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Title: Star Trek: Nemesis
Post by: an0n on June 26, 2002, 10:00:32 pm: http://nemesis.startrek.com

They gots a new trailer (and the official site) online about 30 mins ago. Damn it looks good. Gorgeous effects, great colour and lighting, some kick-ass shots of Romulus, a funky cloaking effect. I'm a bit pissed about the whole 13/12/02 thing but meh, it looks like it'll be worth the wait.
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Post by: Bobboau on June 26, 2002, 10:17:54 pm: I want more Borg!!!
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Post by: Fineus on June 27, 2002, 02:03:47 am: A generations final voyage? What are they doing next...DS9?

Ah well, it does look kick ass... some interesting ground based action as well as the space combat and so on (though those buggies look to human for my liking... they're aliens aren't they?). Either way, it looks suitably dark and moody. Perhaps it'll be good :)
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Post by: Shrike on June 27, 2002, 02:39:00 am: Asskickage.

Road Warrior 0wns j00. specially when the dune buggies have energy guns.
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Post by: Ryx on June 27, 2002, 03:31:49 am: Looks pretty good. :nod:

I'm not sure it's such a smart move to pitch it against LOTR, though.

If this is the last pic with the next gen guys, then I wonder if the Enterprise crew will take over from now/then.
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Post by: SlipStream on June 27, 2002, 03:44:49 am: Oh yea. That was so cool. I want more.

:jaw: :jaw: :jaw: :jaw: :jaw:
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Post by: wEvil on June 27, 2002, 04:04:16 am: awww....hell.

*braces for more dumb star trek renders*
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Post by: Fineus on June 27, 2002, 04:08:16 am: Dude you really need to stop being so cynical ;)
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Post by: wEvil on June 27, 2002, 05:37:44 am: :D
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Post by: Grey Wolf on June 27, 2002, 12:03:16 pm: Only 4 TNG movies :(
Hell, they gave TOS 6 1/2 (Generations is partly a TOS movie) movies, and TNG had better actors....
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Post by: CODEDOG ND on June 27, 2002, 12:11:16 pm: What!??! Captian Kirk is the Galactic Pimp!

Patrick Stewart is starting to worry after I saw the movie "Jeffery".

And so are several ST characters including Ethan Philips, and several sitcom people are starting to scare me too after seeing that movie with all of them in it. Except Nathan Lane, but course he's always scared me. :nervous:

Jeffery(The guy from The Pretender): I thought u were a priest with all your Saints, holiness and purity.
Priest(Nathan Lane): Ahem...I'm a Caaatholic priest. I only like gardeners and little boys.
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Post by: Thorn on June 27, 2002, 12:53:22 pm: Yeah.. right on my birthday too...
Goin to see this one...
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Post by: Styxx on June 27, 2002, 01:20:47 pm: The teaser kicks ass... :D
Title: Star Trek: Nemesis
Post by: NeoHunter on June 28, 2002, 07:13:41 am: I can't wait for it to come out in cinemas in Sigapore. Its been a long time since I've seen the Enterprise E in action.

Actually, its been a long time since I seen any Star Trek movie.:D
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Post by: Nico on June 28, 2002, 08:13:06 am: Quote
Originally posted by wEvil
awww....hell.

*braces for more dumb star trek renders*

(http://forum.hardware.fr/images/perso/xp1700.gif)
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Post by: Unknown Target on June 28, 2002, 09:35:16 am: Picard is a wimp!
This is how it goes:

Captain Kirk:
I'm going to count to three and fire...1...2...3...fire!

Captain Picard:
I'm going to count to ten and fire...1...2...3...I'm really not kidding here!...4....5....6...I mean it, I will shoot you!...7...8...Maby we can talk this over???

EDIT: so what it this, a movie, or a game? It says "this film has not yet been rated, but the site looks more like a game (I'm too lazy to download the trailers)
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Post by: Thorn on June 28, 2002, 09:37:21 am: Which is why Riker is there... He's not afraid to shoot first, ask questions later...
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Post by: Unknown Target on June 28, 2002, 09:39:04 am: But Riker doesn't command the ship :D
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Post by: an0n on June 28, 2002, 09:39:48 am: I like how on the Enterprise finale, when Archer realised what was going on he wasn't like "Deploy the beacons.", he was like "Arm the torpedoes, then deploy the beacons".
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Post by: Unknown Target on June 28, 2002, 09:48:15 am: I hope they replace the TNG characters with some ass-kickin' guys in the mold of Captain Kirk, and Archer (from Enterprise, the new one)
The woman captain and Picard are pussies.;):D

:headz:
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Post by: an0n on June 28, 2002, 11:38:05 am: Sisko kicked some ass. He was always blowin' the crap outta Cardassians, Jem Hadar and Maquis and he even had that Romulan dude assasinated by Garak. He was a true "Yay, Federation" guy. Not like all the others who are all "We have to uphold our morales". Sisko and Sloan were probably the two most ass kickin guys in the galaxy and did more through violence and threats that Picard or Janeway ever did through all their talking and reasoning.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on June 28, 2002, 06:53:14 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Unkown Target
But Riker doesn't command the ship :D
Are you sure that'll be true for long? I'd bet that by the end of this movie Riker will either be in command or leave the ship.
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Post by: Thorn on June 28, 2002, 08:55:52 pm: I saw the bit ET did on it. Picard does not die, yadda yadda yadda...
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Post by: NeoHunter on June 28, 2002, 10:40:40 pm: If I'm not mistaken, the trailer shows Data "jumping" off a wreakage and into space. The corridor where he "jumps" off from looks the interior of the Enterprise. Was the Enterprise destroyed in this 10 instalment of Star Trek?
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Post by: an0n on June 28, 2002, 10:46:40 pm: Quote
Originally posted by NeoHunter
If I'm not mistaken, the trailer shows Data "jumping" off a wreakage and into space. The corridor where he "jumps" off from looks the interior of the Enterprise. Was the Enterprise destroyed in this 10 instalment of Star Trek?

