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Title: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: The E on March 04, 2014, 01:46:02 am
As some of you may know, two weeks ago, some asshole stole my bike. Unfortunately, this has left me in severe financial difficulties, as my current income does not allow me to cover the cost of a replacement, since there are debts that need repaying, rent that has to be covered, food that has to be procured, and transportation that has to be arranged. As a result, I find myself in need of some assistance.

There are a few questions likely to come up, and I'll try to answer them preemptively:
Don't you live in Germany? Don't you have working social security systems?
Yes, we do, and the appropriate paperwork is on its way. Unfortunately, processing those takes time, time I do not have.

What about a used bike? Aren't they cheaper?
Yes, they are, and I am looking at options there. However, I need a bike that can carry me roughly 100km per week, on average, over a period of months. This rules out most used bikes, unfortunately.

If you wish to donate a small amount, you can send money through paypal (adress is fwoltermann at the google mail).

Thanks in advance to anyone willing  to consider this, and extra special thanks to Scotty and ironbeer, for surprising me with their kindness when this whole thing went down.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: swashmebuckle on March 04, 2014, 02:14:22 am
Ah, sorry E.  I've got a special sore spot for bike thieves since my girlfriend's was stolen last month. Luckily it was partly covered by our renters' insurance and she found a good replacement, but it still makes you feel crappy about the world in general for a while :(

Hope things get back on track soon!
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: The E on March 04, 2014, 02:17:20 am
Ah, sorry E.  I've got a special sore spot for bike thieves since my girlfriend's was stolen last month. Luckily it was partly covered by our renters' insurance and she found a good replacement, but it still makes you feel crappy about the world in general for a while :(

Bike thieves are literally the worst.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Scourge of Ages on March 04, 2014, 03:05:49 am
Bike thieves are literally the worst.

I completely agree. Good friend of mine had her's stolen too, recently.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Fury on March 04, 2014, 05:40:21 am
I had my bike stolen last summer as well. Sent you some money.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Jeff Vader on March 04, 2014, 07:18:00 am
If I can find the time to set up PayPal, I'll send some currency.
(I really need to set it up soon. There's stuff on BandCamp I should buy, too.)
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: General Battuta on March 04, 2014, 09:08:35 am
Just give me a chance to finish the move and I'll be in.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: StarSlayer on March 04, 2014, 09:49:17 am
Do you need to replace a motorcycle or a bicycle?
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: The E on March 04, 2014, 09:53:34 am
Bicycle.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Grizzly on March 04, 2014, 12:39:58 pm
I have cycled on a bicycle that was built from spare parts, including a frame from the fifties, for several years (before I outgrew it and passed it on to my kid brother). Troughout the years it has survived being thrown in the ditch (as in, I had to fish it out alongside some other bikes which were there as well) and being kicked the crap out of (probably by the same vandals).  I do have other examples, although not as dramatic. Used bikes aren't as bad as the OP seems to make out in my experience (also, easily repaired).

Then again, I am dutch, a country in which we have more bicycles then actual people (And we have a lot of people), so the quality of second hands here may be a lot higher then in Germany.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Wobble73 on March 04, 2014, 01:35:33 pm
"There are nine million bicycles in Beijing"

Sorry to hear of the loss The E, if I had Paypal I would definitely pass you a few quid, Sorry!
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Kopachris on March 04, 2014, 01:39:53 pm
I have cycled on a bicycle that was built from spare parts, including a frame from the fifties, for several years (before I outgrew it and passed it on to my kid brother). Troughout the years it has survived being thrown in the ditch (as in, I had to fish it out alongside some other bikes which were there as well) and being kicked the crap out of (probably by the same vandals).  I do have other examples, although not as dramatic. Used bikes aren't as bad as the OP seems to make out in my experience (also, easily repaired).

Then again, I am dutch, a country in which we have more bicycles then actual people (And we have a lot of people), so the quality of second hands here may be a lot higher then in Germany.

