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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Colonol Dekker on July 17, 2013, 08:47:03 am

Title: So we nuked australia....
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 17, 2013, 08:47:03 am
Take that, west coast America too!

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Post by: The E on July 17, 2013, 08:49:49 am
You messed up the youtube link, you only need the video ID part (LLCF7vPanrY) in this case.
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Post by: Lorric on July 17, 2013, 08:50:21 am
Looks like the nuke took out the camera as well  :)
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Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 17, 2013, 09:44:08 am
Fixxorred.
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Post by: Lorric on July 17, 2013, 10:40:44 am
That number is many, many times greater than I would have expected it to be.
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Post by: Nakura on July 17, 2013, 10:57:25 am
Interesting video, thanks for sharing. Odd that they excluded the Vela incident, probably because they didn't know who to attribute it to Israel or South Africa).
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Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 17, 2013, 11:40:44 am
1956-57. Scary, SCARY.

The distribution of Soviet test detonations terrified me.
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Post by: Mika on July 17, 2013, 12:36:05 pm
It took me a while to figure out what was the nuke which blew up that close to Murmansk, but then I recalled the Soviets tried to use nukes to enhance mining speed. Needless to say, that didn't go so well.

As a result of those tests, there were certain health inspections on Northern Finnish people, and the dose of some plants was carefully monitored back then - I do believe they are still monitoring the worst fall-out areas, but it isn't considered a health concern any more.

Never understood the need to blow up perfectly good paradise islands with nukes, though.

And yes, the total was more than I thought it would be, didn't realize that there have been more than two thousand tests.
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Post by: An4ximandros on July 17, 2013, 12:47:36 pm
Because, sometimes you just want to yell at the top of your lungs: **** the world!
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Post by: NGTM-1R on July 17, 2013, 03:58:49 pm
Never understood the need to blow up perfectly good paradise islands with nukes, though.

Bikini had pretty much no land area worthy of the name, like most atolls. Total surface area is probably under twenty square miles. It's never going to amount to much.

Besides, where else are you going to see a picture of a dreadnaught battleship literally standing on its end but Shot Bravo?
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Post by: Nuke on July 17, 2013, 04:25:50 pm
damn it, i got semen on my keyboard.
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Post by: headdie on July 17, 2013, 04:55:23 pm
damn it, i got semen on my keyboard.

moving swiftly on
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Post by: JCDNWarrior on July 17, 2013, 05:35:54 pm
It's a MAD world indeed. The tests to see if they could burn up the Earth's atmosphere with nukes was another mad scientist idea that somehow got approved, let alone all the other things. Guess that's why they weren't so worried about nuclear fallout/half life then. :P
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Post by: MP-Ryan on July 17, 2013, 05:42:45 pm
Holy bejeezus, I've studied Cold War history quite a bit and I had no idea there had been that many test detonations either.
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Post by: Lorric on July 17, 2013, 05:45:22 pm
I wonder how much money was wasted on building and detonating all those nukes that could have been put to better use.

And that was only up to 1998 I believe.
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Post by: headdie on July 17, 2013, 05:48:51 pm
It's a MAD world indeed. The tests to see if they could burn up the Earth's atmosphere with nukes was another mad scientist idea that somehow got approved, let alone all the other things. Guess that's why they weren't so worried about nuclear fallout/half life then. :P

yer took us awhile to realise that you need more than a broom to brush the radiation from exposed people to protect them, and by then we had taken to nuking insignificant parts of the world so for the most part didnt care anyway, except for the eco-mentalists who seemed to still take offence for some strange reason ;)

Holy bejeezus, I've studied Cold War history quite a bit and I had no idea there had been that many test detonations either.

same here about the numbers, I suppose we only really hear about the well publicised tests that were used as political penile measuring sticks during the cold war

I wonder how much money was wasted on building and detonating all those nukes that could have been put to better use.

And that was only up to 1998 I believe.

yer where is my ticket to Mars colony anyway????
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Post by: NGTM-1R on July 17, 2013, 05:50:20 pm
I wonder how much money was wasted on building and detonating all those nukes that could have been put to better use.

Preventing a World War is probably a good use.
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Post by: Lorric on July 17, 2013, 05:55:42 pm
yer where is my ticket to Mars colony anyway????

Right over here:

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=84321.0

It's gonna cost ya though!  :D

I wonder if there's some really rich person out there you could cut a deal with if you really wanted to go. Someone who has a thing about Mars, but daren't actually go to Mars. They supply the money in return for you going to Mars, and in return you perform some tasks for them. Go where they want you to go, bring back what they want you to bring back, provide information on what they want information on, shoot footage of whatever they want footage shot of, etc.
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Post by: JCDNWarrior on July 17, 2013, 06:06:07 pm
I wonder how much money was wasted on building and detonating all those nukes that could have been put to better use.

Preventing a World War is probably a good use.

On the other hand, if I have to believe the stories of leaking nuclear silos and having no good way of depositing or getting rid of the stuff efficiently, the total cleanup costs and time is going to be quite the trouble, I would wager.
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Post by: Nuke on July 17, 2013, 06:49:21 pm
there is actually very little nuclear material in a nuclear silo, most of it in the primary of the warhead, assuming the silo is armed.
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Post by: NGTM-1R on July 17, 2013, 07:03:54 pm
On the other hand, if I have to believe the stories of leaking nuclear silos and having no good way of depositing or getting rid of the stuff efficiently, the total cleanup costs and time is going to be quite the trouble, I would wager.

Reactors are not warheads.

And at least part of the reactor problem is self-imposed. The stuff is somewhat recycleable, if we were willing to try.
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Post by: Phantom Hoover on July 17, 2013, 08:27:37 pm
Yeah, to my knowledge a nuclear warhead is far more of a chemical hazard than a radiation one.
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Post by: Mongoose on July 17, 2013, 08:41:23 pm
And at least part of the reactor problem is self-imposed. The stuff is somewhat recycleable, if we were willing to try.
Yeah, the lack of widespread breeder reactor research really bites.
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Post by: Phantom Hoover on July 17, 2013, 08:56:07 pm
Wasn't it overlooked because it wasn't that useful for producing weapons-grade material? Or am I thinking of the thorium cycle.
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Post by: Hobbie on July 17, 2013, 09:04:30 pm
If Australia got nuked, how come that streaker at last night's Origin decider didn't melt from the fallout? :P
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Post by: redsniper on July 17, 2013, 09:05:26 pm
Wasn't it overlooked because it wasn't that useful for producing weapons-grade material? Or am I thinking of the thorium cycle.

I think it's both. Or something's getting mixed up here...  Aren't breeder reactors the ones that do produce weapons grade stuff?
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Post by: Nuke on July 17, 2013, 09:47:31 pm
the idea behind breeders is that you can regenerate fuel in the core and so can burn for a lot longer than otherwise possible. but more uranium was found and processing became cheaper and proliferation issues came into play and so it was never really developed. these days the idea is still around but to use up "spent" material that would otherwise need to be stored underground for thousands of years. lftr is capale of doing this, but so are more conventional reactor designs.
Title: Re: So we nuked australia....
Post by: haloboy100 on July 18, 2013, 11:09:11 am
I feel proud that I found the Tsar Bomba on my first view of the video. :D
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Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 19, 2013, 03:28:06 am
I'm sure if they laid a baseline and drums this would sound neat.


Nuke, you were at the fore of my thoughts when I started this..
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Post by: Grizzly on July 19, 2013, 04:30:02 pm
I think someone needs to recreate this one with DEFCON music and visuals and audio and such.
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Post by: haloboy100 on July 19, 2013, 05:44:47 pm
^First thing that came to my mind.