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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Herra Tohtori on September 24, 2013, 07:45:12 am

Title: Bohemian Gravity
Post by: Herra Tohtori on September 24, 2013, 07:45:12 am
Just linking this here out of sheer appreciation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rjbtsX7twc&hd=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rjbtsX7twc&hd=1)


Study physics, expand your consciousness


EDIT: [yt] tag fixed.
Title: Re: Bohemian Gravity
Post by: Kopachris on September 24, 2013, 10:23:09 am

YouTube embed is broken, but the video was awesome.
Title: Re: Bohemian Gravity
Post by: watsisname on September 24, 2013, 11:02:14 am
Lost it at Quantum Loop
Title: Re: Bohemian Gravity
Post by: Luis Dias on September 24, 2013, 11:04:14 am

Y ppl mess up the yt tags? Y? Y???
Title: Re: Bohemian Gravity
Post by: Mongoose on September 24, 2013, 11:27:45 am
Even with a B.S. in physics I understood only about 20% of this, but it was still amazing.
Title: Re: Bohemian Gravity
Post by: Herra Tohtori on September 24, 2013, 12:00:07 pm
Y ppl mess up the yt tags? Y? Y???


Because the way the bbcode tag works is illogical, not to mention cumbersome, and there's no clear reason why it shouldn't work with the entire URL.

Funnily enough I actually tested it in preview and it worked, but in hindsight it must've loaded the video from cache, I guess.

To be honest, simply putting on the entire actual link would be a more logical way for the bbcode to work, because it would go with the established way of adding content on posts. If you put an image on a post, you can't just put the filename of the image... you need the whole URL.

Besides, separating the video tag from the url is actually more effort-consuming operation than just copy-pasting the whole link into the tags because you have to select the identifier alone, then copy that, and paste it on the tags; by contrast, selecting the entire URL is quite a bit faster. Try it out yourself, it's way faster to copy entire URL from address bar rather than select a defined part of it from a mess of characters.

At the very least I would expect it to work both ways - both with the entire URL and with the video identifier code alone.
Title: Re: Bohemian Gravity
Post by: Luis Dias on September 24, 2013, 12:06:29 pm
It's all the other people's fault!

(I get ya, I agree with ya, just messin :))
Title: Re: Bohemian Gravity
Post by: MP-Ryan on September 24, 2013, 12:33:10 pm

Besides, separating the video tag from the url is actually more effort-consuming operation than just copy-pasting the whole link into the tags because you have to select the identifier alone, then copy that, and paste it on the tags; by contrast, selecting the entire URL is quite a bit faster. Try it out yourself, it's way faster to copy entire URL from address bar rather than select a defined part of it from a mess of characters.

At the very least I would expect it to work both ways - both with the entire URL and with the video identifier code alone.

This.  Oh so much, this.  Post a topic in site support or PM an admin, because this tag behaviour really should be changed.
Title: Re: Bohemian Gravity
Post by: Phantom Hoover on September 24, 2013, 12:48:15 pm
Y ppl mess up the yt tags? Y? Y???


Because the way the bbcode tag works is illogical, not to mention cumbersome, and there's no clear reason why it shouldn't work with the entire URL.

Yes there is; it's pretty basic security that YouTube embedding only let you embed content from YouTube itself. Only allowing the user to specify the video's ident guarantees that. You could make it more convenient by allowing URLs if they're valid YouTube ones, but 'logical' and 'convenient' are not the same.
Title: Re: Bohemian Gravity
Post by: Herra Tohtori on September 24, 2013, 02:21:30 pm
what

HLP's local BBCode implementation has nothing to do with youtube. If the system can convert a simple hash given to it into embedded youtube video, surely it can be made to read a youtube url and do just the same things to it (so as to make it actually work).

Obviously if you tried to link something else with youtube tags, it wouldn't work because the link wouldn't link to youtube and wouldn't be in the format that youtube links are.

And even so, EVEN SO, if the tag was made to be compatible with - say - embedded Vimeo links, YouTube still wouldn't have any actual control over what HLP's admins decide to code behind the yt tags. It wouldn't be very sensible to call it youtube tag then, but it could - hypothetically - be made to work. Would be more sensible to call it [video] tag then or something like that, if it could autorecognize content based on url domain...
Title: Re: Bohemian Gravity
Post by: niffiwan on September 24, 2013, 05:12:51 pm
Just on the YT embed of the full URL, it was already discussed starting here:  http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=84919.msg1704032#msg1704032

FWIW I agree the full URL is easier for the users, but it seems to mean more work for the site admins to make it secure.