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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Luis Dias on March 14, 2013, 06:31:00 am

Title: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Luis Dias on March 14, 2013, 06:31:00 am
First you closed iGoogle, and you told me to rely on Google Reader. Now you are closing Google Reader?!?

****.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Fury on March 14, 2013, 10:02:10 am
Pretty much my words exactly from this morning. **** you google. There are alternatives, but none that work seamlessly in both browser and WinPhone. Well okay, there are but they're all using google reader API.

As soon as I find an alternative that has WinPhone app, I will also make it a point to move my mail to outlook.com. Better now than when they announce they will close gmail in three months, right?

****ing google.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on March 14, 2013, 01:29:39 pm
First you closed iGoogle, and you told me to rely on Google Reader. Now you are closing Google Reader?!?

I switched my RSS feeds to Thunderbird recently. I find it quite convenient (of course, your use case may differ).

Pretty much my words exactly from this morning. **** you google. There are alternatives, but none that work seamlessly in both browser and WinPhone. Well okay, there are but they're all using google reader API.

... Windows Phone? I can't help but wonder why?
As for the mail servers, MS may not be quite as reliable (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/14/microsoft_hot_servers/) as you'd like. And Google's spam filters are way better. My brother uses Hotmail, he gets flooded constantly - I haven't seen any spam outside my Gmail spambox for a long time...
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Apollo on March 14, 2013, 03:31:11 pm
I'm no expert but I've heard that Windows Phone 8 is actually pretty good.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Mika on March 14, 2013, 03:56:42 pm
I wish everybody else luck with their cloud services as well - this is sort of the reason why older people have been very reluctant on cloud based stuff
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Nuke on March 14, 2013, 07:03:25 pm
i didnt spend hundreds of dollars on computer hardware to run software on some server somewhere.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: perihelion on March 14, 2013, 09:22:47 pm
i didnt spend hundreds of dollars on computer hardware to run software on some server somewhere.
Pretty much this.  My sympathies to every that gets bit by this, but you'll have to pardon my schadenfreude.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Fury on March 15, 2013, 12:25:40 am
i didnt spend hundreds of dollars on computer hardware to run software on some server somewhere.
It is incredibly convenient to access stuff on any device with internet access, anywhere. Without having to waste time to sync data between these devices. In case of google reader, you can start reading news in the morning on your home computer after waking up. On your way to work you can continue reading on your phone where you left off or on your work computer at work. Why would I want to be limited to my home computer or waste time to do syncs between these devices?

I switched my RSS feeds to Thunderbird recently. I find it quite convenient (of course, your use case may differ).
See above.

... Windows Phone? I can't help but wonder why?
Prejudiced much? WinPhone8 is really good. Would be a lot better if developers would actually get off their asses and port their Android/iOS apps to WinPhone.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Fury on March 15, 2013, 01:20:01 am
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-in-the-clear-to-add-google-caldav-support-to-windows-phone-7000012633/

So first Google dropped support for EAS, forcing Microsoft to quickly put together CardDAV and CalDAV support in their apps. Now Google drops support for (open protocol) CalDAV in favor of their own proprietary API?

What the **** Google?
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Fury on March 15, 2013, 05:36:01 am
Right, I decided to move away from google where possible. Grew tired of them killing services that I use.

GMail --> Outlook(.com). Moving old emails over from GMail is easier than I thought it'd be. Next I should go over all my accounts to change their email addresses. GMail is already forwarding everything to Outlook.
Google Reader --> Most likely Feedly, as they have replacement API well underway and the plan is to allow current Google Reader API clients to easily plug into their new API when it is ready. Until that API is ready, I'm stuck with Reader unless another service decides to publish WinPhone app first.
Google Chrome --> Comodo Dragon, its based on Chromium like Chrome. Extensions from Chrome's webstore work, as does built-in sync. Does not have built-in flash and pdf plugins though.
Google DNS --> Comodo DNS
Google search --> Not sure, Google still gives more or less better search results than competition. Probably will use Bing from now on as primary search.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Luis Dias on March 15, 2013, 06:28:19 am
i didnt spend hundreds of dollars on computer hardware to run software on some server somewhere.
Pretty much this.  My sympathies to every that gets bit by this, but you'll have to pardon my schadenfreude.