If it is then Picard is ****ed. He's already lost one flagship and has blown up countless other federation starships. A court-martial for each instance. He's gonna get boned by command.
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Post by: NeoHunter on June 28, 2002, 11:05:45 pm: Haha:lol:

If the Enterprise E is indeed going to be destroyed in Nemesis, I guess we can look forward to a new Federation starship.:)
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Post by: Thorn on June 28, 2002, 11:17:23 pm: It isnt destroyed, it just has the front half of the saucer torn off from the bridge forward....
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Post by: Corhellion on June 29, 2002, 10:01:40 am: Watch the trailer again, I saw it on Entertainment Tonight and in one little clip....it looked like Riker was holding on to dear life from being sucked into space! Maybe the E does get royally *ahem* screwed....oh that romulan cloaking effect:jaw: :D :cool:...someone make it for FS2....or better yet, have the Source Code guys figure out a way to cloak ships....instead of them just disappearing in a blink of an eye :p

anyhow...that's my 2 cents worth

Can't wait to see it!!!

Cor
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Post by: NeoHunter on June 29, 2002, 11:37:18 am: Quote
Originally posted by Corhellion
Watch the trailer again, I saw it on Entertainment Tonight and in one little clip....it looked like Riker was holding on to dear life from being sucked into space! Maybe the E does get royally *ahem* screwed....oh that romulan cloaking effect:jaw: :D :cool:...someone make it for FS2....or better yet, have the Source Code guys figure out a way to cloak ships....instead of them just disappearing in a blink of an eye :p

anyhow...that's my 2 cents worth

Can't wait to see it!!!
Cor

I love the cloaking effect too.

Just a question. Which one was bigger? Enterprise D or E??? My friend said the D was bigger. I thought it was the other way around?
Title: Star Trek: Nemesis
Post by: Thorn on June 29, 2002, 12:23:57 pm: D is taller and wider... E is longer...
Title: Star Trek: Nemesis
Post by: an0n on June 29, 2002, 12:24:54 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Thorn
D is taller and wider... E is longer...

Pfff. D is like about 5% wider and 10% taller but E is about twice as long.
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Post by: Fineus on June 29, 2002, 12:40:09 pm: If your going to pretend to know what you're talking about you could at least call them by their proper designations - the D is a Galaxy and the E is a Sovereign.

runs...
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Post by: Thorn on June 29, 2002, 12:45:09 pm: I knew that.. its just easier to type D and E...
The Sovereign is around 600 meters and the Galaxy is around 500 iirc...
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Post by: TheCelestialOne on June 29, 2002, 01:11:19 pm: Ships under the command of Jean-Luc Picard :

Stargazer (Constitution-class) : Blown up :ha:
Enterprise NCC-1701-D (Galaxy-class) : Blown up :ha:
Enterprise NCC-1701-E (Souvereign-class : Maybe blown up :ha:

New ship of Picard after court-martial :

(http://www.axeman3d.co.uk/thumbnails/torp0001.jpg)
Torpedo in wich dead people get shot into space

New Enterprise (Actually old) :

(http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/stmagazine/nx-01-1.jpg)
NX CLASS
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Post by: Thorn on June 29, 2002, 01:14:40 pm: Quote
Originally posted by TheCelestialOne
Stargazer (Constitution-class) : Blown up :ha:

U.S.S. Stargazer NCC-2893
Constellation Class
(http://www.beyondantares.co.uk/gallery/ships/images/stargazer2.jpg)
Title: Star Trek: Nemesis
Post by: Grey Wolf on June 29, 2002, 04:11:41 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Thorn
I knew that.. its just easier to type D and E...
The Sovereign is around 600 meters and the Galaxy is around 500 iirc...
Nah.....
Acccording to the DITL, the Galaxy is approximately 641 and the Sovereign is 685. These sizes are confirmed by the Bridge Commander Manual.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on June 29, 2002, 04:32:34 pm: I was just viewing the trailer, but was that.... Lore :shaking:
I thought he had been completely disabled!

Also, those attack fighters are SW33T! We really need to mod those into FS2.

Finally, if the E is destroyed, the F will probably be an upgraded Sovereign, perhaps with that ablative armor and the new torps seen in the Voyager finale?
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Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 29, 2002, 05:07:09 pm: same here , I was quite surprised to see what appears to be Data's twin resurface again...
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Post by: Warlock on June 29, 2002, 07:11:48 pm: LOL

WHY in the world would they screw over Picard for blowing up THREE ships ?

Kirk blew up a ship every movie damned near and got PROMOTED for it :D

Obviously Starfleet has issues.
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Post by: NeoHunter on June 29, 2002, 07:11:50 pm: Maybe if they re-programmed Lore, they could have two ass kicking androids on their side. Two androoids who want to be more human. Hehehe:D
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Post by: Sheepy on June 30, 2002, 09:58:49 am: *Thinks back*

Ok i may be completely wrong about this but here goes.

Worf is in this movie, yes we know this
Worf is in DS9, yes we also know this, BUT when worf 1st appears in DS9, i cant remember who, but some ones says to him that they are sorry to hear about the Enterprise, it was a truley great ship (or summit along those lines).

So if this is set before that time in DS9 i assume the ship does get blown to bits.

Well its either that or they just asked him if he wanted to join the crew for abit (alot of that seems to go on in starfleet).

*prepares for flames*
Title: Star Trek: Nemesis
Post by: Sheepy on June 30, 2002, 10:03:16 am: ok read though it, looks like he is being asked to serve again, my bad.
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Post by: an0n on June 30, 2002, 10:36:30 am: Worf was assigned to DS9 after D got blown up and was supposed to stay there until the E was finished but he took partial command of the Defiant and was stuck there until the end of the Dominion War. Now he's the Federation Ambassador to Qo'nos.

Quote
Finally, if the E is destroyed, the F will probably be an upgraded Sovereign, perhaps with that ablative armor and the new torps seen in the Voyager finale?

The flagship is always the second or third in a class so I'm guessing it'd be a Prometheus or some newer more ass-kickin ship with transphasic torps and ablaitive generators.

And there's a thing. The Romulans wouldn't stand a chance. The Enterprise would most likely be fitted with the torps and could blow the **** outta a Warbird with one shot.
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Post by: Thorn on June 30, 2002, 10:40:25 am: Bah.. who needs that when a spread of Quantums will do the same thing when used with a phaser burst or two...
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Post by: an0n on June 30, 2002, 10:44:17 am: Quote
Originally posted by Thorn
Bah.. who needs that when a spread of Quantums will do the same thing when used with a phaser burst or two...