I agree.  I'm pretty sure I could get 100km/wk out of my 6 year old mountain bike (the last two years of which have been spent sitting outside in the rain and snow).  Just needs to have the chain and gears cleaned and lubricated.  I'm more worried about getting 100km/wk out of my legs than the bike.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: swashmebuckle on March 04, 2014, 01:43:03 pm
If I can find the time to set up PayPal, I'll send some currency.
(I really need to set it up soon. There's stuff on BandCamp I should buy, too.)
You can actually buy on Bandcamp with a normal credit card, they just make it annoyingly difficult and pester you to get on paypal a bunch. Dealt with that last month too.

Anyway, paypal is still quite useful to have for this type of scenario.

/derail
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: SypheDMar on March 04, 2014, 05:19:24 pm
How much do you need?
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Goober5000 on March 04, 2014, 11:37:24 pm
How much do you need?

Yeah, this information would be useful.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: The E on March 05, 2014, 12:28:10 am
A new bike will cost somewhere around 400€, 100 of which I can pay out of hand.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: karajorma on March 05, 2014, 02:33:19 am
Sorry to hear about that The E. I've always been of the opinion that bicycle thieves should be saddled and forced to carry around their victims for a few weeks. :p

"There are nine million bicycles in Beijing"

I don't believe that. Maybe if you count silent assassins (electric scooters) as bicycles too.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: jr2 on March 05, 2014, 05:58:58 am
Tried twice, Paypal reports

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The PayPal site is currently experiencing technical difficulties. We are working to solve this problem as quickly as possible. Please return to the PayPal website later to complete your transaction. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

I'll try again later. 

Sorry to hear about the bike, that sucks.  As an aside, will you be able to get some sort of chain?  That might discourage (certainly not prevent) a thief (easier targets elsewhere).  Of course, you may have had one of those to begin with, but, anyways.  Get a nice long chain so you can secure both tires and the frame to whatever you're chaining it to.  :yes:
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: karajorma on March 05, 2014, 06:01:41 am
And an extra length for beating the **** out of bike thieves. :p
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: The E on March 05, 2014, 06:35:03 am
Sorry to hear about the bike, that sucks.  As an aside, will you be able to get some sort of chain?  That might discourage (certainly not prevent) a thief (easier targets elsewhere).  Of course, you may have had one of those to begin with, but, anyways.  Get a nice long chain so you can secure both tires and the frame to whatever you're chaining it to.  :yes:

A good lock is definitely on the shopping list. But, as I found out, even a good lock is nothing against a person with time, opportunity, and proper tools.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Wobble73 on March 05, 2014, 06:37:00 am
Sorry to hear about that The E. I've always been of the opinion that bicycle thieves should be saddled and forced to carry around their victims for a few weeks. :p

No! They should be forced to ride the bike without a saddle! and made to sit!

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"There are nine million bicycles in Beijing"

I don't believe that. Maybe if you count silent assassins (electric scooters) as bicycles too.

It's a song by Katie Melua (sp?)

The E, I used to used a dog's choker chain and a heavy padlock when locking my bike up!
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: jr2 on March 05, 2014, 06:38:07 am
Mff.  What I find hard to believe is that He had either a pair of bolt cutters or a hacksaw and no one said anything.  Unless he picked the lock.  :doubt:
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Fury on March 05, 2014, 06:50:23 am
A good lock is definitely on the shopping list. But, as I found out, even a good lock is nothing against a person with time, opportunity, and proper tools.
Tell me about it. I had my bike indoors behind locked door and the bike was locked too. Still it was taken without anyone noticing.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: The E on March 05, 2014, 06:53:21 am
Mff.  What I find hard to believe is that He had either a pair of bolt cutters or a hacksaw and no one said anything.  Unless he picked the lock.  :doubt:

What happened was, I was meeting up with a few friends at the local University Campus for a P&P RPG session. I had parked my bike outside one of the buildings, locked it, and then went inside to have some fun. The problem was that this happened during the lecture break period (where no lectures are being held, and as a result, the campus is mostly empty), at a corner of the campus that is mostly empty even at the best of times. I don't know what kind of tools the asshole used (although I would guess a hacksaw, based on what the remains of the lock looked like), but that's largely irrelevant; The point is that whoever did it had enough time and opportunity to do the deed, without anyone near to actually notice it.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Grizzly on March 05, 2014, 08:22:53 am
With the risk of sounding like a prick... That's another reason to get an used bike, they are not worth that amount of time and effort.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: StarSlayer on March 05, 2014, 08:26:23 am
He could always get a new one and then paint it to look like a run down beater.  :p
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Grizzly on March 05, 2014, 08:27:07 am
He could always get a new one and then paint it to look like a run down beater.  :p

That is actually reasonably common in the Netherlands. Bright pink and such.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: The E on March 05, 2014, 08:27:25 am
With the risk of sounding like a prick... That's another reason to get an used bike, they are not worth that amount of time and effort.