You aware that Google Reader isn't exactly a cloud storage service, right? Just wondering if your schadenfreude isn't completely ignorant and misplaced.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Mongoose on March 15, 2013, 09:18:22 am
I'd never even heard of Google Reader before this, so I guess I'm not losing anything myself.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: General Battuta on March 15, 2013, 09:21:10 am
I wish everybody else luck with their cloud services as well - this is sort of the reason why older people have been very reluctant on cloud based stuff

I wish older people luck with figuring out what a cloud service is
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Mongoose on March 15, 2013, 10:42:35 am
I don't think my grandmother even understands what a computer is. :p
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Nuke on March 15, 2013, 01:31:07 pm
im convinced that young people dont know what a computer is either.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Polpolion on March 15, 2013, 02:23:09 pm
im convinced that young people dont know what a computer is either.

To be fair that's one of those things where 99 times out of 100 people would be able to correctly identify something yet still not give a proper definition for it. Not a huge deal since 99 times out of 100 it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: BloodEagle on March 15, 2013, 03:10:27 pm
im convinced that young people dont know what a computer is either.

My thoughts on today's youth roughly parallel your own.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Fury on March 16, 2013, 01:27:33 am
And now Google has gone and deleted their own RSS extension for Chrome from Chrome store. And I was using that extension too. Thank you so ****ing much, Google.

At the rate this **** is going down, I'm guessing it won't take long for websites to begin abandoning feeds. The idea scares me. I use feeds to follow news from many different websites. Use of twitter or facebook isn't even on the table, because these websites put together provide maybe around 300 news per day. It's impossible amount to follow using twitter or facebook, which provide no means to keep track of read and unread items or any sort of bookmarks.

It saddens me that many people don't even know about feeds and how damned convenient they are to follow large amount of news in one place without visual overload.

**** this ****, seriously.

Edit: This was fourth or fifth thing Google has killed that I've been using. Just to clarify where I'm coming from for being so pissed at Google.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: LordMelvin on March 16, 2013, 02:57:35 am
Hmmm... "Feedly," you say...
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: watsisname on March 16, 2013, 03:56:09 am
im convinced that young people dont know what a computer is either.

(http://i.imgur.com/hvoCkwV.jpg)
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Nuke on March 16, 2013, 05:25:27 am
give that man a cookie
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Fury on March 16, 2013, 10:21:01 am
Just picked up this a while ago: http://blog.digg.com/post/45355701332/were-building-a-reader
So with this and Feedly also doing the same, maybe the future of feeds doesn't look as grim as I thought.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Jeff Vader on March 16, 2013, 10:55:28 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A25VgNZDQ08
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Fury on March 16, 2013, 11:01:29 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A25VgNZDQ08
Brilliant! :lol:
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Mikes on March 20, 2013, 01:52:50 pm
im convinced that young people dont know what a computer is either.

To be fair that's one of those things where 99 times out of 100 people would be able to correctly identify something yet still not give a proper definition for it. Not a huge deal since 99 times out of 100 it doesn't matter.

You could argue that in all the cases where people mistakenly think the iPad is a computer... it does matter a whole lot for the industry at large. :p

Of course... for the people who make that mistake it doesn't matter, so you have a point. :p
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: General Battuta on March 20, 2013, 02:47:52 pm
The iPad is by any technical definition a computer, though
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on March 20, 2013, 03:06:14 pm
And now Google has gone and deleted their own RSS extension for Chrome from Chrome store. And I was using that extension too. Thank you so ****ing much, Google.
Hey look, it's back! (http://www.omgchrome.com/and-its-back-google-reinstate-rss-subscription-extension-for-chrome/)
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Polpolion on March 20, 2013, 04:42:19 pm
You could argue that in all the cases where people mistakenly think the iPad is a computer... it does matter a whole lot for the industry at large. :p

Of course... for the people who make that mistake it doesn't matter, so you have a point. :p

What battuta said. Peripherals and speed don't define a computer. Pretty much everything from MP3 players to gaming PCs to web servers are all on equivalent grounds, more or less. In fact you'd need to get pretty specialized to find computers that can't compute everything your typical desktop could.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Nuke on March 20, 2013, 06:01:28 pm
the fact that ipads and smart phones are not called computers is just a matter of marketing. to sell them to kids who often dont know that they are in fact buying computers. which of course leads back to my original point.
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Luis Dias on March 20, 2013, 06:12:11 pm
It is indeed funny that a thread started as a rage against google is subtly changing into an apple hatin' one. ahah
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: Polpolion on March 20, 2013, 08:16:59 pm
the fact that ipads and smart phones are not called computers is just a matter of marketing. to sell them to kids who often dont know that they are in fact buying computers. which of course leads back to my original point.

 :wtf:
Title: Re: F!"#$ YOU GOOGLE
Post by: NGTM-1R on March 20, 2013, 09:18:55 pm
It is indeed funny that a thread started as a rage against google is subtly changing into an apple hatin' one. ahah

Uh, considering that if anything the majority of the posts have defended the ipad, are we reading the same thread?