Hmmm.

Quantums+Phasers=Damaged Galor class
TransPhasics=Destroyed Borg fleet
Title: Star Trek: Nemesis
Post by: Thorn on June 30, 2002, 10:51:50 am: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
Quantums+Phasers=Damaged Galor class

Dead Galor if you hit it in the right spot... Dead Keldon too...
Hit it right around the warp core... the first Phaser blast will weaken its shields, first quantum will weaken them even more... the next three will punch through, impact the hull, and blast through, another phaser blast.. bam.. dead...
As for the Transphasic, I never saw those episodes....
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Post by: an0n on June 30, 2002, 11:06:09 am: Quote
Originally posted by Thorn

Dead Galor if you hit it in the right spot... Dead Keldon too...
Hit it right around the warp core... the first Phaser blast will weaken its shields, first quantum will weaken them even more... the next three will punch through, impact the hull, and blast through, another phaser blast.. bam.. dead...
As for the Transphasic, I never saw those episodes....
Voyager Finale: Voyager, all ablaitived up, takes one a ton of Borg ships (who can get past the ablaitive armour) and takes 'em down with like one or two shots.
Title: Star Trek: Nemesis
Post by: Mr Carrot on June 30, 2002, 11:17:01 am: Im assuming the federation went from pussies to being war crazy at some point?
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Post by: an0n on June 30, 2002, 11:18:14 am: Quote
Originally posted by Mr Carrot
Im assuming the federation went from pussies to being war crazy at some point?

Well yeah, during the Dominion War. But Voyager got the torp and armour from future Janeway.
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Post by: Mr Carrot on June 30, 2002, 11:24:35 am: Im not a big fan but i remmber the dominion kicking the crap out of the feds even in the big end battles?
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Post by: Grey Wolf on July 01, 2002, 10:27:53 am: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
Worf was assigned to DS9 after D got blown up and was supposed to stay there until the E was finished but he took partial command of the Defiant and was stuck there until the end of the Dominion War. Now he's the Federation Ambassador to Qo'nos.

The flagship is always the second or third in a class so I'm guessing it'd be a Prometheus or some newer more ass-kickin ship with transphasic torps and ablaitive generators.

And there's a thing. The Romulans wouldn't stand a chance. The Enterprise would most likely be fitted with the torps and could blow the **** outta a Warbird with one shot.
Nah, the Prometheus is screwy. I'd like to see that Galaxy that they used in "All Good Things...." as a new ship in the fleet. Fast, powerful, big ass-kicking phaser cannon. Put the torps and ablative armor on that baby :eek2:
OC, that probably won't happen, due to the fact it's an alternate timeline....
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Post by: Unknown Target on July 01, 2002, 10:30:48 am: I'd like to see an Akira-class starship. They kick much ass, yes.
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Post by: Fineus on July 01, 2002, 10:34:30 am: Aren't you people assuming that they'll make another Trek movie in that time span? As it's been pointed out the stories of DS9 and Voyager have found a conclusion, so they'd have to step back to the Enterprise era, and you can forget your high-tech stuff there!
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Post by: Unknown Target on July 01, 2002, 10:36:44 am: Now, Archer is cool.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on July 01, 2002, 10:44:31 am: Well, let's look at the candidates suggested here:

Prometheus Class
(http://ditl.org/Gengrafix/promhit.jpg)
Arnament:
18 Phaser Arrays
5 Torpedo Tubes
My Opinion: An Intrepid on steroids. The splitting into three is the nice feature here. Probably the equal of the Retrofitted Galaxt in battle.

Akira Class
(http://ditl.org/gpaf/GAkiGenral1.jpg)
Arnament:
3 Phaser Arrays
15 Torpedo Tubes
My Opinion: Looks nice, but too close the the Miranda and Nebula class ships. Powerful, and with a carrier capacity. Bit light on phaser power though.

Retrofitted Galaxy Class
(http://ditl.org/gpns/GRefitEnt3.jpg)
(http://ditl.org/gpns/GRefitEnt1.jpg)
Sorry about the two pics, had to get a view of both the modifications.
Arnament: (Note: Speculation)
1 Heavy Phaser Cannon
16 Phaser Arrays
3 Torpedo Tubes
My Opinion: That phaser makes the ship worthwhile, and is a very good compliment to the transphasic torpedos. Pierces the shields of enemies easily. Also, a nice set of phasers. In addition, it mounts a cloaking device.

All information and pics from the Daystrom Institute Technical Library (http://www.ditl.org).

EDIT: Forgot the cloaking device.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on July 01, 2002, 10:50:46 am: Quote
Originally posted by Thunder
Aren't you people assuming that they'll make another Trek movie in that time span? As it's been pointed out the stories of DS9 and Voyager have found a conclusion, so they'd have to step back to the Enterprise era, and you can forget your high-tech stuff there!
Yes, but Enterprise would still be making episodes. ~3-4 years from now = 4th or 5th season, and all the other Trek series other than TOS have run 7 seasons.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on July 01, 2002, 07:59:56 pm: :bump:
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Post by: Thorn on July 01, 2002, 08:05:59 pm: My fav ship would have to be the Defiant... tough little bugger.. especially with that ablaitive armor...
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Post by: Warlock on July 01, 2002, 08:37:41 pm: Akira's are nice ...but no way are they Enterprise nice.

IF they made a new movie or series and did up a "F" in the line ...and they stick true to current form..it would be a completely new design..as nearly each Enterprise was.