I haven't had that much luck with used bikes. As I said, I need a bike that is reliable enough to last more than a couple months of daily use. It's the old thing about the poor man's shoes: Going with used bikes will mean paying less in the short term, but will be more costly in the long run.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: karajorma on March 05, 2014, 08:39:59 am
My dad had a great saying I often quote when people ask me why I'm buying the more expensive of two choices,

"When you buy something expensive, you only cry once." :D
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: jr2 on March 05, 2014, 09:13:59 am
So, can anyone else attempt PayPal donation?  It's still saying problems with the website (not to log in, to donate, it lets you put everything in and then complains when you actually click the "Donate" button).

I'm in the US.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: StarSlayer on March 05, 2014, 09:21:42 am
You should be able to send money and select friends and family.  Since TheE probably isn't registered as a charity not sure if donate would work.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Fury on March 05, 2014, 09:44:42 am
I just used the "Send money" thing, worked fine.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: JCDNWarrior on March 05, 2014, 04:47:47 pm
I feel your pain, E, it's happened countless of times in my family. I've sent a few Euros your way, I hope you'll be able to get everything back in order soon.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: rev_posix on March 06, 2014, 04:59:08 pm
According to another friend of mine in NL, bike 'thefts' are more of a bike 'trading' thing, at least in his particular area.  He once told me that his bike was nicked, but was soon replaced by another bike that was apparently not exactly his.

It all sounds rather incestuous over there, and I have no idea if he was feeding me a line or not.  But the concept is rather amusing.

(Still looking at bikes, I'm kind of hard to fit with a longer torso than legs)

Also sorry to hear about this E, that massively sucks.  This might interest you in the future, and is a local (for me) startup as well.

http://www.biketrak.com/
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: StarSlayer on March 06, 2014, 05:06:10 pm
According to another friend of mine in NL, bike 'thefts' are more of a bike 'trading' thing, at least in his particular area.  He once told me that his bike was nicked, but was soon replaced by another bike that was apparently not exactly his.

Everyone's had a ride!
(http://www.foxcrawl.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Mike-Myers-Austin-Powers-4.jpg)
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Zacam on March 07, 2014, 01:50:42 pm
So, can anyone else attempt PayPal donation?  It's still saying problems with the website (not to log in, to donate, it lets you put everything in and then complains when you actually click the "Donate" button).

I'm in the US.

US Side, their site seems a bit broken. Page contents are raw, only lets you put in the details and then "has an error".

So, I did it from my phone instead.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: The E on March 07, 2014, 01:55:30 pm
Yeah, paypal has been acting screwy since today, for some reason.

At any rate, with that last incredibly generous donation from Zacam, I now have enough funds to buy a new bike. Expect pics soon!

I can't say how impressed and humbled I am by the support you guys have given me. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Wobble73 on March 07, 2014, 02:06:50 pm
 :yes:
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: StarSlayer on March 07, 2014, 02:16:03 pm
 :yes:  Excellent.  I wonder if we can't get a HLP Logo on the side :P
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: T-Man on March 08, 2014, 04:32:21 am
Seems I came late for the party, but glad you got enough from people; hats off to all who donated (Zacam especially)! Sorry to hear it happened though E; let us know if you need anymore. :yes:

Aye Bike theft does seem to be among the big ones now. I probably would've lost mine one night while I was in work had the bike beside it not been unlocked while mine was locked (imagine the crim in my case was going for an easy steal). A neighbour got his stolen from his garage too (just a few days after moving in!) and his was one of those racing bikes that cost £1000s. (he reckons they followed him on the road once to get his house and then took it later. He got it back thankfully).

