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Title: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: starbug on November 14, 2013, 01:03:14 pm
Well the BBC have released an minisode prequel to the 50th ann of Doctor who Night of the Doctor and features Paul McGann as the 8th doctor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We finally get to see what happened to the 8th doc on screen and it makes the 8th doctor big finish audios 100% canon due to some of the names he mentions in the ep. Even though its only 6 mins long, it proves that mcgann has still got it and easily leaps and bounds ahead of Eccelston, Tennant and Smith. It is sad in one respect that the tenure of the longest doctor has come to an offical on screen end, 8th doctor 1996 - 2013

Night of the Doctor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: Flipside on November 15, 2013, 01:44:17 am
Really starting to get psyched about this now.

I wouldn't say McGann leaps ahead of the other two, since they all play the Doctor in their own way, but it sure shows he's still got it. And I must admit, I do smirk at people saying 'This means Capaldi is the final Doctor', because considering the way technology works in Who, that's probably one of the easier things to 'wibbly wobbly timey wimey' away...

Having seen that episode though, it does make me regret that the massive portion of McGann's contribution to Who history is only in written or audio format.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: karajorma on November 16, 2013, 09:00:11 am
Seen it, loved it. Can't wait for The Day of the Doctor now.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: CKid on November 20, 2013, 05:16:27 pm
Thought this was pretty cool.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20131119-doctor-who-travels-through-time

Basically gives you some neat facts about the Doctor.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: Wobble73 on November 21, 2013, 05:41:25 am
Thought this was pretty cool.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20131119-doctor-who-travels-through-time

Basically gives you some neat facts about the Doctor.

I wanted to have a look at this but it seems that this page is unavailable in the UK!!?? Because it is commercially run by the BBC and is not funded by the TV license!! ****ERS!!
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: karajorma on November 22, 2013, 12:32:36 am
Google's doodle is pretty cool today. :)
Title: Google Doodle is pretty snazzy
Post by: StarSlayer on November 23, 2013, 11:29:56 am
Google Who? (https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=8OSQUum5JPOlsQT2qYHQAQ&ved=0CBgQ1S4)
Title: Re: Google Doodle is pretty snazzy
Post by: An4ximandros on November 23, 2013, 11:40:19 am
Exterminate! Delete! Extelete!
Title: Re: Google Doodle is pretty snazzy
Post by: Lorric on November 23, 2013, 11:54:51 am
They all look like they've swallowed a TARDIS :lol:
Title: Re: Google Doodle is pretty snazzy
Post by: karajorma on November 23, 2013, 07:30:49 pm
I'm going to join this to the other Dr Who thread. Not cause I object to having two, but cause I want to point out I saw it first. :p

Also this (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/22/doctor-who-50th-anniversary-the-story-behind-the-google-doodle).
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: Beskargam on November 23, 2013, 09:35:10 pm
Is there no discussion of the 50th special?
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: karajorma on November 23, 2013, 09:43:19 pm
You can discuss it here. Just use spoiler tags since there are probably quite a few who haven't seen it yet.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: Mika on November 24, 2013, 06:03:30 am
Regarding the 50th anniversary episode, I liked the actors performances most of the time. But this episode emphasized as well that Moffat really has to let go of the helm, he is pretty good writing single episodes, but then the overarching stories are a mess.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: karajorma on November 24, 2013, 11:57:41 pm
Meh. I enjoyed it immensely. Couldn't give a stuff about the Moffat hater's point of view.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: The E on November 25, 2013, 03:22:44 am
I really liked the episode. It has a few problems in terms of having to serve two narrative needs at the same time (The need to wrap up a few plot threads from past seasons, as well as the need to set up the plot for the next ones), but for the most part, it handles the story and characters in it very well. Of course, it also helps that John Hurt is completely amazing, and that Tennant and Smith play wonderfully off of each other.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: Flipside on November 25, 2013, 09:40:17 am
The 1/2 second flash of Capaldi's eyes suggests he is not going to be the kind of Doctor that dances around his console while he works.

Don't know about 'No Second Chances', more along the lines of 'Consider yourself lucky you got a first one....'.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: Beskargam on November 25, 2013, 10:11:07 am
I was hoping for a little more grim dark cause I love grim dark, but what they did was more true to what/who the doctor is. Indeed, the performance by John Hurt was fantastic.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: Wobble73 on November 25, 2013, 10:22:49 am
Loved it! So much so, I watched the repeat on BBC 2 (or was it BBC 3?) yesterday and I plan to watch it again on BBC iPlayer later in the week!  :D
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: Grizzly on November 25, 2013, 10:41:02 am
Loved it! So much so, I watched the repeat on BBC 2 (or was it BBC 3?) yesterday and I plan to watch it again on BBC iPlayer later in the week!  :D

There was a repeat?
fuuuuuck :(.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: Flipside on November 25, 2013, 12:44:32 pm
You can tell that Doctor Who is more inspired by Comics than Sci-Fi though, which is why it can be so divisive. One of people's pet hates of Marvel, for example, is the fact that they tend to rewrite history and give characters 'one-off' powers or knowledge that never gets used again. When you deal with a show which is about mucking around in the timeline and changing history and alternate Universes etc, that becomes even more tempting.