As for ending the movies ...I don't see a logical reason...the ST movies STILL bring in a fortune.
Title: Star Trek: Nemesis
Post by: Grey Wolf on July 01, 2002, 09:22:38 pm: Unless they did the original -> A thing.....
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Post by: an0n on July 01, 2002, 09:37:30 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Thunder
As it's been pointed out the stories of DS9 and Voyager have found a conclusion,

*cough*Sisko*cough*

The Dominion had allies and not all of them will have wanted to surrender. The Sonaa (sp?) spring to mind but there will have been dozens of allied races. They could have them being wiped out by the Klingons and trying to take revenge by blowing up DS9 or destroying Bajor and in swoops Sisko and his 1/4 Prophet children.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on July 01, 2002, 09:43:02 pm: I just had an interesting idea.....
An ensemble movie....
The TNG cast, the DS9 cast, and the Voyager cast in one movie....
Kicking the ass of the Dominion, who has come back for revenge....
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Post by: an0n on July 01, 2002, 09:46:55 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
I just had an interesting idea.....
An ensemble movie....
The TNG cast, the DS9 cast, and the Voyager cast in one movie....
Kicking the ass of the Dominion, who has come back for revenge....
Odo 0wnz the Dominion. No chance of the Founders attacking. But if Odo went all soft and got them to see that using the Jem Hadar was wrong, they could rebel against the soppy new ways and go on a rampage. Or some subjugated species could wreak havok once freed from Dominion rule.

OOOOOhhhh!!!!!!! Borg-Dominion war. Then you'd be able to pull in Voyager (for Borg fighting), DS9 (duh, Borg get through wormhole and BOOOOM) and TNG (flagship kicks ass).
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Post by: Grey Wolf on July 01, 2002, 09:53:50 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
Odo 0wnz the Dominion. No chance of the Founders attacking. But if Odo went all soft and got them to see that using the Jem Hadar was wrong, they could rebel against the soppy new ways and go on a rampage. Or some subjugated species could wreak havok once freed from Dominion rule.

OOOOOhhhh!!!!!!! Borg-Dominion war. Then you'd be able to pull in Voyager (for Borg fighting), DS9 (duh, Borg get through wormhole and BOOOOM) and TNG (flagship kicks ass).
Good idea :D ST war movie....
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Post by: WarpStar on July 02, 2002, 01:28:22 am: Quote
Originally posted by Thunder
A generations final voyage? What are they doing next...DS9?

Ah well, it does look kick ass... some interesting ground based action as well as the space combat and so on (though those buggies look to human for my liking... they're aliens aren't they?). Either way, it looks suitably dark and moody. Perhaps it'll be good :)

Hey Thunder, you've gotten into Jedi Knight(obviously :) ) Have you gotten a chance to play multiplayer yet?

As for Nemesis, It'll be a patient wait, as production has already fallen behind a few times. I'm still looking forward to it.
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Post by: TheCelestialOne on July 02, 2002, 01:51:21 am: Best ships in ST :

(http://www.staryards.com/Downloads/Ships/Federation/3_TNG/Promethius/3d_prometheus.jpg)

(http://www.staryards.com/Downloads/Ships/Federation/3_TNG/Promethius/armada_promethius.jpg)

Prometheus class

(http://www.staryards.com/Downloads/Ships/Federation/3_TNG/Soulwolf/BC_soulworlf.jpg)

(http://www.staryards.com/Downloads/Ships/Federation/3_TNG/Soulwolf/SFC_Soulwolf.jpg)

Soulwolf class

As you can see I like triangular designs.
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Post by: Fineus on July 02, 2002, 03:00:14 am: Where's the Soulwolf class from? Looks pretty modern but kinda small at the same time...
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Post by: TheCelestialOne on July 02, 2002, 04:58:57 am: Where its from? Star Trek :D... Its a costum ship. Its a assault ship about ¾ the size of a Intrepid class vessel (USS Voyager).
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Post by: Shrike on July 02, 2002, 05:33:50 am: Quote
Originally posted by Warlock
Akira's are nice ...but no way are they Enterprise nice.

IF they made a new movie or series and did up a "F" in the line ...and they stick true to current form..it would be a completely new design..as nearly each Enterprise was.

As for ending the movies ...I don't see a logical reason...the ST movies STILL bring in a fortune.
No way, Akira's are the ****! They're like the coolest ST ship for looks, right next to the Sabers.
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Post by: NeoHunter on July 02, 2002, 06:56:02 am: Where did the Soulwolf come from??? Never heard of it in any Star Trek episodes or movies.

Looks like the producers are stealing ideas from Imperial Star Destroyers.:D
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Post by: TheCelestialOne on July 02, 2002, 07:16:02 am: Its a MOD for ST:BC, ST:Armada and ST:KA. :D :D I use it in BC. It ROCKS!
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Post by: NeoHunter on July 02, 2002, 07:24:15 am: Screenshots???:)

*Make sure you post small thumbnails first. Like 120 X 80 pixels*
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Post by: TheCelestialOne on July 02, 2002, 07:31:43 am: Quote
Originally posted by TheCelestialOne
(http://www.staryards.com/Downloads/Ships/Federation/3_TNG/Soulwolf/BC_soulworlf.jpg)

(http://www.staryards.com/Downloads/Ships/Federation/3_TNG/Soulwolf/SFC_Soulwolf.jpg)

Soulwolf class

These ARE screenshots :D

First one » BC
Second one » SFC (Starfleet Command)
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Post by: NeoHunter on July 02, 2002, 07:53:57 am: Quote
Originally posted by TheCelestialOne

These ARE screenshots :D

First one » BC
Second one » SFC (Starfleet Command)

Oops!!! Hee...sorry.:D
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Post by: TheCelestialOne on July 02, 2002, 07:56:51 am: They look good don't they?
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Post by: Fineus on July 02, 2002, 08:01:01 am: One of those was in Bridge Commander? Wow, the graphics really are true to the series.
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Post by: TheCelestialOne on July 02, 2002, 08:04:30 am: To get those kind of graphics you'll have to use the heaviest graphics settings along with a heavy vid card.

My comp does reach those graphics, though :D:D:D:D:D:D!
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Post by: Stunaep on July 02, 2002, 08:05:09 am: well the Next Generations movies were always the best ones (forget about Wrath of Khan and the last NG movie, whose name I don't want to remember).

Stupid e-cafe though, can't view the trailer. Screenshots anyone?
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Post by: TheCelestialOne on July 02, 2002, 08:08:16 am: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep
well the Next Generations movies were always the best ones (forget about Wrath of Khan and the last NG movie, whose name I don't want to remember).

Stupid e-cafe though, can't view the trailer. Screenshots anyone?

I thought Wrath of Kahn was TOS...
Title: Star Trek: Nemesis
Post by: Unknown Target on July 02, 2002, 08:08:24 am: I've got an idea: How about they clone Kirk!
Title: Star Trek: Nemesis
Post by: Unknown Target on July 02, 2002, 08:08:55 am: Quote
Originally posted by TheCelestialOne

I thought Wrath of Kahn was TOS...

