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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: karajorma on July 17, 2002, 11:33:08 am

Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: karajorma on July 17, 2002, 11:33:08 am: Provisional name GTVA Goliath.

The ship was designed several years after the orion but was only built recently.

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/freespace/images/GTVA-Goliath-Perspective.jpg)

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/freespace/images/GTVA-Goliath-Top.jpg)

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/freespace/images/GTVA-Goliath-Side.jpg)

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/freespace/images/GTVA-Goliath-Front.jpg)

The top is a bit flat but that shouldn`t be such a problem once it's turreted. I'm not 100% happy with the nose though. Any ideas for what to do with that to make it look better will be considered.
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: TheCelestialOne on July 17, 2002, 11:38:05 am: Almost every new cap ship I see with a fighter bay has it on the bottom... Wouldn't it be nice to have 2,3 fighter bays. For a change. Its more effective in battle as well if you are capable of launchin a multitude of fighters.

2 fighter bays : One on each side
3 fighter bays : One on each side + one on the bottom
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: karajorma on July 17, 2002, 11:43:24 am: I'd prefer to keep the current asymetrical design but there's no reason I can`t put another bay on the same side. I`ll look into it. Anything else?
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on July 17, 2002, 12:06:44 pm: It's very good, but looks to me like an over-large fighter or shuttle, rather than a juggernaught.
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: Mad Bomber on July 17, 2002, 01:24:35 pm: Quote
Originally posted by TheCelestialOne
Almost every new cap ship I see with a fighter bay has it on the bottom... Wouldn't it be nice to have 2,3 fighter bays. For a change. Its more effective in battle as well if you are capable of launchin a multitude of fighters.

Or why not six fighterbays, like the Goliath from Nodewars? ;)

Sorry i just had to p1mp :D

Anyway, it looks very good, I like the design.
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: karajorma on July 17, 2002, 02:07:47 pm: So there is another goliath :) Didn`t think that I could be the first to think of using that name for a juggernaut.
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: Mad Bomber on July 17, 2002, 02:14:27 pm: Yeah, but wEvil hasn't gotten around to any of the Obirian ships yet. (grumble grumble) so yours is the first one that's been modeled. :)
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: Zeronet on July 17, 2002, 03:05:34 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Mad Bomber
Yeah, but wEvil hasn't gotten around to any of the Obirian ships yet. (grumble grumble) so yours is the first one that's been modeled. :)

OC ships werent present at Polaris, all the ships that were need doing first.
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: Mad Bomber on July 17, 2002, 03:58:37 pm: ZN, OC ships would be needed for the TSI war tho, before Polaris. I mean, that's where Oberlin and Riggins are introduced.

...ok this has gone off topic, sorry..

(back on topic)

What's the deal with the asymmetrical thing on the ship's left side?
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: karajorma on July 17, 2002, 04:50:29 pm: It's a bit hard to spot in the untextured ship but the left is the fighter bay (orion like with a runway). The right will be a torpedo launcher.
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: Unknown Target on July 17, 2002, 05:55:15 pm: It's a dildo! :D
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: IceFire on July 17, 2002, 06:30:23 pm: Anything can become something to do with sex. Give it up and stop disturbing the rest of us! :D
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: Martinus on July 18, 2002, 02:46:29 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Unkown Target
It's a dildo! :D

Yes and this hammer I'm going to crack you over the skull with also has phallic qualities...
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: karajorma on July 18, 2002, 02:53:12 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Unkown Target
It's a dildo! :D

Hmmm. I`ll have to rethink letting you have it (and the far more phallic GTC Styx) for Mind Games then :p

Edit: This is strange. I don`t like the nose of the ship but no one has commented on it. Maybe it's not as bad as I`m thinking it is :)
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: Liberator on July 18, 2002, 06:34:03 pm: Truth be known, it looks like a modified Kushani Avatar Heavy Cruiser from Homeworld.

It looks pretty good, get rid of the notch on the front and the funky tail-fin and your good to go.

Also if that deck is the same size as the Orion's, that thing is frickin' HUGE!
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: Mad Bomber on July 19, 2002, 08:27:01 am: Well, it IS supposed to be a juggernaught... :D
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: Reaper on July 19, 2002, 09:50:53 am: Name it Thors Charriot :D or Thors hammer.... It kick ass... and add 2 big and flat turrets on the front. It wil look better :D
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: TheCelestialOne on July 19, 2002, 10:01:46 am: Infested... Please...Change your sig...:doubt:
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: karajorma on July 19, 2002, 11:12:08 am: Quote
Originally posted by Infested_Larva
Name it Thors Charriot :D or Thors hammer.... It kick ass... and add 2 big and flat turrets on the front. It wil look better :D

Nah. Don`t think it looks Asgard enough for that :) You might be right about the turrets though.

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Originally posted by Liberator
Truth be known, it looks like a modified Kushani Avatar Heavy Cruiser from Homeworld.

It looks pretty good, get rid of the notch on the front and the funky tail-fin and your good to go.

Also if that deck is the same size as the Orion's, that thing is frickin' HUGE!

I never played homeworld very much so I`m not certain what they look like. The tail fin is actually the main engine block (the ship is a bit more rounded from behind than it actually appears in the picture). And as for it being big, that was the whole point :)

The history of the ship is that this was the first design for a GTVA juggernaut (that's why it has an older style like the orion) It was rejected because everyone thought it would take even longer to build than the competing colossus design. As for why it's been taken off the drawing boards and actually built, you`ll have to wait for my campaign..... :)
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: Reaper on July 19, 2002, 02:49:42 pm: Quote
Originally posted by TheCelestialOne
Infested... Please...Change your sig...:doubt:

What do you want me to remove? I just wanted to have wakka wakka, but darkage doesn't allows me to...
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: Geezer on July 19, 2002, 05:59:14 pm: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
I'd prefer to keep the current asymetrical design but there's no reason I can`t put another bay on the same side. I`ll look into it. Anything else?

If you're going to go asymmetrical, I'd like to see even more asymmetry. But it'll be perfect for Mind Games, even as it is. :).
Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: Sesquipedalian on July 19, 2002, 07:31:22 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Infested_Larva

What do you want me to remove? I just wanted to have wakka wakka, but darkage doesn't allows me to...

The texturing you have on this makes it ugly, impossible to read, and rather annoying:
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Title: It's another juggernaut
Post by: TheCelestialOne on July 20, 2002, 03:16:51 am: Quote
Originally posted by Sesquipedalian

The texturing you have on this makes it ugly, impossible to read, and rather annoying:

:nod:

And if u used bold... Remove it...
Title: Back on topic
Post by: StratComm on July 20, 2002, 08:01:29 pm: I actually like the ship. It looks rather vasudan if you ask me. A few of the angles are too sharp, like around the hangerbay, but nothing too difficult to correct. Maybe add a flat panel (wouldn't have to be large) around the mouth of the fighterbay to soften the angle a little bit.
Title: Re: Back on topic
Post by: TheCelestialOne on July 21, 2002, 04:07:42 am: Quote
Originally posted by StratComm
I actually like the ship. It looks rather vasudan if you ask me. A few of the angles are too sharp, like around the hangerbay, but nothing too difficult to correct. Maybe add a flat panel (wouldn't have to be large) around the mouth of the fighterbay to soften the angle a little bit.

No, Vasudans have strange designs... This is Terran all the way.