the ancients in bp canon had sublight interstellar travel, and they built an empire with it. keeping out of subspace probably isn't enough to stop the shivans
the ancients in bp canon had sublight interstellar travel, and they built an empire with it. keeping out of subspace probably isn't enough to stop the shivans
Yes, but, iirc, the Shivan incursion of the Ancient's systems only began after they began using subspace.
there is no way a human colony would survive outside a solar system.
there is no way a human colony would survive outside a solar system.
Kuiper Belt/Oort Cloud is already so far out it might as well be.
I doubt any habitat could survive long outside of the Heliosphere. The solar winds and cosmic radiation would be to much overcome.Which is presumably why the Gefs are genetically engineering humans like the Greenfly sleeper. The bigger problem is probably making their habitats self-sustaining; they still can't get by without the Jovians, let alone a star.
the ancients in bp canon had sublight interstellar travel, and they built an empire with it. keeping out of subspace probably isn't enough to stop the shivans
Yes, but, iirc, the Shivan incursion of the Ancient's systems only began after they began using subspace.
and they never tried to flee in stl ships?
What if there were Ancients who escaped the Shivan genocide and are there somewhere, undiscovered in the void?
the ancients in bp canon had sublight interstellar travel, and they built an empire with it. keeping out of subspace probably isn't enough to stop the shivans
Yes, but, iirc, the Shivan incursion of the Ancient's systems only began after they began using subspace.
and they never tried to flee in stl ships?
Probably because after the Shivans knew they needed to be culled, they would probably just do a small sub-space jump and kill the smart-asses.
But, wait a second... Got a bit of a brain-wave here. What if there were Ancients who escaped the Shivan genocide and are there somewhere, undiscovered in the void? Since Terrans, Vasudans, and Shivans (presumably) rely heavily on Subspace to cover vast distances (as opposed to sub-light travel). And since it is also well established that the Ancients had a vast sub-light empire, they certainly had the know-how to efficient sub-light travel and possibly even extra-solar habitation.
MacDuff should have flown away from Sol, far away. For aeons, until his descendants no longer resembled humans, free of whatever blaim humankind called upon itself. Now he's dead. I wonder if he ran to his entombed wife, I imagine him having done so.
I don't think a species could make it to the status of a spacefaring civilization if it wasn't as brutal and ruthless as humanity is.
The galaxy of Freespace is pretty empty, possibly as a result of Shivan and/or Vishnan actions, or factors not directly related to these two. External threat seems limited. Internet global threat before getting to space, perhaps more likely. Curiosity seems important though, to reach out.Not every star has subspace nodes. Perhaps the galaxy is teeming with life, in places the Ancients and Shivans could never reach.
The galaxy of Freespace is pretty empty, possibly as a result of Shivan and/or Vishnan actions, or factors not directly related to these two. External threat seems limited. Internet global threat before getting to space, perhaps more likely. Curiosity seems important though, to reach out.Not every star has subspace nodes. Perhaps the galaxy is teeming with life, in places the Ancients and Shivans could never reach.
The node in UT dealing with the Lucifer specifically notes the emptiness of the sector following the Ancient hegemony and subsequent cull, which implicitly suggests that other regions of space are teeming with life and the Terrans and Zods just evolved at the wrong place at the wrong time. Or the right place at the right time, since a region with four, five different races competing against each other would get culled that much more brutally.The galaxy of Freespace is pretty empty, possibly as a result of Shivan and/or Vishnan actions, or factors not directly related to these two. External threat seems limited. Internet global threat before getting to space, perhaps more likely. Curiosity seems important though, to reach out.Not every star has subspace nodes. Perhaps the galaxy is teeming with life, in places the Ancients and Shivans could never reach.