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Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Stealth on July 13, 2002, 11:54:40 am
:eek: :jaw: :eek: :jaw:

you guys go see this movie!  It's the best since (edit) Uhhhh, uhhhh, uhhh, well it's the best! (/edit)

A-W-E-S-O-M-E

and i'm not just saying that Thunder or anyone else who thinks i'm posting this just for the heck of it... that movie deserves special recognition!  You guys should go see it, as soon as possible...  came out yesterday July 12th in the USA, i don't know about UK and where you live, but just keep waiting... and waiting ... cause it'll all be worth it!!!

I'm also looking forward to 'Blue Crush' ;7 ;7 and 'Simone' ;7 ;7

(go download the official trailers for Blue Crush and Simone, and you'll see what i'm talking about :D)
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Bobboau on July 13, 2002, 05:34:23 pm
hey, what ever hapened to that spam smiley? :(
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: an0n on July 13, 2002, 06:34:10 pm
(http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/misc/spam.gif)
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Grey Wolf on July 13, 2002, 07:25:56 pm
Nah, that's not right....
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Bobboau on July 13, 2002, 07:30:08 pm
well I'd like some sort of :spam: smiley

on a seperate note I just got a new head unit in my car, a pioneer, one of the ones with the lil graphics display in them,
does anyone know if there is any way I can make new ones for it
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Stealth on July 13, 2002, 07:48:20 pm
spam or not, maybe if you guys got outside (yes, that's right... OUTSIDE, like, where the sun is shining) and went to see this movie you'd actually enjoy it... iguarantee it!
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: an0n on July 13, 2002, 07:52:30 pm
Your use of Minority Report as a point of coolness reference kinda put me off.
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Stealth on July 13, 2002, 07:53:44 pm
true, i shouldn't have said that, but this movie's totally different, not like Minority report at all, of course
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Dark_4ce on July 14, 2002, 04:02:32 am
Does the film give a solid and entertaining explanation how 1 dragon multiplies into milions in a couple of years, and with the whole technological might of the world, we suddenly find everyone living like something out of The Postman and not using the rather speedy and accurate F-22 to blow those slow flying lizards out of the sky? Other than that, it looks like the average fun summer popcorn film. I'll go and watch it.
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on July 14, 2002, 04:14:42 am
I think I had that spam smilie somewere, evil smilie face on a can of spam right?
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Shrike on July 14, 2002, 04:43:10 am
Yes, you'd think that with human ingenuity we could kill dragons faster than they could reproduce.... Don't you think a burst of 30mm rounds would do Bad Things™ to something as soft and squishy as a dragon?
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: SlipStream on July 14, 2002, 05:44:09 am
That movie was soooooooo 'SWEET'  :)
I am going to go se it again.:jaw: :jaw: :jaw: :D
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Kitsune on July 14, 2002, 05:45:56 am
Yeah, I thought it was pretty stupid.  If it was all happeneing right after WWIII where military resources would be hard to find locally, or that it was a post-apoc flick where it would make sense not to have a lot of hardware to defend ourselves...

Hell, if the navy (british, us, take your pic really, this is global stuff), knew where the male usually hung out specifically they could shoot some cruise missles out and level the place...

And even though it is London, if the fate of the world depended on that one dragon dieing?  It'd be nuked.

Maybe only one of the babynukes they used in the old 'Atomic-Annies' but still...

(Howitzer with a 20 mile range firing nuclear ordinance...)
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Mr Carrot on July 14, 2002, 08:45:13 am
Thank god for americans, if it wasnt for them then the world would never be saved. Its great that you came accross the ocean and saved Britain using British tanks that the world best trained army couldnt use themselves!

Its another condescending pile of ****e hurrah. :no:
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Dark_4ce on July 14, 2002, 09:01:51 am
You should'nt be pointing fingers saing "YOU" cause this board is made up of people from around the world than just the USA. And whats the the deal with people resenting the fact that the states always manages to save the world? So what?! They're making the damn movies, so they can do what they want with em. I mean, when the occasional scifi movie is made in brittain, ofcourse its the brittish who save the world. Look at Dr.Who. But you don't see Americans complaining. People have to realise that the film business in hollywood really doesen't care with what the viewers on the other parts of the planet think about their film. Most of their cash comes in from the states anyway. So american viewers would much prefer to see their own country save the world countless times, instead of Europe saving it. However improbable it is. :D ;)
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Mr Carrot on July 14, 2002, 09:18:47 am
Noo the thing is its not like WW2, where it was the allies, or a film like independence day where the Us would obvioulsy be the major player, but the world is shown as completely and utterly inept in this.
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Post by: Stryke 9 on July 14, 2002, 10:22:08 am
See, that's where things like Mad Max kick arse. There's not really a world left to save, so they don't save it.:D

Though I suppose the Humungus could be considered a hero or summat, getting all the people together around the cause of... raping and killing whoever else is out there in the middle of the desert. Never mind.
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Stealth on July 14, 2002, 11:29:51 am
yeah, but it's supposed to be that no one knew about them till they were already in the later stages of their evolution...
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on July 14, 2002, 02:57:27 pm
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Originally posted by Shrike
Yes, you'd think that with human ingenuity we could kill dragons faster than they could reproduce.... Don't you think a burst of 30mm rounds would do Bad Things™ to something as soft and squishy as a dragon?


