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Title: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: providence932 on April 19, 2013, 01:50:47 pm
I've been spending the last few hours intentionally failing Universal Truth. Of all of the endings, one of them has me completely baffled. If you
Spoiler:
sit and wait at the beginning of the level, or turn around when told to run
Then you receive the ending
Spoiler:
We do not know how the subject managed to stabilize the pocket of subspace his exit trajectory carried him to. It appears that he passed through at least two separate meta-Hubble domains, configuring each one to the demands of his disintegrating psyche. Given what was observed in the domain he eventually occupied, we can only consider it a blessing that he did not successfully return to the launch point.

When the Shadow Guardians were inserted into the subject's exit point they immediately broke contact. We assumed that they had been subverted by the subject's unknown, nascent ontostatic capabilities.
However, at insertion plus fifty five hours, indirect observation of the subject's volume indicated total collapse and necrosis of the manifold, leading to the loss of the Shadow Guardians, the subject's stealth craft, and any data relating to the initial contact between the subject and the target volume.

This concluded the incident colloquially referred to as the Transcend. All further testing of the Sync drive as a means to conduct transdimensional travel was immediately halted by order of GTVI Subspace Systems Command, Special Projects Branch, and the target area was designated as anathema for any future transits, planned or accidental.

It is fortunate that the 14th's transit did not bring it there.

is someone there

can you hear me?

HELP ME


It's pretty obvious that the reccomendation text is from Laporte, who has been turned into a vegetable and is trapped inside of her own mind or... something. But this seems to take place in the future, under an operation under the control of the GTVA.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: BritishShivans on April 19, 2013, 02:01:39 pm
uhh no

there's several endings

for some reason I kept getting the transcend one all the time, namely this one

however i did not last time, i got one where Laporte said they need to turn up the heat on the Maysaf since ever since she's taken her skin off it's been so cold
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: providence932 on April 19, 2013, 02:06:10 pm
I just got the an ants one by remaining in the network at the very end of the mission.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: An4ximandros on April 19, 2013, 02:06:44 pm
Huh? What was your sanity meter's reading?
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: providence932 on April 19, 2013, 02:08:35 pm
Perfectly Fine :P
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: An4ximandros on April 19, 2013, 02:12:39 pm
 Lay off the Nagari-drug combo.

 Ahem. It sounds like there might be something wrong with the events? Unless there is some sort of trigger for each ending and the Transcend one is "default" (It is in the mission file twice as separate endings.)
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: General Battuta on April 19, 2013, 02:14:03 pm
There's nothing wrong the events. The ending you get when you go insane for any reason is selected randomly from a pool.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: providence932 on April 19, 2013, 02:18:18 pm
Yeah, that's why I started to get thanks to lots of time compression.

What I'm trying to is what exactly happens to Laporte during the ending that I quoted in the OP. It's very different when compared to the other endings, where she's woken up from the Nagari network and just goes nuts.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: An4ximandros on April 19, 2013, 02:24:27 pm
The random choice seems inappropriate when keeping the transcendent's ending in mind. And the visit by it.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: General Battuta on April 19, 2013, 02:33:13 pm
It works the way it does for a reason.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: providence932 on April 19, 2013, 02:39:03 pm
Is it technical or canonical?
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Delta_07 on April 19, 2013, 02:41:25 pm
And the reason may be "it's impossible to predict what Laporte will do/will go once she's insane"?
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: General Battuta on April 19, 2013, 02:43:43 pm
Canonical.

And the reason may be "it's impossible to predict what Laporte will do/will go once she's insane"?

This guy's on the right track. Causal mapping between the stimulus and the reaction would be, in the words of an earlier post, hugely inappropriate.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: providence932 on April 19, 2013, 02:48:08 pm
Awesome!

The only problem is that I'm completely confused with what this reaction is.

Quote
...since I cut my skin off

And the one in the OP are so radically different. I'm confused as to what exactly happens to Laporte when she meets that second ending for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Delta_07 on April 19, 2013, 02:52:19 pm
But, given her last sane events (e.g., staying at the end or taking too long, etc...), woult it be possible to "bias" Laporte's insane reactions?
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: providence932 on April 19, 2013, 03:00:54 pm
Apparently not, who knows what the entities running the Nagari network want to do with her after she's turned into a vegetable. Could be kill everyone in the room; forget everything that she's seen, tell her compadres nonsense, and then mutlate herself; turn into a vegetable; or possibly whatever happens in the ending that I quoted in the OP.

