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Title: ISS play with fire
Post by: headdie on June 19, 2013, 12:14:55 pm
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/video--space-station-fire-experiment-discovers-new-kind-of-flame-144135693.html?vp=1

basically while studying fire in microgravity the scientists on the ISS have made observations that could help with cleaner combustion for things like internal combustion engines
Title: Re: ISS play with fire
Post by: StarSlayer on June 19, 2013, 12:57:52 pm
After looking at the image I think this is just a cover for NASA breeding Pac Man Ghosts.
Title: Re: ISS play with fire
Post by: FireSpawn on June 19, 2013, 01:11:28 pm
Quote from: Laurence Fishburne
Have you ever seen fire in zero gravity? It's beautiful. It's like liquid it... slides all over everything. Comes up in waves.

So Event Horizon is nothing but lies? Damn.
Title: Re: ISS play with fire
Post by: Kolgena on June 19, 2013, 01:31:29 pm
I'll bet if you spilled ethanol over a burner, you'd get waves/membranes of "fire". I imagine it would actually look really cool.

The photo of that sphere of fire is pretty. It almost looks like a shield bubble too.
Title: Re: ISS play with fire
Post by: watsisname on June 19, 2013, 06:53:39 pm
Spherical diffusion flames are awesome. :yes:
Title: Re: ISS play with fire
Post by: deathfun on June 19, 2013, 07:09:59 pm
I'll bet if you spilled ethanol over a burner, you'd get waves/membranes of "fire". I imagine it would actually look really cool.

The photo of that sphere of fire is pretty. It almost looks like a shield bubble too.

*Don't try this at home
Title: Re: ISS play with fire
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on June 20, 2013, 03:18:33 am
basically while studying fire in microgravity the scientists on the ISS have made observations that could help with cleaner combustion for things like internal combustion engines
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why we invest in fundamental scientific research :):yes:
Title: Re: ISS play with fire
Post by: ShadowWolf_IH on June 20, 2013, 03:46:16 am
I am glad to see that we are looking to find more efficient ways to burn things cleaner.  At the same time, I am let down about how we still aren't looking at alternatives to ICE's, or at least alternative fuels.  Last night I watched a show where these guys lived in an area of constant rolling power outages, and they simply built a gasifier  that burned wood and created Hydrogen which then ran a generator and powered the guy's house.  They built it out of crap lying around in the yard, and what they could get at a junkyard.  Is that feasible for powering a car, I would think not, but I do think that Hydrogen is the answer.

Either way, very cool find FSF.
Title: Re: ISS play with fire
Post by: SpardaSon21 on June 20, 2013, 11:50:45 am
Free hydrogen isn't common, so you have to extract it from some other unrefined source... like hydrocarbons.
Title: Re: ISS play with fire
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on June 20, 2013, 12:11:20 pm
Last night I watched a show where these guys lived in an area of constant rolling power outages, and they simply built a gasifier  that burned wood and created Hydrogen which then ran a generator and powered the guy's house.  They built it out of crap lying around in the yard, and what they could get at a junkyard.  Is that feasible for powering a car, I would think not, but I do think that Hydrogen is the answer.

Hey, combustion is combustion - this will improve biofuel burning just as well as fossil fuel. Should help for those industries where there are no viable alternatives yet (thinking of aviation in particular).

Oh, and wood gas for powering a car? Definitely possible (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas), it was fairly common during WWII (due to fuel rations). Not a looker though:

(http://www.lumicity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Wood-car.png)

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Either way, very cool find FSF.
*points to headdie* :nervous:
Title: Re: ISS play with fire
Post by: Aardwolf on June 20, 2013, 04:37:16 pm
And it led to significant deforestation in Europe!
Title: Re: ISS play with fire
Post by: headdie on June 20, 2013, 07:29:33 pm
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Either way, very cool find FSF.
*points to headdie* :nervous:

lol cheers fsf

And it led to significant deforestation in Europe!

the utter destruction of forests from shelling to strip away cover didnt help either, though iirc the first world war was worse for that.
Title: Re: ISS play with fire
Post by: pecenipicek on June 21, 2013, 02:26:11 am
is there some other, more interesting videos on this with less narration and more space fire?
Title: Re: ISS play with fire
Post by: Nuke on June 21, 2013, 03:10:16 pm
Last night I watched a show where these guys lived in an area of constant rolling power outages, and they simply built a gasifier  that burned wood and created Hydrogen which then ran a generator and powered the guy's house.  They built it out of crap lying around in the yard, and what they could get at a junkyard.  Is that feasible for powering a car, I would think not, but I do think that Hydrogen is the answer.

Hey, combustion is combustion - this will improve biofuel burning just as well as fossil fuel. Should help for those industries where there are no viable alternatives yet (thinking of aviation in particular).

Oh, and wood gas for powering a car? Definitely possible (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas), it was fairly common during WWII (due to fuel rations). Not a looker though:

(http://www.lumicity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Wood-car.png)

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Either way, very cool find FSF.
*points to headdie* :nervous:
meh, wood gassifiers are mostly reserved as redneck tech these days. why buy gas when you can just chop down trees and burn those instead (and here they grow like weeds).