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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: MP-Ryan on April 09, 2013, 02:11:43 pm
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http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2013/04/09/sexual_assault_case_involving_four_female_suspects_a_bizarre_anomaly.html
They could be sex molls or sex maulers.
Definitely on the chubby side, though: described as around 190 to 200 pounds and five-foot-four.
Last seen teetering around in high heels and short black dresses — typical clubbing attire — their estimated age 30 to 36, so not cougars on the prowl.
A quartet of ladies, wanted in connection with the sexual assault of a 19-year-old male.
What the women are alleged to have done to this young man is unclear and won’t be clarified unless, perhaps, the incident ever comes to trial. The victim has declined to be interviewed, in a Star request relayed by Toronto police.
A news release issued by police doesn’t specify whether this event would be classified as sexual assault 1, 2, or 3, which is the spectrum range for severity. It sounds like sexual assault 1, however, because there was no weapon used and the victim does not appear to have suffered significant bodily harm.
Of course, one man’s sexual assault is another man’s sexual fantasy come true.
The worst part? The author says further along that she was writing this piece with a straight face. This **** is unbelievable. As if male victims of sexual assault don't face enough stigma without being openly mocked by journalists who apparently think it's funny that a man dare feel sexual contact was unwanted.
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Jesus **** (http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-barf.gif)
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That's pretty despicable behavior on the part of the journalist there, it's almost as though she's assuming men would enjoy being sexually assaulted. Pity there's no feedback on that column.
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I tried picking out a particularly reprehensible passage to quote but I had a stroke and now I'm dead. Thanks
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I would encourage everyone who visits the page to click the "report an error" button at the top. There's a complaint option in the drop-down box. I already sent one. I also sent this piece to another Canadian news agency that might be interested in reporting how their journalistic comrade is a ****nut.
Reading that article just about made me fall off my chair; I was that angry.
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Gender equality when reporting rape is like a needle in a nebula. The lack of professionalism on that page only tells me one thing, that woman needs to be fired as soon as possible.
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That article was just as horrible to women as men. It literally advocated the 'deal with it' approach to getting groped whether you were a man or a woman. (I have submitted a complaint)
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That article was just as horrible to women as men. It literally advocated the 'deal with it' approach to getting groped whether you were a man or a woman. (I have submitted a complaint)
Yup. There were themes of "asking for it" in there as well, along with other bits that alluded to the "should have just enjoyed it" bull**** as well.
Words cannot convey how angry that "journalist" has made me. Sexual assault in general is horribly under-reported, and male victims are even LESS likely to report. This article just reinforces all of the stereotypes that lead to under-reporting. FFS.
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I'm glad you called attention to this. They know next to nothing about this case, and they shouldn't be reporting it at all, instead, they're dressing it up like some sort of freak show or something, a curiosity for spectators.
Gender switch: Islamic attitude to women.
I would have posted the whole thing. I'm going to post the rest. Special attention to the next three paragraphs, but the whole thing really warrants a read. They're laughing it up. They even basically admit they're laughing it up, and this is the last thing men need to think that they could end up in a dirtsheet and have people laughing at them, the stigma is bad enough.
Here's the rest:
Around the assignment desk at this paper Monday, there were both chortles and priggish warnings not to play snide or mischievous with the slim facts as we know them. Mustn’t be seen to make light of an alleged sexual crime simply because the victim is a male, which would be reverse sexism and a double standard — men’s rights groups the first to pounce, no doubt — despite the obvious snickering quotient.
Sexual assault, you say? Lucky guy others say, nudge-nudge, a fivesome and didn’t even have to pay for it.
It allegedly happened a couple of weeks ago, a Saturday night, though only publicized by police this past weekend, the inference to be drawn that perhaps the victim pondered his options for a while, perchance needed some coaxing to report, or grew increasingly angry as the days passed.
According to police, the teenager met the suspects at a nightclub in the Entertainment District but — while investigators would like potential witnesses to come forward with any information they might possess — cops aren’t saying which nightclub, which seems self-defeating.