The latter, however, is very curious to me, and I want to investigate it fully.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: BritishShivans on April 19, 2013, 03:01:40 pm
Why do you think it'd be Laporte specifically? I always took the Transcend ending as just being that; Transcend. Hell, if you've even played it, while it's somewhat hard to tell, the Transcendent  says "help me" and some other stuff.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Molybdenum on April 20, 2013, 03:19:30 am
I think its just an easter egg since that mission was largely inspired by Transcend.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: perihelion on April 20, 2013, 06:53:13 pm
I think its just an easter egg since that mission was largely inspired by Transcend.
That would be disappointing, and it would seem inconsistent with the level of thought put into all of the other details in this mission/campaign/mod.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Gregster2k on April 20, 2013, 07:49:22 pm
@Everyone & OP: I don't think the OP (providence932) has played Sync or Transcend :nervous: -- Providence932, you should play  Sync (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Sync) and Transcend (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Transcend) ASAP to understand what that debriefing text was referencing.  They're great campaigns :)

There are six debriefings to this mission in total.  Interestingly, two are duplicates:

UNIVERSAL TRUTH (MISSION 23) DEBRIEFINGS EXTRACTED FROM FRED FILE (SPOILERS)

ENDING 1: Marathon Infinity Reference Ending - verbatim from an infamous lore terminal in Marathon Infinity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_Infinity)
Reference: http://marathon.bungie.org/story/wherearemonsters.html
Quote
Personal Log, Noemi Laporte

Seven hundred and sixty one armless and legless corpses float inconspicuously around the inside of hangar ninety six.  I say that they are inconspicuous because it is their arms and legs which demand my attention.  I did this, or I could have stopped it.  Which is it?  It doesn't matter now.  I did this and could have stopped it, but nothing in nature ever follows a gaussian curve.  Sure, they'll tell you that it does.  They say that every five minutes someone dies in a car accident, but how often are there seven hundred and sixty one armless and legless in one hangar?

Recommendation: You should cut your arms and legs off in order to pass this mission.

ENDING 2: Transcend Reference Ending - assuming to be written by BP team.  References Sync (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Sync) and Transcend (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Transcend) by Ransom Arceihn
Quote
We do not know how the subject managed to stabilize the pocket of subspace his exit trajectory carried him to. It appears that he passed through at least two separate meta-Hubble domains, configuring each one to the demands of his disintegrating psyche. Given what was observed in the domain he eventually occupied, we can only consider it a blessing that he did not successfully return to the launch point.

When the Shadow Guardians were inserted into the subject's exit point they immediately broke contact. We assumed that they had been subverted by the subject's unknown, nascent ontostatic capabilities.
However, at insertion plus fifty five hours, indirect observation of the subject's volume indicated total collapse and necrosis of the manifold, leading to the loss of the Shadow Guardians, the subject's stealth craft, and any data relating to the initial contact between the subject and the target volume.

This concluded the incident colloquially referred to as the Transcend. All further testing of the Sync drive as a means to conduct transdimensional travel was immediately halted by order of GTVI Subspace Systems Command, Special Projects Branch, and the target area was designated as anathema for any future transits, planned or accidental.

It is fortunate that the 14th's transit did not bring it there.

Recommendation:

is someone there

can you hear me?

HELP ME

ENDING 3: False Success Ending
Quote
Personal Log, Noemi Laporte

It's over. The intrusion into the Nagari network was successful. I don't remember a damn thing, but they tell me that it worked.

Recommendation: your gallbladder is dripping, please mop that up

ENDING 4: Ants
Quote
Personal Log, Noemi Laporte

I didn't realize the truth until they woke me up. Falconer was one of the ants. It was so obvious - I don't know how I missed the jaws, or the eggs dripping from her abdomen.

I had to kill her first. The rest of them were self-defense.

I think they're trying to get in again. It's all right, though. They won't be able to tell which one I am.

There was lots of surgical equipment in this room, and plenty of corpses to graft from. I'm sure they won't recognize this face, or the bones beneath it. I never looked a thing like Kovacs.

I hope I can get this tongue to stick in time.

Recommendation:

kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara kuwabara

ENDING 5: Transcend Reference Ending (Reprise)
this is the same as Ending 2, no need to quote this

ENDING 6: Mission Successful (Non Insane)
Quote
Congratulations, Operator. We brought you into the Fedayeen to complete this mission, and you have excelled beyond all expectation.

