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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Plakkivastaava on June 29, 2002, 05:52:46 am
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Yep, Total Annihilation, the legendary wargame is still going strong. New mods, units, races and maps are still being made.
Even a few space TCs have been made and some are in development. For example a Babylon 5 TC is in early stages of development.
In the PlanetAnnihilation forums there has been some talk of a Freespace total conversion for Total Annihilation. However, its only discussion, nothing has been made yet. If the project is to get off the ground, modders from both communities need to get together.
Heres a link to the Planet Annihilation Race forum.
http://www.forumplanet.com/planetannihilation/forum.asp?fid=3497
There is a thread on the first page started by Kalevispetke. Thats me:) Its about Freespace 2. Please read it if you're interested and even post in it.
So, anyone interested?
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Originally posted by Plakkivastaava
Yep, Total Annihilation, the legendary wargame is still going strong. New mods, units, races and maps are still being made.
Even a few space TCs have been made and some are in development. For example a Babylon 5 TC is in early stages of development.
In the PlanetAnnihilation forums there has been some talk of a Freespace total conversion for Total Annihilation. However, its only discussion, nothing has been made yet. If the project is to get off the ground, modders from both communities need to get together.
Heres a link to the Planet Annihilation Race forum.
http://www.forumplanet.com/planetannihilation/forum.asp?fid=3497
There is a thread on the first page started by Kalevispetke. Thats me:) Its about Freespace 2. Please read it if you're interested and even post in it.
So, anyone interested?
But!! I don't want to play as shivan!!!
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anyone know a good place to get TA cheap? (no, not warez) It is one of the classic RTSs that I missed out on, and I want to be able to make my own mods for it....
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Originally posted by Analazon
anyone know a good place to get TA cheap? (no, not warez) It is one of the classic RTSs that I missed out on, and I want to be able to make my own mods for it....
o of course... you can get TA right over here (http://shop.blizzard.com/section3)
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At least you might make a better story than Cavedog did! :D
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Will it be a without-bug TC ? Because TA is not without bugs :rolleyes:
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What bugs were in TA? Apart from the crappyness of the 'advanced' units?
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
What bugs were in TA? Apart from the crappyness of the 'advanced' units?
This I want to hear as well..:confused:
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How about stupid pathfinding AI, ships that go round and round rather than towards their target, and something else.
It was still a great game though, but lets not start that TA v RedAlert argument, OK?
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I never noticed any bugs in TA....
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It was still a great game though, but lets not start that TA v RedAlert argument, OK?
Hmm, tempting...
Sid.
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Tell them we're still waiting for the FS -> Homeworld mod. ;)
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This is something I would really like to see. :)
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You mean SVG, I trust you're not talking about TAP.
If you do mean SVG, I agree, it is about time they got on with it, the last time I downloaded it, it was terrible. The weapons were invisible, the balance was FUBAR. for instance, the mothership was an Arcadia, the heavy cruiser was a Colossus. Now 6km long juggernaught emerging from the belly of a 1km long installation? Hmm...
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TA is a great game..I'm already using a few third-party models from it for NTV (check sig)..if something like this was made I'd sure as heck play it..
Hard to see an Orion lumbering around, though. It'd be kind of impractical.
You could probably make a go at a SWTA approach, though.
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Originally posted by Alikchi
You could probably make a go at a SWTA approach, though.
I think it will use the same base than the mod Final Frontier. Its a space only. If you own TA check it out!!! It kicks ass.
Its probably gonna be Final Frontier with FS ships if it someday gets off the ground.
You should also know that I'm no modder. I can do little FREDding and little TA mapping but thats all. I'm just a fan trying to get this project going:).
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Nice :)
Well, if I knew how to do it (I gave a try at modding for a few months, couldn't quite get it) I'd help ya
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Originally posted by Alikchi
Nice :)
Well, if I knew how to do it (I gave a try at modding for a few months, couldn't quite get it) I'd help ya
I'm glad that someone is actually interested in this.
If you want to learn TA modding I suggest that you go check the Estrella site.
www.tadesigners.com
It is the ultimate TA modding site. You can find all kinds of extensive modding tutorials there, from mapping to unit making.
It should help you off the ground.
for example:on the left menu Design Tools->Unit making->->Manuals->basic start for unit design
(Check the midi that you can play at the site(its under the menu on the left), it is awesome!!)
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Forgive my ignorance, but how would an TA mod from FS look?
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Originally posted by Plakkivastaava
If you want to learn TA modding I suggest that you go check the Estrella site.
www.tadesigners.com
Yeah I go there pretty much every day now that TAU is down ( :( ) . I'll give unitmaking another try as soon as I get to my home computer (3 days or so)
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Originally posted by Face Dancer
Forgive my ignorance, but how would an TA mod from FS look?
Good question, I'm afraid it would look bad. The unit polycount has to be lowered significantly from that of FS. TA can't handle hundreds of ships at once if they are all FS polycount.
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Originally posted by Alikchi
I'll give unitmaking another try as soon as I get to my home computer (3 days or so)
Thats nice to hear. I'm also trying to learn some more TA modding. I tried to put the FS 1 ship hall music to play in the TA main menu. It didn't work though. I must find out!