uhh, the goverment made a bad decision when it came to "declar war", or maybe they just put dragons on the endangered list till they reproduced over 300 of them :doubt:
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Zeronet on July 14, 2002, 03:19:47 pm
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Originally posted by Dark_4ce
You should'nt be pointing fingers saing "YOU" cause this board is made up of people from around the world than just the USA. And whats the the deal with people resenting the fact that the states always manages to save the world? So what?! They're making the damn movies, so they can do what they want with em. I mean, when the occasional scifi movie is made in brittain, ofcourse its the brittish who save the world. Look at Dr.Who. But you don't see Americans complaining. People have to realise that the film business in hollywood really doesen't care with what the viewers on the other parts of the planet think about their film. Most of their cash comes in from the states anyway. So american viewers would much prefer to see their own country save the world countless times, instead of Europe saving it. However improbable it is. :D ;)


Havent seen the movie so i wont comment on what silly American producers have done, but U571 was real stupid, it was a historical movie, yet they changed it so it was Americans finding the Enigma machine.
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Dark_4ce on July 14, 2002, 03:24:30 pm
Maybe its just a simple "They just did." explanation that they seem to toss around in so many movies these days. Like how did the aliens destroy the world in 9 minutes in Battlefiend Earth? "they just did." Or why did spiderman only get some of the spiders powers and not all of the grislier ones? "cause he just did." Or why was there sound in space in Ep2, "Cause it just did." Oh well. More popcorn fun! :D
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Dark_4ce on July 14, 2002, 03:36:43 pm
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Originally posted by Zeronet


but U571 was real stupid, it was a historical movie, yet they changed it so it was Americans finding the Enigma machine.


THAT I have to agree with. That movie was total UTTER ****! A total rip off of das Boot, and totally fake story, raping and augmenting history to fit their own ideas of a patriotic movie. Meh... And what was even more STUPID was the fact that they even dedicated the film to the crews of the brittish battleships that aquired the true Enigma machine and its codes. I could have understood if they made it as a fictional film to with submarines, but to totally rape the capture of the enigma machine that almost everyone knows about is really rediculous.

Yes, the US film industry along with every other film industry in the world has no right to start augmenting history to make it more convinient for them, becuase many people unfortunately take it to be fact when they watch movies. So it can simply be seen as propaganda. Especially when its a historical movie, many will not question the authenticity of it. Well, thankfully U-571 did get alot of attention from alot of people and never really did very well.

However, if they keep away from history and make fictious tales in which they win all the time, I don't see anything wrong with it. Or if they decide to make historic movies that infact portray the truth, then I don't see anything wrong with that either. Though seeing the slowly waving american flag infront of a blue sky gets a little tedious, I can't complain. The film is after all entertainment, and its not really my place to pull down some elses creative work unless ofcourse its historical rape...
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Stealth on July 14, 2002, 04:36:47 pm
but the dragons are highly intelligent, and strong, and they multiply quickly and breathe fire :)
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: aldo_14 on July 14, 2002, 04:49:11 pm
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Originally posted by Dark_4ce


THAT I have to agree with. That movie was total UTTER ****! A total rip off of das Boot (snip)


Weren't both from the same director, though?  Wolfgang Petersen (?)
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Mr Carrot on July 14, 2002, 05:08:54 pm
Hes a german! now all the brit bashing makes sense ;)

The dedication was added after legal action by the Royal Navy, only the US warships involved in the capture of the 3rd enigma were originally dedicated. Things like that get my goat and they permeate into fiction.
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Dark_4ce on July 15, 2002, 04:14:17 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14


Weren't both from the same director, though?  Wolfgang Petersen (?)


No. Jonathan Mostow wrote and directed U-571. The only pro-american film Wolfgang Petersen ever made to my recolection was Air Force One.
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Stunaep on July 15, 2002, 06:19:16 am
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Originally posted by Dark_4ce

 Like how did the aliens destroy the world in 9 minutes in Battlefiend Earth?
 


They teleported in gas-drones over all major cities which had armor impenetrable even by... i dunno... well, perhaps not tactical nukes, but most missiles anyway. So they killed the major population, and then teleported in the battle tanks.

So the movie sucked, but I just loved the book.
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Dark_4ce on July 15, 2002, 08:19:03 am
Yeah usually the books are better than the movies. And sending in gas drones sounds like a sure win way to wipe out most of the worlds population in a matter of minutes. But why didn't they put THAT in the film? It would have made it OH so much more bearable...
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Stealth on July 15, 2002, 04:10:58 pm
it still was an awesome movie, especially when  near the end there's the 'convoy' of tanks, jeeps, etc. and they're about to enter London, but the street's blocked... and then the male dragon comes, and it blows fire from one to the next, and you see from the side... i'm sure you know what i'm talking about...
regardless, that was by far the coolest part in the movie.!

another good part was near the end when Quinn has the crossbow in his hand, and he's running from the dragon, and he turns around, and then Alex runs with a machine gun to distract the dragon... that whole part where you see the dragon close-up is AWESOME
:D
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: Stealth on July 15, 2002, 04:12:22 pm
lol, when they're "acting out" the Star Wars part near the beginning of the movie :) lol
Title: ot - Reign of Fire
Post by: aldo_14 on July 15, 2002, 04:17:55 pm
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Originally posted by Dark_4ce


No. Jonathan Mostow wrote and directed U-571. The only pro-american film Wolfgang Petersen ever made to my recolection was Air Force One.


heh.  Blatant guess on my part. :)