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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: karajorma on March 06, 2013, 09:35:55 am

Title: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: karajorma on March 06, 2013, 09:35:55 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4bpONe-6AQ

Seriously? There are tribes living in the Amazon who can quote the lyrics to that theme tune. :p
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: Thaeris on March 06, 2013, 09:50:35 am
What effing lesson (as stated by the reporter at the end of the video) did the student have to learn? That people are half braindead and overly taken by fear? What nonsense.
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: Pred the Penguin on March 06, 2013, 10:30:56 am
That's a good lesson to learn if you didn't know already. :lol:
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: Klaustrophobia on March 06, 2013, 03:29:52 pm
desk, meet forehead.



if there's any good in this, it's that there's at least one fewer person in the world with ringback music.  that **** is seriously annoying.
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: deathfun on March 06, 2013, 06:04:01 pm
Great, now that song is back to being stuck in my head
Still ridiculous and hilarious

Quote
What effing lesson

Don't play your music so loudly that people can overhear? Don't play music in public? Don't play music?
SUBMIT
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: watsisname on March 06, 2013, 10:04:36 pm
Sounds like that one student...
COULD NOT GRASP THE TRUE FORM OF BEL-AIR (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuQGPILDKfI)
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: Pred the Penguin on March 06, 2013, 10:31:14 pm
Oh yeah, just wanted to mention, I had never heard of Bel-Air before this.
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: Black Wolf on March 06, 2013, 10:37:56 pm
Oh yeah, just wanted to mention, I had never heard of Bel-Air before this.

Seriously? Wow. How old are you if you don't mind my asking?
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: Pred the Penguin on March 07, 2013, 07:48:02 am
20... but I spent all of high school and middle school abroad.
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: Flipside on March 07, 2013, 02:33:12 pm
It's strange that if you were listening to Rock you could be shooting craps, pool or breezers, but the moment you mention shooting in Rap, it could only possibly have one meaning to some people...
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: Klaustrophobia on March 07, 2013, 03:04:30 pm
can we not make this into something it's not? 

"shooting b-ball" 
"shooting people"

say those two out loud.  now imagine hearing it spoken quickly in a song over a cell phone.
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: NGTM-1R on March 07, 2013, 04:41:31 pm
can we not make this into something it's not? 

That would require it to have not already been made into something it's not.
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: karajorma on March 07, 2013, 08:03:38 pm
can we not make this into something it's not? 

"shooting b-ball" 
"shooting people"

say those two out loud.  now imagine hearing it spoken quickly in a song over a cell phone.

And this mistake requires a 3 hour police interrogation? Rather than simply going

Police : "Your out going message mentioned shooting people outside of school."
Student : "No, it's about shooting bball outside of school. Ring my phone and you can hear it for yourself."
Police : "Oh, the Fresh Prince...You can go. Sorry to bother you."
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: Scourge of Ages on March 07, 2013, 08:15:18 pm
And this mistake requires a 3 hour police interrogation? Rather than simply going

Police : "Your out going message mentioned shooting people outside of school."
Student : "No, it's about shooting bball outside of school. Ring my phone and you can hear it for yourself."
Police : "Oh, the Fresh Prince...You can go. Sorry to bother you."

THIS is what escalates this from "simple misunderstanding and understandable suspicion" to "nationwide facepalm"
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: Klaustrophobia on March 07, 2013, 10:26:30 pm
my comment was directly at flipside's post implying that it was because it was rap song specifically.  it was mistaken lyrics, not "YOU DAMN KIDS AND YOUR HIPPITY HOP AND PANTS AROUND YOUR ANKLES!!!"
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: BloodEagle on March 08, 2013, 03:20:24 pm
Since when is a song of ANY SORT considered grounds for police involvement and possible imprisonment?
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: Scourge of Ages on March 08, 2013, 03:36:50 pm
Since when is a song of ANY SORT considered grounds for police involvement and possible imprisonment?

I was wondering that myself, but then I started thinking about it, and I remembered that a large number of school shootings were actually preceded by the shooters posting things like videos, blogs, and stuff before the shooting.

So to be fair, if it actually was a song that a kid played that went "shooting some people outside of the school", then that would be grounds for suspicion.

But this song was not that, so it should have been cleared up after only a moment of clarification.
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: Flipside on March 08, 2013, 07:47:08 pm
In fairness, you could be out shooting breezers and leave a trail of dead hitchikers down the Freeway....

Seriously though, I wouldn't discount the style of music out of hand for subconsciously affecting the assumption of what the words actually were, it's not really a question of 'turning it into something it's not' so much as the fact that the brain responds in specific ways to specific audio stimuli. Maybe the image that rap has also played a subconscious role, I wouldn't discount that entirely either, but the real point is, I could use 'I don't like Mondays' by the BoomTown Rats on my phone and no-one would probably stop to think it was about an actual school shooting, but it's done in a 'pop' style an is considered a classic.
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: BloodEagle on March 08, 2013, 09:46:09 pm
I guess what I'm saying is that, legally speaking, this should not have happened.  It could have been an excerpt of Sweeney Todd playing on a barber's cell phone, and it still wouldn't be right to react that way.

I get that the cops were just doing their jobs (the guy in the video was trying hard not to say how stupid the whole thing was), but someone up the food chain seriously messed up.
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: deathfun on March 08, 2013, 10:17:59 pm
I would disagree
Every notion of a threat has to be taken as though someone cried wolf. If it gets called in, you have to have a consistent reaction

Then again, when I threatened to bring a shotgun to school and shooting people (written in french with all the verbs conjugated accordingly) on a quiz (question about "After you graduate you will...") and all I got was a trip to the counselor. RCMP was thinking of getting involved, but they didn't go that far

From there on, I screwed with the school board as much as possible
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: BloodEagle on March 08, 2013, 11:54:34 pm
This wasn't any sort of threat.  It was a ringtone.  Plenty of music covers violent subject matter (including things far worse than what she thought was said), but no one reacts THIS strongly to it. Hell, the kid was issued a 'don't do it again', FOR LISTENING TO MUSIC IN PUBLIC.

I can't help but feel that we didn't get all of the information about this.
Title: Re: Fresh Prince of Columbine?
Post by: deathfun on March 09, 2013, 12:47:16 am
But it was construed as one
That's the key point here

And yeah, that's also a possibility. News outlets have a tendency to leave out details or context sensitive things