The teen left this no-name club with the ladies after they offered him a ride home. Instead he was driven to a parking lot near Queen St. W. and Spadina Ave., where he was allegedly sexually assaulted by all four of the dames. Afterwards he was released and the women took off in the silver Honda SUV.
Enquiring minds are eager to know what the heck befell this young man at the hands of his tormentors — one of whom, according to a newspaper report, apparently spoke with a British accent and had a tattoo on her neck. Already I’m jumping to certain conjectures about this doll crew: fat and butchy, maybe self-designated vigilantistas, depending on what had transpired with their target earlier, at the bar.
Sexual assault is no laughing matter — I’m writing this column with a straight face — though often taken way out of context on the statistics table; a pinch on the bottom can be equated to far more intrusive and traumatizing invasiveness of one’s personal space. Some “assaults’’ are merely unwanted touching, annoying for an adult woman but should be slapped down when they occur rather than directed to police. Eighty-one per cent of such assaults — those reported to police departments in Canada, according to the most recent figures I could find — fall into the unwanted touching zone.
We do instinctively think of sexual assault as something done to women by men because the stats bear that out: 90 per cent of victims are female and 99 per cent of the offenders are male.
These clubbing vamps are a bizarre anomaly, pack hunters in their getaway SUV — Thelma and Louise and Tiffany and Debi, four white chicks who may have gang-groped or otherwise molested a teenager because they didn’t have the balls to pick on, or pick up, a man their own age.
Wanted: Bad girls in black minidresses and stilettos, approach with caution.
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Jesus Christ. Somebody fire this *****.
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Reading at least the first half makes me think it's really bad journalism even without the gender discrimination.
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fat dominatrices <3
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I have also submitted a complaint. Not cool, this kind of stuff.
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That somebody wrote this in seriousness should not surprise me so greatly given some of the things that have been aired on national television in the states.
But.
Somebody wrote this.
In seriousness.
What the literal ****.
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Back to topic, I do think the complaints are useful, and I hope they retract the editorial, or change it substancially and give some apologies. "Firing the *****" is silly, everyone is entitled to make mistakes. Even women.
backlash at that last joke in 3..2...1.....
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i will tolerate women's mistakes if they make me a sandwich, bring me a beer, and give me a blowjob.
seriously i like how the split out bit continues to grow and this topic has been mostly ignored.
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I'd like to think that it's because we all agree with the fact that the article was stupid, inflammatory, and unacceptable, and that the meaning of words and / or their impacts upon societal groups is more interesting by far.
I'd like to think that.
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Back to topic, I do think the complaints are useful, and I hope they retract the editorial, or change it substancially and give some apologies. "Firing the *****" is silly, everyone is entitled to make mistakes. Even women.
backlash at that last joke in 3..2...1.....
While I agree that people are entitled to make mistakes and not receive the immediate termination of their employment, severity comes into play. This wasn't an accidental offense where the journalist made an unintentional inflammatory remark. This is blatant
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Indeed. In fact she made the comments despite being quite clearly aware that she shouldn't be doing so.
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Twitter is on a roll against this one:
https://twitter.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thestar.com%2Fnews%2Fcity_hall%2F2013%2F04%2F09%2Fsexual_assault_case_involving_four_female_suspects_a_bizarre_anomaly.html
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Twitter is on a roll against this one:
https://twitter.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thestar.com%2Fnews%2Fcity_hall%2F2013%2F04%2F09%2Fsexual_assault_case_involving_four_female_suspects_a_bizarre_anomaly.html
Ooooh, just lovely! :D
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I've got a feeling all our outrage will be swept under the carpet. Check this out, looks like our "friend" has previous:
http://o.canada.com/2013/01/21/toronto-star-columnist-rosie-dimanno-writes-a-sentence-that-shocks-readers-around-the-world/
That contains the problem and the editor's response. I want to call attention to this gem:
"I think DiManno’s writing overall shows sensitivity and empathy for victims of horrific crimes."
