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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: An4ximandros on November 01, 2013, 04:15:50 am
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motherboard.vice.com/blog/the-diy-cyborg (http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/the-diy-cyborg)
What the frak? Why that is one hell of a thermometer. It is only dozens of times larger than a classic one and it is implanted under your flesh.
By someone who has no access to anesthetics. :shaking: :shaking: :shaking:
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While this is insanely cool and I admire his tenacity and dedication...
...all of my nope
I will enjoy the day when body modifications like this are smaller, and able to be implanted by an actual doctor with things that make you fall asleep
I'm curious as to what they've got next after this
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I remember watching something a few years ago where a German was was operation on herself to do smaller scale stuff, iirc she was messing with stuff to measure magnetic fields which she was connecting sensors to free nerve endings so she could "feel" the output
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eww eww ewwwww
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He did assure me that "there are pretty amazing things we can do with ice." It sounded convincing at the time.
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Well on it's own it seems stupid, and may well still be, but it seems to be just the first step in a greater plan, so I hope it works out for him.
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I suspect more miniaturization is needed before that kind of thing is properly feasible, at the moment his arm looks like a snake trying to eat a Samsung Galaxy.
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I remember watching something a few years ago where a German was was operation on herself to do smaller scale stuff, iirc she was messing with stuff to measure magnetic fields which she was connecting sensors to free nerve endings so she could "feel" the output
i like her, she was hawt.
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It's interesting that it's amateurs doing this. Big corporations certainly have the tech to make such augmentations, and 10 times smaller to boot. Inductive charging is nothing new (even my old toothbrush uses it), and there exist high-cap batteries much slimmer than this one. It'll be really interesting to see how this technology develops. It's currently used pretty much exclusively by medical equipment, but perhaps this heralds the coming of bionics usable for convenience and entertainment. Perhaps this wonderful future that SF authors promised us is coming afterall. Or a cyberpunk dystopia, but given the amateur, pro-privacy approach to this, I'd lean towards the former.
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I remember watching something a few years ago where a German was was operation on herself to do smaller scale stuff, iirc she was messing with stuff to measure magnetic fields which she was connecting sensors to free nerve endings so she could "feel" the output
There's actually a pretty common and relatively "felt out" implant you can get where they will put small magnets encased in a bio-safe plastic into your fingertips. The magnets will vibrate, move, etc, allowing you to feel EM fields.
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There's actually a pretty common and relatively "felt out" implant you can get where they will put small magnets encased in a bio-safe plastic into your fingertips. The magnets will vibrate, move, etc, allowing you to feel EM fields.
That sounds like a really cool thing to have, just to have it. Unless you ever need an MRI.
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id be concerned with things like flesh eating bacteria. you get some of that in there you could loose your arm or whatever else you decided to implant (feel sorry for anyone getting a diy penis augmentation). i personally wouldnt have it done anywhere but in a real operating room by a real surgeon (and even then its iffy).
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There's actually a pretty common and relatively "felt out" implant you can get where they will put small magnets encased in a bio-safe plastic into your fingertips. The magnets will vibrate, move, etc, allowing you to feel EM fields.
That sounds like a really cool thing to have, just to have it. Unless you ever need an MRI.
i dont think any of the materials used in pcb manufacture are magnetic, though some parts might be (such as iron core inductors, or leads to some older through hole parts and ics). lead free solder shouldn't be magnetic, at least it never sticks on any of the neodymium magnets glued to my desk for keeping screws from getting away. you could build boards by sourcing only non-magnetic parts, and there is probibly already a market for those. even if you eliminate lead and magnetism, you still need to consider that a lot of semiconductors have some pretty nasty elements in them. arsenic in leds for example.
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wtf are you on about, to detect a magnetic field you'll still need a magnetic material involved
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wtf are you on about, to detect a magnetic field you'll still need a magnetic material involved
more referring to electronic design and how to make it mri safe. i suppose you could use one of those tiny chip magnetometers though you might fry it, or rip the chip off the board and have it go through your meat in a rather violent fashion on its way to the nearest superconducting magnet (like if there was a tiny gun implanted in your meat and fired).
it also occured to me that inductive devices should be avoided as well. put that in an mri and it could end up creating a fulminating hunk of copper wire buried in your flesh. you are probibly just better off taking it out first (everything thats a conductor has inductance).
