thing).

I just like to treat everything as "new", that way you can be objective and make the best choice possible.

Anyways, yes - good looking card!
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: wEvil on June 24, 2002, 07:38:32 am
Well, 3Dlabs as a company have had a rough time but their products have always been great, as far as i'm aware.

Price/Performance has been lacking in recent years, but as professional cards compared to the comparitive trash Nvidia brought out to the market (there is a reason I hate them), they had the edge on quality.

I found it next to intolerable to see an obviously better product being pushed to the side simply because of low prices and more FPS.


with any luck 3Dlabs can scale this chips' clockspeed up nicely to compete with any competitors products, although i'd like to see Matrox do well too.


As i explained to a post by Blitz_Lightning - a designer cannot afford to not whether know the work being done is accurate or not.  It has to be accurate, the extra cash is worth it in the end.  

If everyone, not just one chip design company, had the same standards of quality the world would probably be a much better place.
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Darkage on June 24, 2002, 09:42:35 am
Must have one !! drool..
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Zeronet on June 24, 2002, 10:00:43 am
Too pricey i like my Geforce 3 Ti200, does everything i did it to. Price is everything.
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Darkage on June 24, 2002, 10:04:26 am
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Originally posted by Zeronet
Too pricey i like my Geforce 3 Ti200, does everything i did it to. Price is everything.



I am after quality, not that much after the speed of the card..

And the price doesn't mean a **** to me;)
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Zeronet on June 24, 2002, 10:05:34 am
I dont have an infinate supply of it.
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: wEvil on June 24, 2002, 11:44:37 am
The Wildcat VP is aimed towards a professional working in CAD/CAM and Digital Content Creation - the drivers and features of the board are such that is supports things like huge texture sizes, proper Zbuffering and wireframe Anti Aliasing.

The games boards don't need these features.

Creative will be releasing a games board based on this chip, which should cost about the same or less than the Matrox Parhelia (which is also currently about £350 for 128mb DDR model)

These are pro cards and are competitive with Nvidia Quadros and the ATI FireGL line, as well as high end SGI systems.

Price means dick in this arena when you consider the graphics card cost maybe £2k but a good engineer or animator costs you £200k and you'll be wasting your time if they can't do their job because of crap hardware.
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: vadar_1 on June 24, 2002, 12:00:24 pm
wow... it has a fancy sticker around the fan... im glad thats there... Because you know howmuch you look into your case (unless you have an eye of the storm case)
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: CP5670 on June 24, 2002, 12:47:40 pm
Actually I don't care about image quality much and would readily sacrifice that for speed. :p :D (I am a gamer rather than a modeler/animator)
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Darkage on June 24, 2002, 02:00:05 pm
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Originally posted by CP5670
Actually I don't care about image quality much and would readily sacrifice that for speed. :p :D (I am a gamer rather than a modeler/animator)


I am more of a animator/renderer then a game, i need quality boards not a board that gives me 5000 fps and **** image quality;)
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Darkage on June 24, 2002, 02:24:32 pm
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Originally posted by vadar_1
wow... it has a fancy sticker around the fan... im glad thats there... Because you know howmuch you look into your case (unless you have an eye of the storm case)



My case is always open on both sides...sounds like a jet engine:) it has 4 fans:)

HDD cooler
GPU cooler
CPU: cooler
Chipset:cooler

Don't know the specifications out of my head but they cool like hell.
CPU stable at 20Celcius...

hard to sleep when the thing stands 2 meters from my bed.
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Eternal One on June 24, 2002, 02:31:48 pm
20 Celsius? Woah, that's some formidable cooling. :)
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Darkage on June 24, 2002, 03:29:10 pm
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Originally posted by Eternal One
20 Celsius? Woah, that's some formidable cooling. :)


I like good cooling:)

I am proberly going for a watter cooled case.
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Mr Carrot on June 24, 2002, 09:32:44 pm
How inane and predictable, in typical free loader fashion the internet denzines flock to support the underdog, simply because they are the underdog.

:D :p
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: CP5670 on June 24, 2002, 11:28:06 pm
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My case is always open on both sides...sounds like a jet engine:) it has 4 fans:)

HDD cooler
GPU cooler
CPU: cooler
Chipset:cooler

Don't know the specifications out of my head but they cool like hell.
CPU stable at 20Celcius...

hard to sleep when the thing stands 2 meters from my bed.


I have 12 fans but everything is heavily overclocked, so the processor temperature is around 55ºC and the motherboard at 45ºC. As you can imagine, this thing is extremely loud. :D (sounds just like the ventilation units inside an airplane IMO)

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How inane and predictable, in typical free loader fashion the internet denzines flock to support the underdog, simply because they are the underdog.


That is sadly somewhat true. :p :D
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: wEvil on June 25, 2002, 03:11:08 am
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Originally posted by Mr Carrot
How inane and predictable, in typical free loader fashion the internet denzines flock to support the underdog, simply because they are the underdog.

:D :p


Apart from the fact nvidia make genuinely crap products and 3Dlabs don't.

;)
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Shrike on June 25, 2002, 03:35:38 am
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Originally posted by wEvil
Apart from the fact nvidia make genuinely crap products and 3Dlabs don't.

;)
Careful, or this nvidia user might...... adjust your title. ;7
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: wEvil on June 25, 2002, 04:00:41 am
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Originally posted by Shrike
Careful, or this nvidia user might...... adjust your title. ;7


to what...3dlabs fanboi?
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Shrike on June 25, 2002, 04:05:53 am
Nah, that's too boring. :D
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: wEvil on June 25, 2002, 04:10:53 am
:nervous:
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Shrike on June 25, 2002, 04:12:26 am
Anyhow, back to talking about graphics cards.
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Carl on June 25, 2002, 04:56:17 am
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Originally posted by Thunder
Edit: And would you look at the price... the mid range one is almost 500 pounds! :eek:


that's a quarter of a ton!
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: CP5670 on June 25, 2002, 07:18:27 am
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Apart from the fact nvidia make genuinely crap products and 3Dlabs don't.

;)


Not for those of us speed freaks. :D
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Styxx on June 25, 2002, 07:58:18 am
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Originally posted by Shrike
Anyhow, back to talking about graphics cards.


Nah, threatening people is so much more fun!! :D ;7
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: wEvil on June 25, 2002, 08:14:48 am
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Originally posted by Styxx


Nah, threatening people is so much more fun!! :D ;7


Go on , then ;7
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Dranon on June 25, 2002, 10:15:24 am
Looks nice, but it's much more than i will ever need as i am not graphically inclined.  I only need a decent vid card for games.

And considering that all the cooling fans in my comp decided to die a few days ago, i will be needing a new vid card, as my trusty GF2 GTS cooling fan died, and overheats too quickly without it...
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: JR2000Z on June 25, 2002, 01:35:40 pm
Gee, I was panning of getting a GeForce4!

Now I don't know what to think! :eek:
Title: Introducing....the 3Dlabs Wildcat VP!!!
Post by: Blitz_Lightning on June 26, 2002, 05:25:58 am
Well, gl and gw 3dlabs :D