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Title: Beware of Humans
Post by: jr2 on September 27, 2013, 07:27:43 pm
http://www.likealaugh.org/laugh.php?laugh=20189

Thought it was amusing. True, too, humans are always portrayed as weenies next to the big bad aliens.

(http://cnt.likealaugh.org/120LongDong/20130905-050047-120-318.jpg)
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Lorric on September 27, 2013, 08:26:54 pm
I have thought of this kind of concept too. I do like the idea of humans being big players in the universe and respected/feared by the other aliens.

Ever since I played Mutant League Football on the Sega Genesis. That game is American Football, but with humans, robots, skeletons, trolls and an alien race. Each race has a bunch of different lines they speak in situations like killing an opponent, scoring a touchdown, etc. And ever since one of the humans said "That was so easy! Us humans are the real monsters in this league!" I've had the idea in the back of my head, a sci fi universe with humans at the top or near the top of the tree. So this is very enjoyable to read for me. :)
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on September 27, 2013, 08:42:53 pm
I have thought of this kind of concept too. I do like the idea of humans being big players in the universe and respected/feared by the other aliens.

Ever since I played Mutant League Football on the Sega Genesis. That game is American Football, but with humans, robots, skeletons, trolls and an alien race. Each race has a bunch of different lines they speak in situations like killing an opponent, scoring a touchdown, etc. And ever since one of the humans said "That was so easy! Us humans are the real monsters in this league!" I've had the idea in the back of my head, a sci fi universe with humans at the top or near the top of the tree. So this is very enjoyable to read for me. :)

They're trying to kickstart a new version of that game:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mendheim/mutant-football-league
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Ghostavo on September 27, 2013, 09:12:19 pm
This looks similar to the idea that humans are awesome (http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=humans).
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: redsniper on September 27, 2013, 09:45:55 pm
Yeah, the "Humanity, **** yeah!" trope is kind of fun. Like a lot of things on the internet, I think people tend to go overboard with it and kind of wear it out. I like the idea of humans in a sci-fi setting having a mix of strengths and weaknesses when put up against other species, rather than just being the middle-of-the-road guys.

Or maybe we're the crazy warrior race, idk.
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Nuke on September 27, 2013, 09:52:33 pm
we invented nukes

i dont think i need to say anything else.
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Lorric on September 27, 2013, 10:03:39 pm
Yeah, the "Humanity, **** yeah!" trope is kind of fun. Like a lot of things on the internet, I think people tend to go overboard with it and kind of wear it out. I like the idea of humans in a sci-fi setting having a mix of strengths and weaknesses when put up against other species, rather than just being the middle-of-the-road guys.

Or maybe we're the crazy warrior race, idk.
Yeah, it of course makes sense to begin with the humans in the middle and then start building all the other races around them, but it could be fun to have humans at one of the extremes. Perhaps the largest, physically strongest species.

Sometimes there's a dominant race, imagine it's the humans, stronger, faster, smarter and larger than all the other races with the best ships! :cool: :pimp:

A lot of sentient aliens are like humans, as in bipedal, upright. Imagine a universe where humans are the weird ones, and most of the aliens instead of being bipedal are something else, like going around on all fours (or sixes!), or insects, or aquatic, with a few other types thrown in. Maybe humans are the only mammals, which makes us thoroughly weird to the rest of the universe. Imagine mammals are the most disgusting, phobia-inducing species to the rest of the universe! Which of course makes humans terrifying monsters that are the stuff of nightmares!
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: IronBeer on September 27, 2013, 10:07:40 pm
The Veil of Madness (http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/Mankind)

Always had a soft spot for this story/setting, but I had some trouble digging it up until just now. Good fun. Apparently the savants at /tg have built some manner of game setting around it.
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Lorric on September 27, 2013, 10:16:09 pm
The Veil of Madness (http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/Mankind)

Always had a soft spot for this story/setting, but I had some trouble digging it up until just now. Good fun. Apparently the savants at /tg have built some manner of game setting around it.
I really enjoyed reading that.

I don't know what /tg is.
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Bobboau on September 27, 2013, 10:17:22 pm
We feed our young a liquified portion of our own flesh.
sortakinda.
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Lorric on September 27, 2013, 10:31:12 pm
They're trying to kickstart a new version of that game:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mendheim/mutant-football-league
Thanks for showing me that. Quite interesting. It doesn't look like it's going to make it though...
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: deathfun on September 27, 2013, 11:11:16 pm
If I recall correctly... Mass Effect made humans out to be rather awesome
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Lorric on September 27, 2013, 11:37:55 pm
Humans:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumansAreWarriors

Fear us.

(http://daily-steampunk.com/steampunk-blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/The-humans-are-coming.jpg)
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Killer Whale on September 30, 2013, 07:32:00 pm
Water is the ultimate solvent. It dissolves everything, is highly reactive, corrosive and in a way is the strongest acid and alkaline at the same time. It's not strange that the alien from Alien had acid for blood, it's strange that we didn't!
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Dark Hunter on September 30, 2013, 07:50:57 pm
I actually have read a sci-fi where everyone else was terrified of humanity.