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note that the magnetic-sensing implants aren't electronic at all; they work by physically moving enough for you to feel it
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yea but that doesnt really give you any useful data. and put that near a large magnet in oposition and enjoy the painful sensation of the magnet doing a 180 in your meat. i certaintly dont want magnetic finger tips. you are better off using a bunch of peizoelectric vibrators (that would be one hell of a genital augment), connected to a magnetometer and mcu, that way your finger tips dont stick to things while sensing magnetism. the microscopic bits in the magnetometer should be mostly unaffected.
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The geneticist in me is amused at the quaint notion of implanting non-biological technology into a human body to expand functionality.
The geek in me alternates between "wtf is the point" and "these people are lunatics." The older work of magnet implants to allow for sensing of magnetic fields did intrigue me, though for the life of me I cannot think of a reason you'd do besides "hey, isn't this neat?!"
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The geneticist in me is amused at the quaint notion of implanting non-biological technology into a human body to expand functionality.
The geek in me alternates between "wtf is the point" and "these people are lunatics." The older work of magnet implants to allow for sensing of magnetic fields did intrigue me, though for the life of me I cannot think of a reason you'd do besides "hey, isn't this neat?!"
I think it's one of those things where it's so random that as it stands a practical application is difficult to determine
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also genetics will probably always best applied at early life stages whereas electronic/mechanical systems will probably provide much faster answered to problems like lost limbs. If we get to the point where a complex system such as a leg can be reliably and quickly grown to replace missing or improve upon an existing one then it you would be correct.
not to mention that some applications such as direct interface with electronics to me as we understand things always be best be performed by having a discrete apparatus grafted to the person than the machine due the in fact that biology is many things but producing things to an exact pattern is tricky to say the least.
and, with standardization switching between different capabilities, or indeed upgrading would probably be much easier, faster and cheaper with cybernetics than genetics with more predictable outcomes.
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The geek in me alternates between "wtf is the point" and "these people are lunatics." The older work of magnet implants to allow for sensing of magnetic fields did intrigue me, though for the life of me I cannot think of a reason you'd do besides "hey, isn't this neat?!"
Built in compass?
Or so you can have a built in stud finder? Might actually be nice if you work in construction and are always forgetting yours. :p
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Sudden drop in blood pressure triggers cellular telephone to call for help?
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That would actually be pretty neat.
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The geek in me alternates between "wtf is the point" and "these people are lunatics." The older work of magnet implants to allow for sensing of magnetic fields did intrigue me, though for the life of me I cannot think of a reason you'd do besides "hey, isn't this neat?!"
Built in compass?
Or so you can have a built in stud finder? Might actually be nice if you work in construction and are always forgetting yours. :p
now does that relegate you to some kind of laborer subclass, just because you have it?
as for the compass, that would be useful. you could install a bunch of eletcrode array chips on your brain, could talk to things like that. sensor tech (especially miniaturized sensor chips) is booming right now. might as well do telepathy by radio as well (sorta like the ccd to occipital lobe implants for the blind, just stick it in the speech center instead of the visual cortex, packetize the data and send).
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Or so you can have a built in stud finder?
Oh that could be pretty useful...
Might actually be nice if you work in construction and are always forgetting yours.
...oooh that kind
Yeah, totally was thinking that kind of uh... stud
Sudden drop in blood pressure triggers cellular telephone to call for help?
Not a bad idea. I wonder if it'd be possible to put that into pacemakers for the cases they don't work like they're supposed to
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Oh good, built-in Life Alert. :p
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well in some cases, you can leave out the middlemen. insulin dosers for diabetics, automatic epinephrine for people with allergies who are in shock. i mean im totally for medical implants that do something useful. not because it would be cool to have blinking leds under my skin. maybe an fpu for my brain, idk.
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Yeah, there are definitely some really good practical uses for this sort of technology, but slicing open your skin and shoving in a chip the size of a cigarette pack like some sort of deformed tumor is not one of them.