Analyst Thorn and the CASSANDRA unit have completed their review of your experience. These are their conclusions.

It appears that the Council of Elders has been in Nagari contact with the Vishnan aliens for decades. The Elders cooperated with the Vishnans in an effort to move humanity towards enlightenment - an unknown form of cognitive and social reengineering, perhaps culminating in merger with the Vishnan subspace psyche.

The GTVA discovered the Vishnans independently, and determined that these aliens posed a threat to human survival. Their invasion of Sol appears to be, in part, an effort to purge humanity of Vishnan-influenced leadership.

We do not object to the notion of cooperation with the Vishnans. However, it appears these aliens have determined their plan has failed and ordered the Shivans to annihilate mankind.

We must therefore consider the Elders compromised and untrustworthy. The information you retrieved from the Ken entity provides the only remaining option to escape extinction.

Fourteen minutes ago, the Elders requested that we turn you over for questioning. We have reported your unfortunate death during the Nagari intrusion.

Our priority for the moment remains victory against the GTVA. We will contact you once we have determined how the Ken entity can assist us - and what price we will pay to avert this existential catastrophe.

Your skills are needed on the front line. We are working with Admiral Calder to supply you with a covert identity and a squadron command. You will return to military service, but you will always remain Fedayeen.

The things you learned about me are true, Operator. I am all of the Fedayeen. And I am grateful.

Recommendation:

Personal Log, Noemi Laporte

The truth. Or a part of it. Extinction is coming, on Vishnan orders. And the Shivans are offering us a way out.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: An4ximandros on April 20, 2013, 08:45:28 pm
This is an endings thread. You don't need to mark spoilers, it's in the title! :p

 If we consider the ending as canonically possible, from your list & the Trans ending:
Quote
We do not know how the subject managed to stabilize the pocket of subspace his exit trajectory carried him to. It appears that he passed through at least two separate meta-Hubble domains, configuring each one to the demands of his disintegrating psyche. Given what was observed in the domain he eventually occupied, we can only consider it a blessing that he did not successfully return to the launch point.

When the Shadow Guardians were inserted into the subject's exit point they immediately broke contact. We assumed that they had been subverted by the subject's unknown, nascent ontostatic capabilities.
However, at insertion plus fifty five hours, indirect observation of the subject's volume indicated total collapse and necrosis of the manifold (...)
I theorized that, indirectly, the technicians may have observed the Great Darkness or it's effects on wherever it was. The transcendent may for all intents and purposes now serve as a "vessel" or "scout" for the GD. Or something else entirely.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: General Battuta on April 20, 2013, 08:49:43 pm
Where the heck did Gregster2k's second post go? It was big and effortful and I read it quite recently, and now it's gone.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: An4ximandros on April 20, 2013, 08:51:10 pm
I was wondering the same thing when I posted mine as a semi-answer to his...

EDIT: Nice try, mate! I got yer post by back pedaling like 8 pages back >=P
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Gregster2k on April 20, 2013, 08:55:59 pm
This is an endings thread. You don't need to mark spoilers, it's in the title! :p
Point well taken, removing spoiler tags from post.

Where the heck did Gregster2k's second post go? It was big and effortful and I read it quite recently, and now it's gone.
I moved it to a Notepad file when I realized the OP seemed to be interpreting the Transcend Ending from the perspective of someone who has not played Sync or Transcend at all.  I don't want to spoil Sync/Transcend for Providence932 so I'm holding back for now.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: An4ximandros on April 20, 2013, 08:56:45 pm
You can always tag your post with a warning for him, you know... :nervous:
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Gregster2k on April 20, 2013, 08:59:29 pm
You can always tag your post with a warning for him, you know... :nervous:
Point well taken, reposting.

Dear OP (providence932):
If you haven't played http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Sync and  http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Transcend yet, you should do so ASAP, they're awesome campaigns, and the ending you posted is a reference to both of them.  Also, DON'T READ THIS POST!

PERSONAL ANALYSIS
(WARNING: SPOILS CAMPAIGNS SYNC (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Sync) & TRANSCEND (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Transcend))

Spoiler:
The inclusion of Hangar 96 is most likely an easter egg and is not canonical to BP.  I don't have anything to say regarding the fake ending, ants ending, or the true ending at this time.  However, getting back to the OP's topic, the duplicate inclusion (and thereby increased rate of getting it at random) of the Transcendant easter egg is interesting.