Spoiler:
I like the fact the Doctor now has a 'mission', to find Gallifrey, and it does sort of fit that Smith should be leaving at Christmas, his character has found a chance at the redemption the Doctor has been looking for over the last few regenerations, so a new Doctor for a new Situation sort of makes sense. Hopefully the Christmas episode will cover the Silence arc more completely, possibly even covering the destruction of the TARDIS, though that may be shrugged off as a 'Big Bang mk2 reset button' event, but I hope not.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: starbug on November 25, 2013, 04:54:18 pm
I loved it, John hurt's doctor was amazing, i have heard people saying he wasnt dark enough, warlike etc but everybody seems to forget or they havent listened to the story, as he him self says he has been at war for many years and in the night of the Doctor, when the 8th doctor regenerates into hurts doc, he is a young hurt doctor. So his dark stuff was probably done early in his life, as in Day of the Doctor he is semi defeated, lost hope and tired of war and a old man.

i like Clara in it to.

I have 2 very minor dislikes and they are only minor

1. Coal hill scholl in Unearthly Child and Rememberance of the Daleks has the school being some distance from totters lane. Day of the doctor has it right around the corner.. So Ian and barbara could have walked instead they were very lazy and drove round the corner.

2. The Daleks dont actaully exterminate anyone!!!!!!!!!!! biggest problem with moffat is that he has said he doesnt like on screen deaths of people, hence why they keep coming back alive or die of screen. As since the Daleks came back in moffats era they have only actually exterminated 2 british marines on screen and thats it. I was expecting to see them exterminate some timelords, after all they were fighting in a war. We didnt even get the Dalek extermination sounds, it was a standard laser sound effect. Poor show on that part.

Overall though i did think it was very good and i cant wait to see capaldis doctor and i hope the rumours of what the newspapers have printed that he is only doing one series is false.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: karajorma on November 25, 2013, 06:38:40 pm
I loved it, John hurt's doctor was amazing, i have heard people saying he wasnt dark enough, warlike etc but everybody seems to forget or they havent listened to the story, as he him self says he has been at war for many years and in the night of the Doctor, when the 8th doctor regenerates into hurts doc, he is a young hurt doctor. So his dark stuff was probably done early in his life, as in Day of the Doctor he is semi defeated, lost hope and tired of war and a old man.

They wanted darker than
Spoiler:
the cold blooded murder of 2 billion children?

I'll agree with you though. Even as a war like individual we shouldn't be seeing him being all grimdark all the time. He's still meant to be a good man who has been forced to do some horrible things. In the end you can't get much more horrible than ending the Time War in the way he does.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: Grizzly on November 26, 2013, 01:01:55 am
Quote
In the end you can't get much more horrible than ending the Time War in the way he does.
You can actually, by letting it continue.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: Nuke on November 26, 2013, 01:16:29 am
i kinda expected to seem more war. but i guess thats an american thing.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: Beskargam on November 26, 2013, 01:17:33 am
I loved it, John hurt's doctor was amazing, i have heard people saying he wasnt dark enough, warlike etc but everybody seems to forget or they havent listened to the story, as he him self says he has been at war for many years and in the night of the Doctor, when the 8th doctor regenerates into hurts doc, he is a young hurt doctor. So his dark stuff was probably done early in his life, as in Day of the Doctor he is semi defeated, lost hope and tired of war and a old man.

They wanted darker than
Spoiler:
the cold blooded murder of 2 billion children?

I'll agree with you though. Even as a war like individual we shouldn't be seeing him being all grimdark all the time. He's still meant to be a good man who has been forced to do some horrible things. In the end you can't get much more horrible than ending the Time War in the way he does.

Spoiler:
But that's the thing. He didn't kill 2 billion. He didn't do what story to this point had said was necessary. He magicked his way out of it at the last minute. That's what I was looking forward to seeing, how does the doctor deal when all his tricks and magic have failed him.  And he was never very grim dark at all. Nor warlike. Hell he only shot the wall with his pew pewy gun. It was almost a dues ex machina, but I think that's Dr. Who in general.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: Wanderer on November 26, 2013, 02:53:50 am
I was expecting to see them exterminate some timelords, after all they were fighting in a war.
I think that was kinda the point of the time war - while the daleks and timelords were fighting it they generally were not dying in it - every one else anywhere and any-when was.
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: starbug on November 27, 2013, 02:01:34 am
Was rewatching the 50th an came across this painting
(http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt300/Dalek-seth/BBCiPlayerDownloads2013-11-2618-55-24-17_zps2737475a.jpg)

 What are the cybermen doing and who painted it and why.

 
Title: Re: Paul Mcgann Returns (to the Google Doodle) as the 8th Doctor!!
Post by: Nuke on November 27, 2013, 07:03:08 am
thats just creepy