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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mr. Vega on July 08, 2002, 06:55:09 pm
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http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/magazine/07FAT.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/magazine/07FAT.html)
(Read the Article before you vote please)
So, is Dr. Atkins a fraud? Or has the N.I.H. been wrong all along?(not a surprise:()
P.S. I'm am Very Bad Long Post Writer™, so I decided to make this short.
Edit-666 yeah!
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Gotta agree with em... stupid 99% fat free stuff, but they add tons of sugar to em... makes you even fatter :D :D :D
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Can't be arsed to register....
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oops, sorry
trying to find an article like it
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I voted other because i think its all of the above
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Yeah, there isn't an easy way out except to not eat.
Which is why I'm a scrawny bastage.
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Personally I blame America. They have a higher fat:bone rate than any other country in the world. Now if they merged with Etheopia it'd get to an acceptable level.
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Yeh, the Ethiopians would overpower the immobile slugs and eat them.
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Obesity works like this.
1) You don't get enough exercise. You eat too much of the wrong food. You don't eat a balanced diet. You binge eat.
2) You have a medical condition or you're just predisposed to building fat.
Fat people who are fat because they do stuff wrong I have little sympathy for. If they do things right, they will loose that fat. They may not be looking like Britany Spears but they will be healthier for it.
The ones who have the real problems with weight...and have to fight that all their lives I have alot more sympathy for. They can work just as hard and not get nearly the results that they should be getting. And I think there are now ways to cope with that....but in either case, action can be taken.
Diet foods aren't really the solution either. I've had to cut any diet styled food anyways because the chemicals and me don't get along :D. And im a bloody toothpick....so diet stuff isn't the way to go :)
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KFC every day is the way of some Americans.
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I agree with Icefire. It's a lack of will. :doubt:
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The best way to lose weight is to join the army! My friend lost over 50kg after 6 months. AND THATS ALOT! All you do is exercise, eat the food they give you (which is quite a lot considering) and sleep. I was :jaw: when he came out. I dodn't even recognize him!
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[color=sky blue]I voted other because the main culprit is the choices we make. Plain and simple. Even in studies done on older people, those that did not become inactive did not 'naturally' increase in propensity for weight gain. The only exception is the aforementioned demographic with an inherent medical condition.[/color] :nod:
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I essentially sit in a chair the whole day (I hate physical activity :D) but I eat very little, so the result is that I end up underweight. :D
I can't quite understand why people worry so much about this though. Who cares how fat or thin you are as long as your brain works well? :p
I voted other because i think its all of the above
Yeah same here; all of the factors probably contribute to some extent.
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[color=sky blue]Obesity is a serious health issue. Most cases of diabetes and heart disease could have been avoided had the individual maintained exercise and good eating habits.[/color] :nod:
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Originally posted by Dark_4ce
The best way to lose weight is to join the army! My friend lost over 50kg after 6 months. AND THATS ALOT! All you do is exercise, eat the food they give you (which is quite a lot considering) and sleep. I was :jaw: when he came out. I dodn't even recognize him!
Mabye it wasnt him!! The Army are stealing people for experiments!
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Quiet you
I think it is lack of excersize, but now that I have read the topic, I think I should have voted for 'other' because it is the choices we make. You can sit in a chair all day and not gain weight if you eat enough callories to equal the amound of callories that you spend sitting there typing meaningless posts and clicking on things.
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Good point.
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[color=sky blue]Obesity is a serious health issue. Most cases of diabetes and heart disease could have been avoided had the individual maintained exercise and good eating habits.[/color] :nod:
Still, while that is quite true, I doubt that this is the main reason that people worry about the issue so much, seeing as everyone talks about "looking better" (whatever that means) by losing weight. :p
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Lack of excercise.... if they (for example) cycle ~10km a day, in 3 day bursts with a day inbetween for rest, I bet they'd be fine :nod:
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Well, for example, I never do any exercise whatsoever (I'm pretty much in one of two chairs the whole day :D) but I am somewhat underweight. :p
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Yeah, it's worth noting that you can be almost any weight and still be unhealthy.
I'm underweight by recommended standards but I exercise so I'm damn near invunerable to illnesses and I usually always feel great. Exercise kicks neck :nod:
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
Yeah, it's worth noting that you can be almost any weight and still be unhealthy.
He's right, a lot of thin people stuff more crap into themself than overweight people.
Originally posted by aldo-14
Lack of excercise.... if they (for example) cycle ~10km a day, in 3 day bursts with a day inbetween for rest, I bet they'd be fine
Thats all very well, but i dont think most overweight people would be able to cycle 10km. They're overweight becuase they dont exersice, they dont exersice because they are overweight.
Visious circle.
Origionally posted by Dark_4ce
The best way to lose weight is to join the army! My friend lost over 50kg after 6 months. AND THATS ALOT! All you do is exercise, eat the food they give you (which is quite a lot considering) and sleep. I was when he came out. I dodn't even recognize him!
but dont you have to pass a medical to get into the army. How could a seriously overweight person get in?
Origionally posted by Alikchi
It's a lack of will.
They lack will because they are depressed. They are depressed because the way society treats them.
In the end i blame modern society. It just makes it hard to fit in time for exercise and eating healthily.
Hopefully goverments and employers will realise this soon.
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He're we go!
http://abcnews.go.com/onair/2020/2020_991206_carbohydrates_feature.html (http://abcnews.go.com/onair/2020/2020_991206_carbohydrates_feature.html)
And I think this quote pretty much sums it up:
Only in America...
do people order double cheeseburgers, double fries, and a diet coke...
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Originally posted by beatspete
Thats all very well, but i dont think most overweight people would be able to cycle 10km. They're overweight becuase they dont exersice, they dont exersice because they are overweight.
Visious circle.
Well, obviously the clinically obese can't, but i managed it... i was about 8 stone when I was 12 IIRC (which is pretty badly overweight), and I'm only just over 11 8 years later... it only takes a little motivation.
Mind you, there is probably too much pressure on people to be 'perfect'... and oftne a so-called perfect body is underwieght & unhealthy.... plus peoples metabolisms affect all that, so there's no real single reason.
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I can't quite understand why people worry so much about this though. Who cares how fat or thin you are as long as your brain works well?
I follow the greek philosophy on that. Weak body, weak mind. Strong body, strong mind. And its not about intelligence, its about using your brain as best you can. If you're not getting enough food or enough of the right food, its obvious your brain isn't going to work as well as it should because its not getting all of the food that it needs.
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Originally posted by IceFire
I follow the greek philosophy on that. Weak body, weak mind. Strong body, strong mind. And its not about intelligence, its about using your brain as best you can. If you're not getting enough food or enough of the right food, its obvious your brain isn't going to work as well as it should because its not getting all of the food that it needs.
I partially agree with that. Yes, food consumption does play a rather significant part in the way the brain works, however, having a healthy body does not always mean that you're intelligent. I know quite a few well trained people out there who really couldn't be able to pick up a dropped penny without falling over. And I know quite a few "huskier" people who are rather brilliant. So yes, keeping a healthy diet will increase brain activity and keep the brain itself healthy, but it doesen't mean that you're smart automatically.