Since the Blue Planet universe allows for a meta-verse where there are many different universes available, it is conceivable that the events of Transcend are in fact canon to the overall Blue Planet Campaign Lore so to speak, but did not occur in the specific universes/realities ("Normal" and "GTD Sanctuary") that the majority of BP takes place in.  In other words, within this campaign's lore, there exists an alternate reality universe where the events of Sync and Transcend occurred.  As such, this campaign then creatively "builds upon" Sync and Transcend for its own purposes, and the implications, are intriguing ... and terrifying.

Indeed, this mission deemed the Transcendant's powers as "ontostatic" -- possibly related to the "ontovore" concept the Shivans seem genuinely frightened of during the mission?  It also interpreted the Sync Drive as transdimensional.  This raises questions from me:
Spoiler:
- Do dimensions, in this context, refer to other universes/realities like the one with the GTD Sanctuary?

- Would the Sync Drive, being transdimensional, pass through them?

- Could Sync have been a primitive form of the same dimension hopping capability the Vishnans possess?!! *BRAIN EXPLODES*

- Is the Transcendant an ontovore, whatever that means?

- Does that make him similar to The Great Darkness in nature?

If the Transcendant is capable (in Blue Planet) of dimension-hopping, or interfacing via Nagari, then that explains why Noemi is able to interact with him.  However, if the events of Transcend are canon, then the Transcendant died, right?

Right?   :shaking:
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: An4ximandros on April 20, 2013, 09:01:12 pm
You accidentally the first spoiler tag! :p

EDIT: As far as the Transcendent's unfolding goes... that may have actually resulted in the Great Darkness! If you think about the necrosis of the manifold and the capacity for critters to emerge and devour dead bodies, the death of the Transcendent may have created the "Worm" we refer to as the "Great Darkness"
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: General Battuta on April 20, 2013, 09:04:31 pm
You can use [ spoiler ] and [ /  spoiler ] (remove spaces) to hide your post.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Gregster2k on April 20, 2013, 09:10:13 pm
As far as the Transcendent's unfolding goes... that may have actually resulted in the Great Darkness! If you think about the necrosis of the manifold and the capacity for critters to emerge and devour dead bodies, the death of the Transcendent may have created the "Worm" we refer to as the "Great Darkness"

I wonder though what The Manifold is...and why would they use the word Necrosis?

Somewhere in Tenebra it was said that the Brahmans of old created a mistake, which now "stalks the cold corridors of the cosmos."  Assuming that to be the G.D., then the Transcendant can't be the GD.  He's not an ancient being, he was a modern human - he came from the GTVA, from the Sync Device (wait...was Sync made with Shivan tech? :nervous:). ... On the other hand, time has no meaning for him or the Vishnans, does it?

I think it's more likely that the Transcendant is a sort of rogue being, an independent, a relative or analogue to the GD, or a human-created facsimile of the GD.  The GD may very well be the collective insanity of an entire transcended race (the Brahmans?).  Is the Transcendant what would happen if the GD somehow 'escaped' Nagari?  Or maybe he's a product of the GD?  Perhaps the GD came first, the Sync Drive passed through it...and the Transcendant was thus "infected" by its insanity? :shaking:

I theorized that, indirectly, the technicians may have observed the Great Darkness or it's effects on wherever it was. The transcendent may for all intents and purposes now serve as a "vessel" or "scout" for the GD. Or something else entirely.

Maybe the Transcendant is what happens if you look behind you.

EDIT: No wait.  The Sync Device is an interdimensional transporter, whereas Nagari is a quantum pulse transmitter.  Does the GD occupy a physical space?  Does Nagari exist in a dimension unto itself?  I suppose if your brain physically passes through dimensions, it's not all that different than having it receive data through dimensions?  Maybe?  Hmm.  Now I'm stuck.  :P

You can use [ spoiler ] and [ /  spoiler ] (remove spaces) to hide your post.
Done.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: An4ximandros on April 20, 2013, 09:41:22 pm
 Sorry, Should have clarified. The necrosis was in reference to the Transcend ending. The Necrosis of the subspace manifold. That may have served as a carcass for a sort of "larva" darkness to feed and grow out of. It was just a spur of the moment thing.

