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Title: So...Act 4?
Post by: HandOfCheese on July 01, 2013, 05:54:05 am
No, it's not too early, I want my WiH itch to be scratched now :p!

I'm actually surprised there aren't more topics like this out already - a week doesn't go by when I don't feel like replaying a mission from any of the three Acts, or re-reading some of CASANDRA dialogues while listening to the ambient music. Not to mention the fact that Act 3 just raised the quality and ingenuity bar SO high that there is litteraly no mod for any game ever that even comes close and...

Ok, enough fanboy-isms, Act 4, gimme :D!
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: The E on July 01, 2013, 06:16:05 am
It will be released when it's done, no sooner. Please understand that due to increasing real-life commitments on the part of all team members, we cannot give any release date whatsoever.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: HandOfCheese on July 03, 2013, 04:08:10 am
The dreaded George Martin treatment? Nooooooo!

Just kidding :). Let the team take all the time it needs. Can't rush perfection.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Drogoth on July 05, 2013, 06:16:07 pm
The dreaded George Martin treatment? Nooooooo!

Just kidding :). Let the team take all the time it needs. Can't rush perfection.

Yeah every time we ask they kill a character.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: An4ximandros on July 05, 2013, 06:34:57 pm
 Ve kan has akt phor plz? :p Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms Kill Simms
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Luis Dias on July 05, 2013, 06:51:06 pm
I'm actually quite at peace. These guys are probably just not working at the mod atm for a few months now due to life concerns, etc., but if they ever decide they can't really finish this thing out, they have promised to leave us with the general plot.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Leeko on July 07, 2013, 03:52:46 pm
If BP goes unfinished I will mourn it for the rest of my days. :(
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Crybertrance on July 09, 2013, 11:49:22 am
I'm pretty sure it won't go unfinished... We've got some really good devs working on it!  :nod:
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Torchwood on July 09, 2013, 12:41:26 pm
That's a relief. Wouldn't want this to become Blue Planet Forever :P
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Leeko on July 12, 2013, 03:40:34 pm
Really busy devs. Busy with real life. Stuff happens. Tenebra alone took, what, two and a half years or something? Which I can understand because, seriously, it's the densest most insane FreeSpace I have ever played. I can only imagine the ridiculous FRED hax that were needed. Leave it to BP to push the boundaries of this game's engine.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Phantom Hoover on July 12, 2013, 09:18:41 pm
Well... the rest of WiH already has a significant amount of work done on it. I think it's fairly safe to say that the team will, eventually, release it (even if it's just a "here's what we got done" thing, in the worst case). As for BP3, I've heard murmurs that if they really can't make it happen as a campaign the writers may just write up the story and release it as a novel.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Leeko on July 13, 2013, 03:03:43 am
Well... the rest of WiH already has a significant amount of work done on it. I think it's fairly safe to say that the team will, eventually, release it (even if it's just a "here's what we got done" thing, in the worst case).

Unless I've missed something (which is very possible, I'm not exactly on the up-and-up), the last official word is that Act IV is still very much in-progress and Act V is not even started. Is there anything more recent than my version of this thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=83703) (featuring Batutta rage, a substantive answer to this thread's question, and JAD!)? ;)

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As for BP3, I've heard murmurs that if they really can't make it happen as a campaign the writers may just write up the story and release it as a novel.

That's... ambitious? Again unless I have missed something that was more along the lines of Batutta musing "You know I once tossed around the idea of making the BP story into a legit novel but it would be a lot of work to make it not violate copyrights and stuff"
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: MatthTheGeek on July 13, 2013, 03:40:45 am
You missed something called IRC. What is on the forum is far to be all the communication happening.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Leeko on July 13, 2013, 01:21:59 pm
Hence my continual caveats. Maybe I should lurk your irc too. :drevil:
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: CT27 on July 15, 2013, 10:35:26 pm
You missed something called IRC. What is on the forum is far to be all the communication happening.


Where would I find this IRC for this site/Freespace?
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: knossosfs2 on July 15, 2013, 11:44:49 pm
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Where would I find this IRC for this site/Freespace?

If you look at the bar on the top of the page, next to "HLP Network," there is a tab titled "HLP." Click on that, mouse over IRC, and you'll see the various links for Mibbit or IRCd.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: CT27 on July 16, 2013, 12:34:30 am
Thanks.



As for the thread topic, will the next release of WIH conclude WIH (i.e. acts 4 and 5 released together like 1 and 2) or will the final two acts be separate releases?
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Luis Dias on July 16, 2013, 05:10:23 am
I think that when they annouce it we will all learn those details. Probably not before.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Nagrach on July 24, 2013, 02:33:56 am
I'am more worried about the Progress of the Voice Acting...
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: QuakeIV on July 24, 2013, 12:45:13 pm
If it goes unfinished I'll probably just man up, make some practice campaigns (already made some headway on that part), then try to finish it myself.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Reloaded on July 24, 2013, 02:05:03 pm
If it goes unfinished I'll probably just man up, make some practice campaigns (already made some headway on that part), then try to finish it myself.