It was called "Mind Pool", and in it all the other alien races of the galaxy were absolute pacifists. Apparently this is the norm, and the fact that humans *gasp* kill other intelligent creatures makes us unique among the known intelligent species and terrifying beyond belief.

Despite this, humanity is in a peaceful alliance with the other species, and on the rare occasion a threat can't be talked down or neutralized and actually needs killing, well, guess who proves to be rather useful?
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: StarSlayer on October 01, 2013, 05:05:12 pm

I'm not deficient!  I'm Superior!

Humans are SUPERIOR!


I think there was an episode in Old Man's War where the aliens where maybe a couple centimeters tops and the platoon was going around stomping them like Godzilla in their tiny cities.
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Lorric on October 01, 2013, 05:17:53 pm
I think there was an episode in Old Man's War where the aliens where maybe a couple centimeters tops and the platoon was going around stomping them like Godzilla in their tiny cities.
Why were they doing that?
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: 0rph3u5 on October 01, 2013, 05:27:12 pm
Chapek 9
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Mongoose on October 01, 2013, 06:18:09 pm
I think there was an anecdote to that same effect somewhere in the Hitchhiker's Guide series.
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: karajorma on October 01, 2013, 09:43:30 pm
Yeah, the alien fleet got eaten by a dog.
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: StarSlayer on October 01, 2013, 11:02:04 pm
I think there was an episode in Old Man's War where the aliens where maybe a couple centimeters tops and the platoon was going around stomping them like Godzilla in their tiny cities.
Why were they doing that?

Because it was more efficient then using firearms.
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Lorric on October 01, 2013, 11:20:34 pm
I think there was an episode in Old Man's War where the aliens where maybe a couple centimeters tops and the platoon was going around stomping them like Godzilla in their tiny cities.
Why were they doing that?

Because it was more efficient then using firearms.
That isn't what I meant. Why are they killing them?
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: SpardaSon21 on October 01, 2013, 11:40:24 pm
Because they were an alien colony on one of the few worlds capable of sustaining human life, and therefore they needed to be killed off so we could move in.  That simple.
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Lorric on October 01, 2013, 11:43:21 pm
Because they were an alien colony on one of the few worlds capable of sustaining human life, and therefore they needed to be killed off so we could move in.  That simple.
There isn't room for us to live alongside such a tiny race? How much space would their whole civilisation take up?
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Dark Hunter on October 02, 2013, 12:00:23 am
How big is "one whole civilization"? Seriously, how big? Objectively?

Humanity covers this entire planet. The only parts of it we don't inhabit are those that it is physically impossible for us to live in, and hey, that isn't stopping people from trying to change that!

Just as we humans were not content to stay in Africa, they would expand beyond the borders set for them. Just because their species was tiny doesn't mean they wouldn't use up the planet's entire surface given the chance and some time.
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Lorric on October 02, 2013, 12:13:19 am
How big is "one whole civilization"? Seriously, how big? Objectively?

Humanity covers this entire planet. The only parts of it we don't inhabit are those that it is physically impossible for us to live in, and hey, that isn't stopping people from trying to change that!

Just as we humans were not content to stay in Africa, they would expand beyond the borders set for them. Just because their species was tiny doesn't mean they wouldn't use up the planet's entire surface given the chance and some time.
Good point. Maybe some enormous aliens might show up here one day and crush us underfoot... :shaking:

It gives new meaning to "curb stomp battle". If it even was a battle, which I guess it wasn't if they're just being crushed like insects. If they were a threat you'd bomb them.

Poor things...
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: IronBeer on October 02, 2013, 12:54:03 am
Good point. Maybe some enormous aliens might show up here one day and crush us underfoot... :shaking:
"You exist because we allow it. And you will end because we demand it."
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: The E on October 02, 2013, 01:31:53 am
Because they were an alien colony on one of the few worlds capable of sustaining human life, and therefore they needed to be killed off so we could move in.  That simple.
There isn't room for us to live alongside such a tiny race? How much space would their whole civilisation take up?

Why don't you go read the book, cos it actually explains those bits (And, for a full picture, read the others in the series too.
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Lorric on October 02, 2013, 04:20:29 pm
Good point. Maybe some enormous aliens might show up here one day and crush us underfoot... :shaking:
"You exist because we allow it. And you will end because we demand it."
Is that a quote from the book, or something else?

EDIT: I googled it.

Here's something similar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMfRd0qxMSE#t=1m39s

Because they were an alien colony on one of the few worlds capable of sustaining human life, and therefore they needed to be killed off so we could move in.  That simple.
There isn't room for us to live alongside such a tiny race? How much space would their whole civilisation take up?

Why don't you go read the book, cos it actually explains those bits (And, for a full picture, read the others in the series too.

I am starting to get intrigued about this book with the fact a few people here have read it.
Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Lorric on October 02, 2013, 09:10:03 pm
Old Man's War has more than one book cover available. Including this one:

(http://aidanmoher.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/old-mans-war-by-john-scalzi.jpeg)

Poor little aliens...

Title: Re: Beware of Humans
Post by: Husker on October 28, 2013, 11:46:05 am
Good point. Maybe some enormous aliens might show up here one day and crush us underfoot... :shaking:
"You exist because we allow it. And you will end because we demand it."
Quoting Sovereign for the win! Man the reapers are cool. And I've never played ME.