 And as far as Nagari & Subspace go, they both are methods of transmitting "information." And as far as we know, Subspace is information transmission "outside" of "Volumes" & "Layers". Nagari is a sort of protocol to transmit information by electric impulses directly into matter. (This is my understanding at the moment, feel free to prove me wrong, General.)
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: qwadtep on April 21, 2013, 02:18:06 am
You accidentally the first spoiler tag! :p

EDIT: As far as the Transcendent's unfolding goes... that may have actually resulted in the Great Darkness! If you think about the necrosis of the manifold and the capacity for critters to emerge and devour dead bodies, the death of the Transcendent may have created the "Worm" we refer to as the "Great Darkness"
The prefix onto- means "being" or "existence." An ontovore therefore would consume existence, so it stands to reason that the necrosis of the manifold is itself the Great Darkness.

Spoiler:
Similarly, the term ontostatic likely refers to a fixed existence--something that simply is. A universal constant. The Transcendent is immortal.

Practically speaking though, sometimes a necrosis of the manifold is just a necrosis of the manifold. It means the Transcendent ended up in an unstable bubble of spacetime which decayed and collapsed, nothing more.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Molybdenum on April 21, 2013, 05:52:47 am
Spoiler:
Since Sync could be used for transdimentional travel it's no wonder why the Shivans wanted it so badly.

Quote
We do not know how the subject managed to stabilize the pocket of subspace his exit trajectory carried him to. It appears that he passed through at least two separate meta-Hubble domains, configuring each one to the demands of his disintegrating psyche. Given what was observed in the domain he eventually occupied, we can only consider it a blessing that he did not successfully return to the launch point.

Spoiler:
"The domain he eventually occupied" is the universe where the events of Transcend took place. Had the Transcendent "returned to the launch point" he would have returned to the universe in which this note was written and caused havoc there. This universe could possibly be the canon BP verse or some other dimension that Laporte came into contact with through Nagari.

Quote
When the Shadow Guardians were inserted into the subject's exit point they immediately broke contact. We assumed that they had been subverted by the subject's unknown, nascent ontostatic capabilities.
However, at insertion plus fifty five hours, indirect observation of the subject's volume indicated total collapse and necrosis of the manifold, leading to the loss of the Shadow Guardians, the subject's stealth craft, and any data relating to the initial contact between the subject and the target volume.

Spoiler:
The Shadow Guardians were somehow sent through dimensions to stop the Transcendent but failed. 55 hours after their insertion the player character destroys the Transcendent ship causing the collapse of the dimension he inhabited (the "rewinding" final cutscene).

Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: An4ximandros on April 24, 2013, 11:16:23 pm
(http://imageshack.us/a/img43/2621/wotzl.png)
Wot is dis, I don't even. :nervous:
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: General Battuta on April 24, 2013, 11:40:19 pm
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2621/wotzl.png)
Wot is dis, I don't even. :nervous:

Link is dead
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Kolgena on April 25, 2013, 01:07:09 am
Looks like DNA. There's even a start codon in the briefing title.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: cmap38 on April 25, 2013, 09:07:13 pm
I'd totally check that image for hidden messages if someone would post a higher res version. It's a long shot, but it would be neat to find a message hidden in the resulting amino acid sequence.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: General Battuta on April 25, 2013, 09:13:09 pm
This once, there's nothing there.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: An4ximandros on April 25, 2013, 09:27:15 pm
 That would be way too much effort for something so little, specially for a group of modders. I will trust the God-Doctor of Mankind this once and save me a headache.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: General Battuta on April 25, 2013, 09:49:07 pm
Nah, it would've been a great place to put an easter egg and I'm embarrassed we didn't. Something for a patch, perhaps!
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Kolgena on April 25, 2013, 11:01:26 pm
Wait, is that actually a debrief, or something from pretty bad corruption? At least judging by the background, there seems to be a lot of graphics artifacting.

(Also, where's the full debrief involving laporte peeling her skin off?)
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Suongadon on April 25, 2013, 11:31:46 pm
Don't know what is up with An4x's image, but that screen is in the VP, uncorrupted-looking, bp2random5, for anyone who wants to look without seeing the ****ing spiders.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Hobbie on April 26, 2013, 12:36:22 am
Don't know what is up with An4x's image, but that screen is in the VP, uncorrupted-looking, bp2random5, for anyone who wants to look without seeing the ****ing spiders.

Damn those spiders. They served their intended purpose (by freaking me the hell out).