Yea, it is, don't believe him:D
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Post by: Styxx on July 02, 2002, 08:12:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
No way, Akira's are the ****! They're like the coolest ST ship for looks, right next to the Sabers.

True, true.
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Post by: Stunaep on July 02, 2002, 08:15:06 am: Quote
Originally posted by TheCelestialOne

I thought Wrath of Kahn was TOS...

I meant WoK being better than any NG movies and the last TNG movie (Resurrection??? sumfing??? Uprising??? Recession??? The Parlimainet???, right Insurrection!!!) was the worst of 'em all, not counting the voyage home.
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Post by: Fineus on July 02, 2002, 08:18:55 am: Are you insane? The Voyage Home was a classic film of all time - let alone one of the good Star Trek films. Alright it pretty much abandoned space all together but the story, humor and acting kicked ass.
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Post by: Stunaep on July 02, 2002, 08:25:01 am: fine, fine, I'll choose Insurrection, if it means I won't be banned. Actually I'll choose Insurrection anyway. I just feel, Star Trek should be... about going where no man etc. not about.. eh... looking for whales in the 20th century.
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Post by: Fineus on July 02, 2002, 08:28:07 am: Lol, I won't ban you for it dude - don't worry :)
Anyways, I see what you mean in so far that it deviates from your average experience of a Star Trek film. But as a film on it's own it's really very good.

I never liked Star Trek 5, not sure why...
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Post by: Styxx on July 02, 2002, 09:01:35 am: The Voyage Home ruled. Spock acting as a hippie or whatever was just freaking hilarious - that one proved that you don't need huge space battles or truckloads of fancy effects to have a great sci-fi movie.

And let's not talk about ST:V. I just want to forget I ever watched that thing... :D
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Post by: Thorn on July 02, 2002, 10:10:54 am: First Contact was my favorite. It had a little bit of everything in it.
Seeing Troi pass out drunk was amusing. Worf was cool in it too.. "Assimilate this" *BOOM*
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Post by: Unknown Target on July 02, 2002, 10:12:00 am: Star Trek 2, 4 and 6 were the best.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on July 02, 2002, 10:56:58 am: Quote
Originally posted by Thorn
First Contact was my favorite. It had a little bit of everything in it.
Seeing Troi pass out drunk was amusing. Worf was cool in it too.. "Assimilate this" *BOOM*
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Post by: Unknown Target on July 02, 2002, 11:02:23 am: First contact was probably the best TNG movie out of all of them.
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Post by: Styxx on July 02, 2002, 11:05:16 am: Well, FC was indeed the best TNG movie, but The Wrath of Khan rules all. Come on, it has the best space battle ever, and one of the coolest villains ever created...
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Post by: Fineus on July 02, 2002, 11:06:32 am: Amen.
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Post by: Ryx on July 02, 2002, 11:26:13 am: Insurrection... not the best, but not the worst either. Somewhere in the middle, sounds about right to me.
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Post by: IceFire on July 02, 2002, 11:48:07 am: Thats because their Polaron weapons were damned good at going partially through Federation shielding. So...all of those Alpha Quadrant ships were taking hull hits alot of the time.

Transphasic torpedoes are fun and Ablative Hull Armor is even cooler :)
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Post by: Ace on July 02, 2002, 02:07:00 pm: STII, then VI, IV for the humor, ST: TMP because of the art direction

On the next gen movies the only one of note is First Contact.

Styxx is absolutely right, Wrath of Khan has the best damn space battle ever ;)
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Post by: Warlock on July 02, 2002, 06:38:19 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
No way, Akira's are the ****! They're like the coolest ST ship for looks, right next to the Sabers.

Yea it looks great. But size and configuration wise she's no flapship for all of Starfleet.

And the Saber ? It's like the YT-1300 of startrek :D

Small...fast...with a nasty sting.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on July 02, 2002, 06:38:54 pm: Speaking of ST, I just downloaded the Galaxy Dreadnought Refit for Bridge Commander. :eek2: Beautiful.....
And EXTREMELY powerful.....
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Post by: an0n on July 02, 2002, 06:52:48 pm: First Contact for one simple reason:
"REPORT!"
"Main power's offline, we've lost shields and our weapons are gone."
"Perhaps today is a good day to die. PREPARE FOR RAMMING SPEED!"
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Post by: Dan1 on July 03, 2002, 10:37:22 pm: First of all, for future shows or movies have we forgotten about species 8472???? ?

Or how about when the 2 Q's duel on Voyager, the Q (everyone knows) said that Starfleet isn't supposed to be out in the Delta Quadrent for another century?

Or how about this the Preservers come back or a new artifact found :

Like in the book of Federation written by Judith & Garfield Reeves
Here's an excerpt

The ship moves through domains of space unimagined by Cochrane, powered by engines incomprehensible to Scott or La Forge. But all three engineers would recognize it's destination, deep within the voids between galaxies.

The captain of the ships holds up her hand to the main bridge view wall and with her thumb bolts out the Milky Way as it recedes from her , sidewarp factor 55.

"Beacon signal converging as predicted," her data officer announces. "Dropping to warp speed." the ship slows to a relative crawl as the main viewer switches to the forward scan. Against a sprinkling of distant galaxies, one blue beacon stands out as the ship closes. "Moving to sublight ....and relative stop."

The ship hangs tens of milllions of light-years from any star, from any matter larger than a grain of dust, except for a slilver of structure dead ahead, the structure whose presence was made known to them by sidespace radio after the final inauguration ceremony and all spacefaring cultures in the Milky Way had been joined in one grand Federation. That so the current theory went, had been the trigger for the invitation.

The translator tanks identify markings on the side of the structure as consistent wit similar markings recorded on so-called Preserver artifacts. The Cochrane delta is there among them. Science tanks confirm that the radiation signature is consistent with postulated controlled-access corridors to multiple universes. The Captain shakes her head in amazement. "Multiple Universes" she says to her data officer, the words, the entire concept still unreal to her. "Do we accept the invitation captain?"

