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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Hudzy on July 12, 2002, 11:27:29 am
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We've all heard about this one and seen it in the introduction movie for FreeSpace. But has the ship actually been recreated by anyone? I ask because I could do with it in a pre-Great War campaign I am slowly working on.
Also, are there any other good pre-Great War fighters that people have made?
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Not to my knowledge. Besides, why would you want to use them?
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We've all heard about this one and seen it in the introduction movie for FreeSpace. But has the ship actually been recreated by anyone?
We saw an Apollo in the intro movie. Thats not pre-Great War at all.
The only Terran Vasudan war ship that we know about is the Angel scout fighter that the Valkyrie was based on. The rest is imagination...nothing has really been established in that area.
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Originally posted by Hudzy
I ask because I could do with it in a pre-Great War campaign I am slowly working on.
:rolleyes:
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I thought that was the bomber varient. Not seen in the Great War to my knowledge. Ok, I'll redefine my search. :) Fighters that were available to GTA forces before the coming of the Shivans.
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But there was only one class of cruisers: The Fenris.
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Try playing cardinal spear vega (FS1) for a few ideas. This is one of my favourite campaigns ever:nod:
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Never heard of it....:confused:
Have a link?
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The apollo was meant to be a bomber by [V] changed it into a fighter after the cutscene was made.
If you want a bomber varient you could do it easily with a quick bit of table editing.
I don`t know why but I`m getting the strangest feeling of deja-vu (http://www.hard-light.net/vwbb/showthread.php?threadid=6753)
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Yes! I have been waiting for someone to do one of these for ages :D. I'd have done it myself, but I'm already working on a few things.
Angel Scout fighter is relatively easy to do, as it's just a Valkyrie with one less gunbank and one less set of engines, so you could make it out of the valk with minor model changes, or maybe even minor pof file and skin changes (depends how the second set of engines is designed I guess).
Other than that, there's Grey Wolf 2009's Apollo prototype here (http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/gtdwolf/misc/apollop.zip) , and I believe that the people working on the FSFPS mod have a large transport which was supposedly from that era, or at least, from the Great War itself (I know they have a picture of one anyway, do I assume there's a model). However, I know absolutely nothing about RF modding, so whether it'd ultimately be usable in FS (I do know that there'd be a fair amount of converting involved if it was though). I don't know if they'd let you use it though, but since the mod seems practically dead, they might. Also, if that model Analazon's showing off get's textured, you could possibly get the use of that as well.
Unfortunately, I think that's about it for currently existing mods :(. Keep at it though - I really want to see a campaign like this one :nod:.
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
Angel Scout fighter is relatively easy to do, as it's just a Valkyrie with one less gunbank and one less set of engines, so you could make it out of the valk with minor model changes, or maybe even minor pof file and skin changes (depends how the second set of engines is designed I guess).
Does that mean one less place where the laser comes out from (sorry, that sounds crude, but I'm not up to date on the technical terms :o ) or only having one primary weapon able to load in ship loadout?
Originally posted by Black Wolf
I really want to see a campaign like this one.
I wouldn't keep your hopes up about seeing this one. It's just in the planning stages at the moment. Even if I do finish it, it's my first piece of work, so it'll probably be too bad to release. Lol :D
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The Apollo Prototype looks good. Is there any interface art for it?
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Originally posted by Riven
Try playing cardinal spear vega (FS1) for a few ideas. This is one of my favourite campaigns ever:nod:
Ah yes. :nod: Cardinal Spear was good. I'll check it out.
Originally posted by karajorma
I don`t know why but I`m getting the strangest feeling of deja-vu
Lol. I thought maybe I'd get a wider variety of answers?
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The apollo was meant to be a bomber by [V] changed it into a fighter after the cutscene was made.
As far as I know, someone made that up. The "two seater" varient in the movie was just the high poly version that an artist did up. Its got a few different colors, its beat up, and its poly count is probably in the high thousands.
You can 'explain' it away as being a bomber varient...but as far as I know, there's nobody from V who has said that it was originally a bomber. Everything I've ever heard from Adam or anyone else was that the Apollo was the Apollo. The only explanation of anything was that the Ulysses was the first Terran fighter in the game and because of styling became a T-V joint project (because the art hadn't been nailed down at that point).
So feel free to create the GTB Apollo or whatever...but I've never heard of anything that said that the Apollo was originally a bomber. And I've been around since the beginning of the universe if you will :D
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Actually, its in the Freespace Reference Bible where its defined as the bomber varient of the Apollo.
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If you want something pre-great war, than try my newest ship, the Icarus. I think something like it would be what made first contact with the vasudans...
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was the apollo in the intro a two seater? i didn't ever notice that. probably cause there didn't seem to be any body in there. it look ed like computer systems.
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The Apollo in the intro movie also has GTB written on it's side :p .
As for the Apollo prototype, I have no idea about interface art or what not, but PM Grey Wolf and ask him, he made it, so he'd know. And if you don't actually get this finished, well, maybe I'll do one myself, sometime. Maybe. ;)
Oh yeah, and One less ganbank means one less set of gunpoints, or one less place to put a weapon in the loadot screen. (two less places for the laser to come out on the Valk)
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They also talk of the "Angel scout fighter," a pre-FS Valkyrie; has anyone tried modeling this one?
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No, it doesn't have interface art (yet), but it's being included in my campaign, and it'll have the interface there.
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
No, it doesn't have interface art (yet), but it's being included in my campaign, and it'll have the interface there.
Good. :) I might have to "borrow" that sometime. :nod:
Originally posted by CP5670
They also talk of the "Angel scout fighter," a pre-FS Valkyrie; has anyone tried modeling this one?
Cardinal Spear just used the Valkyrie with a modified table.
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the one in the intro is a 2 seater because he says his co-pilot is dead. Plus if u look on the bottom it has a missile rack.
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Sort of: Tada! (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,1597.0.html)
Venom made an Angel.
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And dead and broken images/links.....
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http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/Forum2/HTML/000738.html
You need a 4 after dynamic (new server since then)
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Okay, I'll post a better link:
http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/private.php?s=&action=newmessage&userid=83&postid=119133
Hehe, |>|-|34/Z the NW stylings.