I have debated claymore mines, but sensed that it may prove controversial :lol:.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Goober5000 on March 08, 2014, 04:18:55 pm
:yes:  Excellent.  I wonder if we can't get a HLP Logo on the side :P

:lol: Yes!  We demand a "Sponsored by HLP" bumper sticker on the frame. :D
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: MP-Ryan on March 09, 2014, 10:18:27 pm
Way late to the party here.  Thieves are the worst; thieves of transportation are scum.

May I suggest that, when you purchase your new bike, you ensure it has a quick-release on the seat pole, and then remove the seat when you lock it outside?  I know a number of people that do this, and the lack of a seat is a remarkable minor deterrent for thieves.

Also, there are bike locks that are made of a hard alloy composite that take quite literally hours to go through with a hack saw.  You might want to check into them.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Gortef on March 10, 2014, 08:27:02 am
:lol: Yes!  We demand a "Sponsored by HLP" bumper sticker on the frame. :D

Also pics if that happens
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: swashmebuckle on March 11, 2014, 02:37:14 pm
Remember how I said my girlfriend's bike was stolen last month? Well, she got it back when the thief (actually a person who borrowed the bike from the presumed thief/black marketeer) brought it in to our local bike shop and the mechanic got a sketchy vibe from the way it had been taped up.

Just goes to show you should always take down your bike's serial number and register it as stolen. Clearly bike thieves aren't exactly on the Professor Moriarty tier of criminal mastermindery.

Interestingly, theft by receipt (the crime that the guy who brought the bike in unknowingly admitted to) actually has a more severe punishment here than the theft itself according to the officer we talked to. So also remember not to borrow things from your sketchy neighbors/family!
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: yuezhi on March 11, 2014, 10:39:31 pm
e: You do not have to resort to buying off the internet. At least you're not in Japan. :P
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2014/03/12/man-gives-up-on-life-and-travels-1000-miles-on-stolen-bikes-incredible-journey-ends-with-his-arrest
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Sometimes when life gets you down, you just want to get away. Run, bike, drive; whatever it takes to get out of the current situation and into a happier state. That’s exactly how one middle-aged man from Chiba Prefecture was feeling when he decided to leave his failing business and begin a nomadic life traveling across Japan. However, his sudden and deliberate flee spanning over an astonishing 1,600 km (nearly 1,000 miles) ended in his arrest five months after it began because of the man’s poor choice in transportation – stolen bikes.

The man, 43-year-old Takahashi Nobugiyo, left his home and failing bar in Kattori, Chiba Prefecture in July of last year after becoming “sick of [his] life.” Over a span of five months, he traveled to Nagano, Niigata, Hiroshima, Kochi, and Miyazaki Prefectures, traveling an estimated distance of at least 1,600 km (1,000 miles) by bike.

Of course, there’s no law against going rogue and deciding to live on the streets, but Mr. Nobugiyo unfortunately stole a few things during his journey. He was discovered sleeping on the streets of Minami-satsuma, Kagoshima Prefecture in December of last year and arrested for allegedly stealing three different bikes in front of pachinko parlors in Niigata, Kochi and Miyazaki. He is also accused of stealing an entire crate of beer valued at 15,000 yen (US$145).

After his arrest, he admitted to living off of stolen food from supermarkets and only had a change of clothes, a small amount of money, and a map of Japan in his possession.

Netizens across Japan were overall supportive of Nobugiyo’s actions, with comments of support such as “With that much will-power, he should be able to do anything” and “Surely, this is a forgivable offense.” Others gave practical alternative methods of the execution of Nobugiyo’s mid-life crisis, suggesting, “He should have done all this with the help of Twitter or Facebook users. Anyone with an old bike would have given it to him or at least treated him to some beer.” Others were completely unhelpful, commenting, “He’s gotta have some muscular calves now” and “Is it okay to ride a bike after drinking beer?”

Mr. Nobugiyo’s quest to find a better life, or at least get away from his current one, was incredible in its longevity and distance. However, we wish he would have refrained from stealing anything. Who knows how long he would have made it if he weren’t thrown in jail.

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/06/30/thief-sells-bikes-on-auction-site-and-then-steals-them/
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Since the early days of the Internet, online shopping has been fraught with deceit. And, despite the hard work of many companies, there’s still a lot of trepidation when bidding in Internet auctions. Inevitably, anyone is bound to wonder: “Will they really send the goods?” “Are the pictures accurate?” “Are these beautiful bicycles actually soon-to-be stolen items?”