But yeah, I didn't see the peeling-off-skin debriefing in the previous list. It's one of the ones I hadn't run into in my jaunts through the terrifying hell that is Universal Truth.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Hopeful on August 01, 2013, 12:32:09 am
Woah, you guys were discussing Ransom's campaigns and the Transcendent cameo? Awesome. This is somewhat off-topic but does anyone know what he used to do that voice-filtering work for the Transcend voice files? I'd like to see if I can replicate a similar effect or use it if it's a pre-packaged standard with something.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: redsniper on August 02, 2013, 09:29:06 am
He traveled beyond space and that's just how he sounds now.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Hopeful on August 06, 2013, 07:31:37 pm
He traveled beyond space and that's just how he sounds now.
Mate, I wasn't really looking for a joke answer, though I apologize for derailing.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: An4ximandros on August 06, 2013, 07:49:50 pm
It sounds like some one added noise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_noise) to the voice recordings. And it most likely involves some loss of audio quality as well.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: AtomicClucker on August 06, 2013, 09:06:46 pm
Hm... just wonder if its possible to clean those files up?
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Hopeful on August 06, 2013, 09:29:38 pm
Hm... just wonder if its possible to clean those files up?
If anyone of us had Audacity that may be possible, though without the man himself here to explain all that away all I can do is speculate.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: docfu on August 06, 2013, 11:38:15 pm
You mean everyone lacks the audacity to even try?

Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: An4ximandros on August 07, 2013, 12:15:40 am
You mean everyone lacks the audacity to even try?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6hOBVaMGFI

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

EDIT: That's the point, you made a horrible pun. Thus the horn. :p

But check that link (2nd), you can install Audacity, it's free.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: docfu on August 07, 2013, 12:20:19 am
That sounds like a foghorn, not like the voice of the Transcendant.

Not nearly as audacious as this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Hopeful on August 07, 2013, 01:20:00 am
Not nearly as audacious as this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)

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Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Reloaded on August 13, 2013, 11:33:58 am
EXCELLENT WORK!
I just finished playing BP WiH for the first time... Every time I failed the last mission in all its angles was kinda horrible!!! lol
No, seriously guys, it gave me goosebumps. Better not to play it alone at night with all lights off  :nervous:   :blah:  :shaking:
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: An4ximandros on August 13, 2013, 12:17:29 pm
I played it with the lights off, at night, curtains closed, just before bed, after having too much food. Needless to say, that was a transcending night.


Is that a custom voice file, or from a mod? Sounds really guud.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Reloaded on August 13, 2013, 02:05:10 pm
I was just kidding, of course it would be really interesting to play it that way. Those creepy endings when all goes to hell are pretty bizarre. Really good I'd say.  :headz:
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Hopeful on August 16, 2013, 03:45:46 am
Is that a custom voice file, or from a mod? Sounds really guud.
It's one of the Transcendent voice files in.. the Transcend.vp/DATA/voice/special directory. It's t9 which is just him/it saying 'NO!', t8 being that which you hear in the BAD_END of UT where you choose to stay until death right after laugh.wav which is self-explanatory. That's why I'd like to ask Ransom what he said for those lines.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: docfu on August 16, 2013, 04:40:05 am
I'd be really happy if I could get weather and traffic reports in that voice...

"Today's weather will be sunny at 85 degrees and humid. Good day for the beach."
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Hopeful on August 17, 2013, 01:46:04 am
I'd be really happy if I could get weather and traffic reports in that voice...

"Today's weather will be sunny at 85 degrees and humid. Good day for the beach."
I gotta agree, that idea IS strangely alluring. Maybe it's the aussie voice or the static overlay? I'm betting it's our aussie voice profile though.

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Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: BritishShivans on August 17, 2013, 04:26:39 am
I'd be really happy if I could get weather and traffic reports in that voice...

"Today's weather will be sunny at 85 degrees and humid. Good day for the beach."
I gotta agree, that idea IS strangely alluring. Maybe it's the aussie voice or the static overlay? I'm betting it's our aussie voice profile though.

The Transcendant doesn't sound too aussie to me....

Wait, is Ransom Arceihn australian?  :nervous:
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Phantom Hoover on August 17, 2013, 04:55:36 am
the australian accent he has in all four of his voice acting roles is kind of a giveaway
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: NGTM-1R on August 17, 2013, 05:05:24 am
The Transcendant doesn't sound too aussie to me....