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Ahh, TA. Thing I remember most about 1997's most highly acclaimed strategy game was it was the first I'd seen to model aircraft in a convincing fashion. Meaning, they'd bank and go on bombing runs instead of just hovering there like a fool.
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Originally posted by the slammer
Meaning, they'd bank and go on bombing runs instead of just hovering there like a fool.
Thats right, bombers do just that. However there are floating type aircraft as well. Theyre called gunships. Theyre not stupid either. They circle around the enemy and fire continuously.
They don't stand still like Starcraft air units, making them harder to hit.
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Originally posted by Plakkivastaava
Thats right, bombers do just that. However there are floating type aircraft as well. Theyre called gunships. Theyre not stupid either. They circle around the enemy and fire continuously.
They don't stand still like Starcraft air units, making them harder to hit.
Yes, my point exactly. The aircraft were smart!
One time, I saw one of my regular fighters being chased by an enemy stealth fighter. As the stealth was preparing to fire, my plane hit the airbrakes, slid in behind the stealth, and blew him to bits.
Good memories :D
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I remember many incidents like that; the aircraft battles were really cool to watch in that game. ;)
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I am back, what do you need me to do, Plaakivasta (sp)?
Edit: Wow, I screwed up your name good :p
Plakkivastaava
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Originally posted by the slammer
Yes, my point exactly. The aircraft were smart!
One time, I saw one of my regular fighters being chased by an enemy stealth fighter. As the stealth was preparing to fire, my plane hit the airbrakes, slid in behind the stealth, and blew him to bits.
Good memories :D
Wow! :eek::jaw: Never seen anything like that myself though...
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Originally posted by Alikchi
I am back, what do you need me to do, Plaakivasta (sp)?
Edit: Wow, I screwed up your name good :p
Plakkivastaava
heh, that isn't even my current nick. I'm called Kalevispetke in the PlanetAnnihilation forums. That is my real nick. Plakkivastaava is an old nick of mine. I tried to change it here too but the email was already used by this nick...
Now don't come asking how to pronounce these names correctly...:p
So, uh. I dunno. Youre the only one interested right now...
Maybe you could try out some unitmaking... It would be real easy if you could edit FS ships and then save them straight to the format TA uses...
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I might be able to do that, I wouldn't be able to save the textures though just the models. I know Thorn or someone has converted a lot of them to LWO, I have them right here..
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Originally posted by Plakkivastaava
heh, that isn't even my current nick. I'm called Kalevispetke in the PlanetAnnihilation forums. That is my real nick. Plakkivastaava is an old nick of mine. I tried to change it here too but the email was already used by this nick...
Now don't come asking how to pronounce these names correctly...:p
Well, I'll just call you plastic-avatar!
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I still do not see TA on the list of blizzard games...
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Originally posted by Analazon
I still do not see TA on the list of blizzard games...
That's cuz it wasn't made by Blizzard; I think he was making a joke. It was developed by Cavedog and published by GT Interactive. They were bought by Infogrames, so this is the best I could find in regards to purchasing it online:
http://www.us.infogrames.com/store/
Best of luck.
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I didn't know who cavedog was bought by...
I finally found it on (of all places) amazon for $10! w00t!
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What's that in £Sterling, 'cos I bought it for a fiver last year.
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But are you going to make Shivans and all that as ground-units as well, and then will they be nanolathed?
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*sigh of bliss*
TA MODding was the first thing I ever tried to MOD, and although it got me into Rhino3D quite heavily, I never did make any units for the game. The tools back then were too complicated for someone who just had weekend leave every now and then to learn things.
I might be able to help anyone wanting to interface FS2 and Rhino, since that's what I use to make ships for FS2, but I don't have the time for anything else.
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If I can recall I had a discussion with Drako about a TA:FS mod
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I'm going away for at least a week, starting tomorrow morning...
keep the headz rolling till then!
:headz:
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Originally posted by Petrarch of th VBB
Well, I'll just call you plastic-avatar!
LMFAO :p Hahahahaha thas freaken funny. Oh and hi to you all! haha I couldn't help but notice the TA FS thingy so I decided to check it out. Of course, I'm no MODder in any sense of the word. But I'm very much interested. Maybe I could help in one way or another? :doubt: Sounds like a nice idea.
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Thanx, it's about time someone noticed my humour. And BTW I belive Total Annihilation 2 is in the works, in the "Done when it's Done" in this months UK PCGamer, anyway.
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Originally posted by Petrarch of th VBB
Thanx, it's about time someone noticed my humour. And BTW I belive Total Annihilation 2 is in the works, in the "Done when it's Done" in this months UK PCGamer, anyway.
REALLY?!?!?!?!?!?! :jaw: Wow! I wanna see a totally revved up and new TA! That would be awesome!!!;7
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Originally posted by Plakkivastaava
Good question, I'm afraid it would look bad. The unit polycount has to be lowered significantly from that of FS. TA can't handle hundreds of ships at once if they are all FS polycount.
How much lower? You could possibly use one of the lower quality LoDs already done by [V], though I have no idea of the average polycount of TA models.