Well that would be just nice! But really, do you think you could finish it? I mean, there's wwwwaaaaaaaaayyyyyy too much stuff to be done yet... for just one guy (if I got it right).
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Axem on July 24, 2013, 06:39:19 pm
We're dying to finish BP, but we've got things like jobs and kids and other FreeSpace mods to take care of. Progress comes and goes in spurts.

I mean just look at this top sekret SVN log window!

(http://lazymodders.fsmods.net/files/BP/bpprogress.png)

(Let the ridiculous speculation on the log messages begin!)
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: niffiwan on July 24, 2013, 07:48:18 pm
 :wtf:  cockbadger?  :wtf:

Also good to see that you're giving the SCP a run for their money with meaningful commit log entries :D
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: An4ximandros on July 24, 2013, 08:11:46 pm
Now that I think about it, I gotta ask... Is it pronounced GEF or JEF?
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Axem on July 24, 2013, 08:47:44 pm
I am fairly certain the reason there are so many gef factions is because they all have their own way of pronouncing it. Kostadin says jeff, Greenfly says ghef, the Mooninites say gaeff and so on.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: The E on July 25, 2013, 02:01:59 am
Now that I think about it, I gotta ask... Is it pronounced GEF or JEF?

It's pronounced like gif.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Piemanlives on July 25, 2013, 02:28:32 am
Cockbadger.............
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: An4ximandros on July 25, 2013, 02:38:14 am
By some random definition in Urban Dictionary, I am inclined to believe it's a "what if?" Laporte/Simms slashfic briefing.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: X3N0-Life-Form on July 25, 2013, 05:25:42 am
Hodor.

Anyway, I'm glad to see I'm not the only person who's got weird/wacky commit messages :P
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Phantom Hoover on July 27, 2013, 05:29:40 pm
I wonder how much information can be reconstructed from that blurred line.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: General Battuta on September 21, 2013, 10:06:21 am
I'am more worried about the Progress of the Voice Acting...

I'd really love to see VA finished, but it's pretty ****ed right now.  :(

As for the mod as a whole...I doubt I'll ever be able to work on it full-time again, but one way or another, the story will be completed. The rest of the team is still making progress, and if the time ever comes, we can just write the remainder of the story up in a forum post or three.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Darius on September 21, 2013, 11:31:29 am
All else fails I'll record my voice for every uncast line and pitch-shift up for the female parts.

And with that threat hanging over everyone's heads I expect a flurry of activity now.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Phantom Hoover on September 21, 2013, 11:32:10 am
the threat would hold more weight if you threatened to do a falsetto
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Luis Dias on September 21, 2013, 01:53:02 pm
oh ahhh welcome back Battuta!
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Piemanlives on September 22, 2013, 01:10:44 am
Welcome back General
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: InsaneBaron on September 25, 2013, 07:31:10 am
Battuta, welcome back!
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: infernal-dragon on October 04, 2013, 06:59:12 pm
I first played this mod near the end of 2010.  I was a senior in high school.  At that point only act two was released.

I am a junior in college now and now act 3 has only just been released.

Why do I get the feeling that by the time this mod is completed, Half-Life 3 will be out, I will be about two years out of college, and this mod still won't be fully voiced yet?
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: QuakeIV on October 04, 2013, 07:22:31 pm
I first played this mod near the end of 2010.  I was a senior in high school.  At that point only act two was released.

I am a junior in college now and now act 3 has only just been released.

Why do I get the feeling that by the time this mod is completed, Half-Life 3 will be out, I will be about two years out of college, and this mod still won't be fully voiced yet?

Because thats exactly whats going to happen.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: SF-Junky on October 05, 2013, 02:26:29 am
Well, why not? Blizzard is doing it with Starcraft 2, too. But they just do it to make more cash. The BP team does it because they want to show their progress. And they deliver awesome work. Blizzard delivers story crap.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Frak_Tastic on October 07, 2013, 01:32:28 pm
Well, why not? Blizzard is doing it with Starcraft 2, too. But they just do it to make more cash. The BP team does it because they want to show their progress. And they deliver awesome work. Blizzard delivers story crap.

^^ What this guy said.  You could always contribute...voice acting is always in need.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: whitearrow on October 07, 2013, 03:29:39 pm
I first played this mod near the end of 2010.  I was a senior in high school.  At that point only act two was released.

I am a junior in college now and now act 3 has only just been released.

Why do I get the feeling that by the time this mod is completed, Half-Life 3 will be out, I will be about two years out of college, and this mod still won't be fully voiced yet?

Because thats exactly whats going to happen.

Because BP Team is working for BP4 to outmatch Star Citizen!!!  :D
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Nagrach on October 11, 2013, 02:11:06 pm
Ask Hodor it seems he is part of the team :wtf:
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: CT27 on October 11, 2013, 06:23:04 pm
I imagine though that BP will be finished before BWO or TVWP though. ;)
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: InsaneBaron on October 11, 2013, 07:48:02 pm
I imagine though that BP will be finished before BWO or TVWP though. ;)

I sure hope so. I seriously doubt we're EVER going to see TVWP. BWO remains to be seen. WiH R3 is probably the one with the most hope.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: JCDNWarrior on October 11, 2013, 09:10:08 pm
I hope work will  increase soon again so the last two Acts won't be too far off as BP is such a very interesting mod series.
I'm certain every effort is being made and alternatives such as other modders being asked to join or for the VA, approaching voice actor communities in various ways.