The Transcendant is distorted to the point he doesn't sound too human. Which is pretty much what it should be.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: BritishShivans on August 17, 2013, 05:26:00 am
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Well, I haven't played Transcend in a while. I might've just forgotten what Ransom's accent/voice was like.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Phantom Hoover on August 17, 2013, 05:36:16 am
He also played Mackie in Derelict, Corey in AoA, Ogre in WiHr1 (although that was basically a redshirt part) and Generic GTI Wingman in STR.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: BritishShivans on August 17, 2013, 08:16:51 am
Yeah, I remember Mackie and Corie well, although Mackie never hit the "australian accent" thing in my head. Voices are weird. Wonder if that was to do with the sound effects? i.e. the radio crackle and whatnot
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Hopeful on August 20, 2013, 03:12:40 am
I think we can all agree that WiH's UT was balls-to-the-wall ABSOLUTELY CUHRAYZHEEEEE! Sorts of awesome. And it was all inside a two-way information network too. Taking the most basic of interpretations, that Great Darkness/worm.pof/THING-THAT-MUST-NOT-BE-THOUGHT has to be some sort of zombie/undead/external/all-devourer Nagari presence, although due to the lack of clarification and Lovecraftian/eldritch properties clarification and thus not giving explanation could very well be justified as 2scary4ourtinyminds.

If Ransom were to update/remake Transcend using current FREDding tools how different might it be presented compared to how it was back when? On that note, and apologies for digressing but the Transcend/Sync forums on GameWarden are dead. I've reasoned there were three distinct facets to the Transcendent:

1. The original pilot who wants to return to before (Through false memories that bled through Of the Sync protag? Sunder shares these as well though realizes he couldn't have taken an assignment to escort two freighters, the Esther and Faerie.)
2. That which seeks to spread its influence across the universe and devour everything. (That which was obtained as the Pegasus crossed multiple planes. The ACTUAL ontostatic ontovoric being, 'the Transcendent? Could be related to THAT THING Noemi shouldn't look back at?')
3. The remnants of the man who once was that wishes for death and brings Sunder and Omicron 2/3 into that subspace node to end it's suffering.

I get the cameo is just that; a cameo and nothing more, but as a guy with Asberger's I tend to overthink like this. Please excuse the fanboying, I love stories like BP/Sync/Transcend.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Legate Damar on September 07, 2013, 01:53:39 am
I've been spending the last few hours intentionally failing Universal Truth. Of all of the endings, one of them has me completely baffled.

You can just open it in FRED you know.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: CT27 on September 07, 2013, 01:13:09 pm
He also played Mackie in Derelict, Corey in AoA, Ogre in WiHr1 (although that was basically a redshirt part) and Generic GTI Wingman in STR.

IIRC, he was also your squad leader in the final mission of Destiny Of Peace.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: SypheDMar on September 07, 2013, 11:29:38 pm
Wait, wih is voice acted?
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Husker on September 07, 2013, 11:36:02 pm
Not as far as I know. Anyways, thanks for making me never want to play WiH UT ever again. It crashed on me while the Sathanas fleet bombarded some planet. Now I really don't wanna play it.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: An4ximandros on September 08, 2013, 12:19:30 am
But that is not even the start of the mind screwing ontovoric singularity catastrophic sweven mission! It is like... the prologue.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Hopeful on September 08, 2013, 02:44:03 am
Not as far as I know. Anyways, thanks for making me never want to play WiH UT ever again. It crashed on me while the Sathanas fleet bombarded some planet. Now I really don't wanna play it.
Now I know this is super-cryptic, but did you even go into the jaws of the leviathan? Because that's like within the first 10 seconds. You're telling me it crashed that early? Damn bro, I feel bad for ya.
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Husker on September 08, 2013, 09:15:45 am
It crashes right after Laporte calls out to Kovacs. And I'll probably try to play it again. Oh well. Maybe I just want to scare the crap outta me. Just to be clear, VE doesn't do crap in this mission, does it?
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Phantom Hoover on September 08, 2013, 10:04:19 am
Wait, wih is voice acted?

There are a few generic wingmate response sets in use; Ransom voices one of them (IIRC the woman who voiced Taylor also did one?).
Title: Re: Act III Universal Truth Debriefings (Spoilers)
Post by: Husker on September 08, 2013, 10:19:09 am
Yeah, this campaign really needs voice acting.