While we never support theft, this is one story where you at least have to admire the criminal’s audacity. It seems that the bicycle in the picture above, which was listed on Yahoo! Auction, is stolen property, which isn’t particularly newsworthy, however scummy it may be. What is newsworthy, though, is that the criminal took the photograph several days before actually stealing anything!

The bicycle pictured above rightfully belongs to Hiroshi Tamura, editor-in-chief of two specialty cycling magazines. On June 17, around midnight, his wife spotted someone running away with bicycles from Tamura’s garage and called the police. Officers soon arrived on the scene and confirmed that three bicycles had been stolen, and then left for the day.

Unfortunately for Mr. Tamura, the next morning provided an even greater shock. Checking the garage around seven am, he found that six more bicycles had gone missing! The criminal had returned to the scene of the crime (again), broken in (again), and ran off with even more bicycles! We must say that this guy or gal sure is one bold thief. We also wonder if maybe Mr. Tamura should invest in a better lock for his garage

But our story isn’t over yet! It turns out that the bicycles had been put up for sale on Yahoo! Auction five days before the thefts occurred. Which means that this master criminal broke into Mr. Tamura’s garage to photograph the bicycles once, put them up for sale, and then came back once more to actually steal them once the bidding was finished.

We don’t want to tell anyone how to do their job, but there’s got to be a more efficient way to do this...

All nine of the stolen bicycles are of high quality, worth a combined total of 2,200,000 yen (US$22,181.94). We can only assume that the winning bidders didn’t realize they were buying stolen property. After all, the thief has a nearly 100 percent positive rating on the auction site, including a very positive comment from the winner of one of the stolen bicycles!

Here’s to hoping the cops catch the thief quickly and recover all of Mr. Tamura’s bicycles.
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Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Goober5000 on March 11, 2014, 11:30:07 pm
e: You do not have to resort to buying off the internet. At least you're not in Japan. :P
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2014/03/12/man-gives-up-on-life-and-travels-1000-miles-on-stolen-bikes-incredible-journey-ends-with-his-arrest

:lol:  Because screw society!

That guy probably would have been just fine had he used couchsurfing.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: majorvader111 on March 19, 2014, 10:39:29 pm
i will be willing to help E if you can give me the details and what currency you want it in
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: The E on March 20, 2014, 12:42:55 am
Your willingness to help is appreciated, but it's no longer necessary. If you still want to send money, the details are in the first post ; You can use the currency that is most convenient to you.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: majorvader111 on March 20, 2014, 01:02:04 am
ok then cheers
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: The E on March 22, 2014, 04:55:13 am
It occurs to me that I have been remiss at posting a picture. Let me fix that.

(http://blueplanet.fsmods.net/E/pics/2014-03-22%2010.43.57.jpg)
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: SypheDMar on March 22, 2014, 09:25:14 am
Why isn't it red and black? :p

It's good to know you'll be better off now.
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Grizzly on March 22, 2014, 09:52:30 am
Why isn't it red and black? :p

It makes it more suspectible to thieves ;).

So, to carry on with that: Why isn't it pink?
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Scourge of Ages on March 22, 2014, 10:30:57 am
Gotta admit, for 400E, I was expecting rocket boosters or something  :lol:
But it's a nice bike  :)
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: The E on March 22, 2014, 10:39:59 am
Having a good powder-coated frame, a reliable gearshift, hub dynamo and V-brakes is enough for me. Rocket boosters are entirely too unsafe (and probably not allowed under german traffic rules anyway).
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: rev_posix on March 22, 2014, 06:12:04 pm
Very nice.  What size wheels are on that, 700cc?
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: The E on March 24, 2014, 02:16:46 am
Yeah. Although for some godforsaken reason, we call them 28" wheels around here (Seriously, bike measurements are a hodgepodge of units: Frame height is in centimeters, wheel diameter is in inches, and I would assume that more esoteric measurements are used elsewhere).
Title: Re: An HLPer needs your help (for reals this time)
Post by: Klaustrophobia on March 24, 2014, 02:50:27 am
weight in slugs?