I've seen some people including interesting Let's Players on YT waiting for the VA version of WiH before playing and LPing, which definitely feels like it limits the kind of reach that can be had. It makes me curious if finding VA for other mods for FS2 will meet the same kind of difficulties, if so I think we'll need to get used to having only text..which to me personally is quite sufficient, but apparently not the case for some.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: CT27 on October 11, 2013, 11:25:55 pm
I imagine though that BP will be finished before BWO or TVWP though. ;)

I sure hope so. I seriously doubt we're EVER going to see TVWP. BWO remains to be seen. WiH R3 is probably the one with the most hope.

I thought it was the other way around?  I.e., BWO is the defacto dead one and TVWP remains a possibility?
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: infernal-dragon on October 11, 2013, 11:51:20 pm
I hope work will  increase soon again so the last two Acts won't be too far off as BP is such a very interesting mod series.
I'm certain every effort is being made and alternatives such as other modders being asked to join or for the VA, approaching voice actor communities in various ways.

I've seen some people including interesting Let's Players on YT waiting for the VA version of WiH before playing and LPing, which definitely feels like it limits the kind of reach that can be had. It makes me curious if finding VA for other mods for FS2 will meet the same kind of difficulties, if so I think we'll need to get used to having only text..which to me personally is quite sufficient, but apparently not the case for some.

The first time you run through the game the text-only can get EXTREMELY annoying because the game was designed with voices in mind.  The gameplay itself requires 100% attention, and sometimes taking your eyes off of the action to read can get you killed.  This might have been avoided if all of the lines were done outside of combat, but a lot of lines go off during intense dogfights when you have 5 missiles locked onto you.

Its not as big of a deal in later run throughs as you already know most of the lines and what you have to do, but for first timers it can contribute to the difficulty of the game.

Personally, now that I'm used to it I don't mind it but when I first played the mod it was very annoying.  I'm more concerned about the campaign getting finished first than getting VAs.  I completely understand that the modders have other, more important things to do than to finish this quickly.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Gray113 on October 12, 2013, 12:16:03 am
If you miss anything you only have to press F4 to read over the messages
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Bryan See on October 12, 2013, 04:14:11 am
I imagine though that BP will be finished before BWO or TVWP though. ;)

I sure hope so. I seriously doubt we're EVER going to see TVWP. BWO remains to be seen. WiH R3 is probably the one with the most hope.

I thought it was the other way around?  I.e., BWO is the defacto dead one and TVWP remains a possibility?

And what about FreeSpace: Reunited, which I'm developing right now? (FS:R will incorporate references from AOA, but will relate to things that happen in Acts 4 and 5 of WIH and the third and final chapter of the Blue Planet trilogy)
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: The E on October 12, 2013, 04:36:30 am
And what about FreeSpace: Reunited, which I'm developing right now?

What about it? It has no place amongst a couple of long-running big projects. Don't get me wrong, it may be the greatest thing ever, but why should we list it amongst long-expected projects such as BWO and TWVP (and BP, for that matter), when we do not know you, your storytelling, your fredding abilities, nothing that would give us any sort of expectations towards your release?
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: SF-Junky on October 12, 2013, 09:39:20 am
As for BWO and TVWP: General saga is that BWO has been finished years ago and is de facto ready for release, but they've just been waiting for HTL models to be done. So if HTLing is done, they can release instantly. TVWP is, as far as I am informed, a more or less dead project. There seem to be a few people working to get the first chapter (Unification War) updated recently. But overall, I can't see any serious efforts to produce the final chapters.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: CT27 on October 12, 2013, 02:54:25 pm
As for BWO and TVWP: General saga is that BWO has been finished years ago and is de facto ready for release, but they've just been waiting for HTL models to be done. So if HTLing is done, they can release instantly.

I've never designed a campaign before, how long does HTLing generally take?

Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: The E on October 12, 2013, 03:23:24 pm
Htling is not a campaign design step. It's a modelling thing, and if you do not have modelers willing and able to actually work on stuff, then it can and will take forever.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: OtakuMage on January 06, 2014, 03:09:13 pm
Just finished Act 3 for the first time. So nice to see a plot that surpasses what people get paid to make. And while I'm anxious for Act 4, I'll be a good little fanboy and wait. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: So...Act 4?
Post by: Nyctaeus on January 06, 2014, 06:06:28 pm
Htling is not a campaign design step. It's a modelling thing, and if you do not have modelers willing and able to actually work on stuff, then it can and will take forever.
Especialy when team wants their assets to be the same or even better quality as recent MediaVPs models, which is almost impossible. They are only a few modelers/texture artists who are able to make stuff that good.

Despite that, as the BWO is fred-ready from many years, I'm sure their missions are not in standard of today. Even if they manage to finish all the models that BWO has, freding might take another monts [years? :P] of waiting.