Oh my. That is too much...
Professional parasite.
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I'm going to have to go with the previously expressed sentiment that she should be sacked.
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i'm not sure how to read into this. is she that awful of a writer, or that awful of a person?
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I'm beginning to wonder if the only reason she has that job is because the bull**** gets them more views.
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I'm going to have to go with the previously expressed sentiment that she should be sacked.
If she doesn't, this whole situation is going to create a precedence which will allow every journalist employed by this company to be able to blatantly insult people in their articles
When it comes to firing people, it's not easy when you create scenarios where they get away with things they really shouldn't. Afterall, if you didn't fire her then, lawyers will have a field day when you try to fire her afterwards
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It's particularly interesting when you compare it with her attitude towards Male sexual predators...
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/04/05/sexual_sadist_at_18_raises_disturbing_questions.html
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Controversial topics lead to more visits, more advertising, profit. If anything, questionable articles help making money. I agree with watsisname.
Looks like journalists are learning a lot of things from Ryanair: there's no need for advertising, just say something stupid and you'll get a nice domino effect. :rolleyes:
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I suppose that's true
It all comes down to money
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So don't write to The Star, write to the companies advertising on their site. Or better still write to The Star and inform them that you're CC'ing this to companies that do so.
I'm sure whatever company is doing so doesn't want the massive negative publicity this would generate.
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i'm not sure how to read into this. is she that awful of a writer, or that awful of a person?
It says she's been with the company 38 years:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_DiManno
And authored several books, so her writing likely isn't the problem, and if she's been there so long, I don't think they're going to get rid of her. Probably won't even discipline her.
Perhaps pretty soon the editor will release another statement on this male sexual assault article, but since not only has she been there 38, but also said the people were laughing it up, I'd be most surprised if any action was taken.
Meanwhile, here's an interesting read:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2013/04/survivor-speaks-out-after-toronto-man-sexually-assault-mocked.html
Hopefully this won't go away quietly. I wonder who else has been mocking it, I saw someone say it earlier that he's the butt of jokes from other sources too. This is not a joke, sexual assault is not a joke, that man is not a joke.
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I've since posted a critique of the article on Google Plus and emailed it to CTV News and the University of Toronto Sexual Education centre. The more public shaming of this "journalist," the better. Looks like the story is starting to get picked up and broadcast, thank god.
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It's particularly interesting when you compare it with her attitude towards Male sexual predators...
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/04/05/sexual_sadist_at_18_raises_disturbing_questions.html
sorta like how i get sexually aroused every time north korea detonates a nuke.
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So do the people who expect males to always appreciate sexual attention expect men to always appreciate potentially getting STDs and/or having to pay child support as well?
Even leaving personal preferences and potential psychological damage out of the picture this whole proposition strikes me as just another way of saying all men are stupid and irresponsible lol.
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I've since posted a critique of the article on Google Plus and emailed it to CTV News and the University of Toronto Sexual Education centre. The more public shaming of this "journalist," the better. Looks like the story is starting to get picked up and broadcast, thank god.
Good. Would you mind sharing what you wrote?
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Hopefully this won't go away quietly. I wonder who else has been mocking it, I saw someone say it earlier that he's the butt of jokes from other sources too. This is not a joke, sexual assault is not a joke, that man is not a joke.
There's a terrible, terrible pun in there...
"The social stigma is that men can't be victims," said Masciangelo, who is part of an initiative called "Understanding and Responding to Male Sexual Victimization"
I wonder if the society who made the stigma what it is ever considered having a dildo rammed up their ass. I can't imagine it being anymore pleasant when it isn't warranted than a woman being in the same situation
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In addition to my, like, nine complaints (apparently futile) I've pointed some blogofriends at this ****.
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Here's an interesting read, with lots of links to others who have been sickened by the article, along with the letter she sent to the editors:
http://damsel-in-de-tech.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/a-canned-response-and-evidence-that-at.html
I'm glad to see people are not letting this rest.