The captain stares into the beckoning doorway of the silver structure between the galaxies, contemplating an infinite ocean of time and space into which life could expand, its fate no longer tied to a single world, a single galaxy, or now, even a single universe.

"Helm, full ahead," she orders. "Lets see what's on the other side." Like another explorer centuries before her, who stood on the brink of an equal adventure, her eyes blur with tears even as she laughs, the reason for either response a mystery to her, rooted deep in that which makes her human.
In the language of the time, the ship is called ENTERPRISE, and she slides forward, accepting the invitation, once more going where none have gone before.

For even here, even now, the adventure is still just beginning...

See, there's room for imagination in this...

:yes: :yes:
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Post by: Grey Wolf on July 09, 2002, 07:31:29 pm: They've released the first poster. Is it just me or is that Picard?
(http://www.startrek.com/content/photo/star_trek_nemesis_teaser.jpg)
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Post by: Carl on July 10, 2002, 12:10:49 am: just you.
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Post by: Fineus on July 10, 2002, 01:54:55 am: I hope that's not a Romulan... it looks way to... colorful.
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Post by: vyper on July 10, 2002, 06:21:31 am: Hehe...
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Lets not spoil the plot now. :D

Edit: That dagger looks decidedly Klingon
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Post by: Stryke 9 on July 10, 2002, 03:59:04 pm: In honor of this event/release/catastrophe/anticipation/post I am declaring today No Pants Day.

Actually, I declared that in advance yesterday, but you can never have too much of a good thing.

I love summer vacation.
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Post by: Warlock on July 10, 2002, 04:46:18 pm: :wtf:

Please sir....put down the crack and step AWAY from the pipe.
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Post by: vyper on July 10, 2002, 06:14:10 pm: If its no pants day I don't think its that crack you should be worried about
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Post by: Sandwich on May 29, 2003, 06:42:08 pm: Bump, and no, I don't care how long it's been. :D

Just saw the movie for the first time. They never released it here, so I had to wait for the DVD. :hopping:

ANYway... I'll have to sleep on it, but my first reaction was that, ignoring the plethora of plot holes, it was a decent movie. Not quite as good as most even-numbered ST movies have tended to be, but definitely better than the odd-numbered ones. :p

I liked how they didn't skimp on space battle shots... "We've exhausted our supply of photon torpedoes, sir!" :lol:

B4.... oy vey - bad sense of humor. :rolleyes: :p

Was it just me or did they decline to explain all those telepathic abilities that the viceroy had? And what's with the Remans?? They're supposed to be Romulans!

......aren't they? :confused:
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Post by: Martinus on May 29, 2003, 07:01:15 pm: [color=66ff00]Actually I though that movie was quite excellent. :nod:
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Post by: neo_hermes on May 29, 2003, 07:06:00 pm: I believe the remans are the original inhabitants of the system. while the romulans coming from vulcan "invaded" with their superior telepahic abilities and dominanted the remans.
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Post by: Knight Templar on May 29, 2003, 07:15:42 pm: The movie itself was good, but as a part of the ST timeline and a possible ending for the TNG series, I sucked.

Felt waay too much like a double episode, introducing a bunch of new people for no reason other than to kill them.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on May 29, 2003, 08:22:36 pm: Sandwich, an explanation for the plot holes: The movie was originally longer. But it was too long and the action was slow. So they released what is pretty much a condensed version, cutting a lot of fluff, but also some stuff which I feel was pretty important to the plot.
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Post by: Mr Carrot on May 29, 2003, 08:23:57 pm: Does the dvd have it all edited in or is it seperate?
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Post by: Grey Wolf on May 29, 2003, 08:26:49 pm: Not sure. I have it sitting right next to me, but I haven't watched it yet. I got all the stuff in my last post from an article.
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Post by: Hunter on May 30, 2003, 03:18:27 am: When I saw it the first time, I was confused. Probably because it had so many errors and plot-holes, I couldn't think straight. Second time around on DVD It grew on me some more. Apart from the holes and DELETED scenes (that would've MADE the movie far better!) it's not that bad. The Battles are also very sweet, and there was some nice moments - Those including the Wedding, the Planet Chase (as stupid as it was), the Romulans getting owned and Data saying "Goodbye" *sniff*

I also liked the look on Picards face when the Romulans showed up. Was a really tense moment, especially with the synth and ambient "engine" sound - Just something about that little moment that was dark, sadly they we're there to help :P

The possibily of another Trek movie is almost zero, but I think there is a new possibilty with Enterprise. Enterprise is set to finish before the Romulan Wars, after it's Seven-Year run (if It gets one). So unless it goes over seven years, a movie based in/around the Romulan Wars would be great, no? With the right kind of direction, writing, drama and specials - Would be like a B5 movie ;-)
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Post by: TrashMan on May 30, 2003, 03:22:52 am: DON'T LIKE IT!
- Data dies!
- They still use the Sovereign!
- The Remulans!
-The feel of the movie is not trekky!:hopping:
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Post by: Hunter on May 30, 2003, 05:20:56 am: Nothing wrong with the Sovereign !
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Post by: Tiara on May 30, 2003, 07:30:26 am: Quote
Originally posted by TrashMan
- Data dies!

Spoiler:
And a new data arrives, with all the memories of the original data.
Hence the possibilty of sequels. :D (which will be made if there is sufficient demand. Thats what Patrick Stewart said anyway)
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Post by: Styxx on May 30, 2003, 07:45:14 am: Data dying was a demand from Brent Spinner. He said that he'd only participate in the movie if Data died, since he thought that he's too old to keep playing the character (considering that Data isn't supposed to age).
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Post by: Sandwich on May 30, 2003, 07:55:52 am: Quote
Originally posted by Styxx
Data dying was a demand from Brent Spinner. He said that he'd only participate in the movie if Data died, since he thought that he's too old to keep playing the character (considering that Data isn't supposed to age).

...and so in a fit of mischeiviousness (sp?), Paramount or whomever wrote in ANOTHER Data for him to play! Classic! :lol:
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Post by: Tiara on May 30, 2003, 07:57:18 am: Quote
Originally posted by Styxx
Data dying was a demand from Brent Spinner. He said that he'd only participate in the movie if Data died, since he thought that he's too old to keep playing the character (considering that Data isn't supposed to age).

But then why did he get another role as a Data clone? Besides having an android age is quite easily explained. Especially with the wide spectrum of imaginary theories like in ST.

And it were P. Stewart's words that ST:TNG might have another sequel ;)
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Post by: silverwolf on May 30, 2003, 08:03:29 am: my most funniest moment in that movie is when the clone of data asks picard"Why do you have a shiny head?"
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Post by: Tiara on May 30, 2003, 08:08:10 am: Quote
Originally posted by silverwolf
my most funniest moment in that movie is when the clone of data asks picard"Why do you have a shiny head?"

Nah, when Worf is too shy to come to the Betazoid wedding :D
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Post by: Styxx on May 30, 2003, 08:09:42 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara
But then why did he get another role as a Data clone? Besides having an android age is quite easily explained. Especially with the wide spectrum of imaginary theories like in ST.

Actually, it's not, since Data already is really old (isn't he).

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And it were P. Stewart's words that ST:TNG might have another sequel ;)

Yes, it might have, but I don't think we'll have Data in it.
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Post by: silverwolf on May 30, 2003, 08:13:02 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

Nah, when Worf is too shy to come to the Betazoid wedding :D

nah worf and the romulan ale
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Post by: Tiara on May 30, 2003, 08:19:13 am: Quote
Originally posted by silverwolf

nah worf and the romulan ale

Ah, yes :D That was comedy :p
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Post by: Hunter on May 30, 2003, 10:11:17 am: "Why does the tall man have a furry face?" ;)
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Post by: NeoHunter on May 30, 2003, 10:26:48 am: Quote
Originally posted by Hunt Smacker
"Why does the tall man have a furry face?" ;)

What tall man?
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Post by: Hunter on May 30, 2003, 10:29:25 am: Not seen that bit I take it?
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Post by: diamondgeezer on May 30, 2003, 11:37:49 am: Quote
Originally posted by Styxx
Actually, it's not, since Data already is really old (isn't he).

Which bit of him? His head's a lot older than his body, don't forget...

<--- Star Trek geek in denial
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Post by: kasperl on May 30, 2003, 12:59:28 pm: Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer

Which bit of him? His head's a lot older than his body, don't forget...

oh yes, now i remember, that TNG episode with those wierd alines and that alking cane with the snakehead?
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Post by: Hunter on May 30, 2003, 01:42:38 pm: And the bit when he targeted the Enterprise's Bridge. That was a nice scene, reminds me of the old Kirk days. ;)
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Post by: Grey Wolf on May 31, 2003, 09:47:42 pm: What'd be nice might be an ensemble cast. Considering the fact that the TNG cast has been fragmented (Riker and Troi to Titan, Data to random atoms scattered over a light year, Crusher to Starfleet Medical), the DS9 crew was broken up, and at least Janeway broke away from rest of the Voyager crew, an ensemble cast could be composed between the three of them.

And as a side note, does B-4 at the end remind anyone else of Data back in "Encounter at Farpoint"?
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Post by: Sandwich on June 01, 2003, 01:03:54 am: Quote
Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
And as a side note, does B-4 at the end remind anyone else of Data back in "Encounter at Farpoint"?
:nod:
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Post by: Tiara on June 01, 2003, 04:43:23 am: Quote
Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
What'd be nice might be an ensemble cast. Considering the fact that the TNG cast has been fragmented (Riker and Troi to Titan, Data to random atoms scattered over a light year, Crusher to Starfleet Medical), the DS9 crew was broken up, and at least Janeway broke away from rest of the Voyager crew, an ensemble cast could be composed between the three of them.

If they put Janeway in command I'll go crazy. She's worse then Picard when it comes to the Prime Directive. I vot this crew:

Captain: Sisko (At least he isn't afraid to kick ass)
#1: 7past9 (Some Borg influence is always good)
Tactical: Worf (Always)
Science: Tuvok (Wanna see him work together with Worf :p)
Helm: A new character would be nice here...... Romulan would be best ;7
Doctor: Doctor from Voy
Chief Engeneering: O'Brien
Security: Odo

And no friggin betazoids or ferengies!
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Post by: Zeronet on June 01, 2003, 06:07:33 am: Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
Bump, and no, I don't care how long it's been. :D

Just saw the movie for the first time. They never released it here, so I had to wait for the DVD. :hopping:

ANYway... I'll have to sleep on it, but my first reaction was that, ignoring the plethora of plot holes, it was a decent movie. Not quite as good as most even-numbered ST movies have tended to be, but definitely better than the odd-numbered ones. :p

I liked how they didn't skimp on space battle shots... "We've exhausted our supply of photon torpedoes, sir!" :lol:

B4.... oy vey - bad sense of humor. :rolleyes: :p

Was it just me or did they decline to explain all those telepathic abilities that the viceroy had? And what's with the Remans?? They're supposed to be Romulans!

......aren't they? :confused:

They did skimp on the battle, only three ships were in it.
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Post by: Hunter on June 01, 2003, 07:25:51 am: ^^

Yeah It's almost like you would think they never fought in the Dominion War !
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Post by: Tiara on June 01, 2003, 07:36:44 am: Quote
Originally posted by Hunt Smacker
the Dominion War !

*nostalgic sigh*

Those were the times.... Massive battles, political intrigue... ahhh yes, the wonders of DS9 :p

DS9 was IMO certainly the best ST series :D Probably cause its on a station and not on a ship. That makes it more epic like B5.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on June 01, 2003, 07:43:41 am: I liked the way Damar developed over, like, five or six seasons of DS9. He started out as an ingratiating little git, Dukat's *****, but ended up as the hero saviour of Cardassia. Good for him.
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Post by: kasperl on June 01, 2003, 07:50:15 am: Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
I liked the way Damar developed over, like, five or six seasons of DS9. He started out as an ingratiating little git, Dukat's *****, but ended up as the hero saviour of Cardassia. Good for him.

wasn't Damat the one who shot Zyal? (Dukat's daughter)

i'm currently watching the daily DS9 reruns on dutch TV, we just had that episode where O'Brien timeshifts
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Post by: Hunter on June 01, 2003, 07:59:08 am: So many despised DS9 for its "Standing still" slang given to it. And that sucks, because DS9 was literally the BEST of all Trek series, with a few exceptions - It had all the great feelings of Babylon 5, with state-of-the art effects and sets to boot. It had tension between every character at some point during the show. It had some of the best storylines and arcs of any sci-fi. The DVDs of DS9 are coming out , and I've been watching them - And really enjoying them, appreciating just how great it really was. Boy do I love Garak, Kira, Quark, Odo ! hehe !
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Post by: Tiara on June 01, 2003, 08:01:56 am: Quark & Odo :D They were just too funny :p Also Garak was intruiging. He always gave you something to think about.

But yes, I must agree that at certain moments there were just filler episodes. But even those could have an effect on the cgaracters/story later on. I mean, certain events that happened 3 seasons ago could still come back.
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Post by: Hunter on June 01, 2003, 08:19:30 am: Or Rom. LOL ! Er.. ..Er... Er... I dunno.. ;)
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Post by: Corhellion on June 01, 2003, 10:51:34 am: I just watched it last night (stayed up till 12:00 to watch it!)

Best graphics in a ST movie I've seen yet!

Scimitar warbird :eek::yes: wicked ship!

2 nit-picks though...

1: How can the Scimitar fire while cloaked? I know the klingon "BOP" in ST:VI could fire while cloaked...but...how does it fire while cloaked...hmmm...

2: Is it just me or did the Ent: E get repaired REALLY fast. I mean it got banged up pretty good, but how could it be repaired in such a short period of time!

I'd like to see the Scimitar in FS2...that'd be cool...
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Shivan 1: Hey Bob!

Shivan 2: What?

Shivan 1: Take a look at this thing man!

Shivan 2: I'm busy...man...stay still! It doesn't hurt that much does it!

Shivan 1: Bob...quite playing with your food!

Shivan 2: *looks at the Scimitar decloaking* Whoa...can we do that?

Shivan 1: Um...*looks in the Sathanas Drivers Manual*...nope...but it says here, that we can cause a "temperal-subspace-solar cascade".

Shivan 2: Who cares, I want a disappearing/reappearing ship!

Shivan 1: ...You can't have one...but, you can have my left-over headz

Shivan 2: Screw the ship! GIMME!!!
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Um...sorry...bored...heh...um...Look over there!

*runs*
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Post by: Admiral LSD on June 01, 2003, 11:33:30 am: Quote
Originally posted by Corhellion
1: How can the Scimitar fire while cloaked? I know the klingon "BOP" in ST:VI could fire while cloaked...but...how does it fire while cloaked...hmmm...

Look closely, it's doesn't just have one cloaking device, but several. When it fires, it decloaks the part of the ship that it's firing from.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on June 01, 2003, 01:50:06 pm: Let's see available captains:
Archer: Probably has been dead for a few centuries.
Kirk: Dead (ignore his books)
Picard: Still active-duty
Sisko: Didn't he enter the wormhole to hang out with the prophets or something?
Janeway: Admiral, so no missions for her

I'd say the captain would have to be Picard then. I'd like to see Spock on there, maybe 7 of 9, and throw in Scotty as Chief Engineer, and put O'Brian back in his old job: Transporter Chief :p
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Post by: Visionism on June 01, 2003, 01:59:00 pm: Wow. Discussing the same Star Trek movie for nearly a whole year. And to think there are people who wonder why they never get a second date.

Seriously though, looking at that list isnlt it odd that the only one to have gotten a promotion to flag rank is the one who managed to lose her ship and crew on their maiden voyage and basically never really achieved much?

Starfleet is obviously run along the same guidelines as the British Army
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Post by: Admiral LSD on June 01, 2003, 02:06:47 pm: Kirk got promoted to Admiral but he destroyed the Enterprise, killed a bunch of Klingons and disobeyed direct orders (to stay away from Earth) and so was demoted back to Captain.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on June 01, 2003, 02:19:20 pm: Picard was offered a promotion to Admiral and Commandant of Starfleet Academy back in the first or second season, but turned it down in favor of staying on as the Captain of the Enterprise.
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Post by: Tiara on June 01, 2003, 03:06:24 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Picard was offered a promotion to Admiral and Commandant of Starfleet Academy back in the first or second season, but turned it down in favor of staying on as the Captain of the Enterprise.

Yeah, and I don't blame him :p As a starship captain you can gain far more prestige and is more fun as well :p
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Post by: Sandwich on June 01, 2003, 04:41:29 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Visionism
Wow. Discussing the same Star Trek movie for nearly a whole year. And to think there are people who wonder why they never get a second date.

Meh - there was at least a full year break - besides, blame Paramount for forcing me to having to wait until the DVD came out before seeing it. :hopping:
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Post by: diamondgeezer on June 01, 2003, 04:52:33 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Picard was offered a promotion to Admiral and Commandant of Starfleet Academy back in the first or second season, but turned it down in favor of staying on as the Captain of the Enterprise.

Yes, and we all know what the guys who offered Picard the promotion were up to. Good job he turned them down, no?
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Post by: Zeronet on June 01, 2003, 04:53:29 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Visionism

Starfleet is obviously run along the same guidelines as the British Army

:rolleyes: :wtf: :blah: :wtf: :rolleyes: :hopping::wtf: :rolleyes: :blah:
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Post by: Grey Wolf on June 01, 2003, 05:08:58 pm: I feel they should have kept some of those deleted scenes in the movie. Would have added a bit more to the storyline, making it seem finished.
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Post by: Admiral LSD on June 02, 2003, 10:38:44 pm: But then they wouldn't have all that much to put in the "Deleted Scenes" section of the DVD ;)
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Post by: NeoHunter on June 03, 2003, 06:59:39 am: Well, I think it doesn't really matter that much to most of us whether there are deleted scenes in the movie or not. We are just aiming for the movie on the DVD. That's all.:D
Title: Star Trek: Nemesis
Post by: NeoHunter on June 03, 2003, 06:59:39 am: Well, I think it doesn't really matter that much to most of us whether there are deleted scenes in the movie or not. We are just aiming for the movie on the DVD. That's all.:D
Title: Star Trek: Nemesis
Post by: Admiral LSD on June 03, 2003, 12:13:21 pm: Tell that to the studios who insist on littering the DVDs with all that extra crap, even to the point of wasting whole discs on it...