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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: MP-Ryan on August 27, 2014, 03:25:23 pm
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https://twitter.com/CanadaNATO/status/504651534198927361/photo/1
"Geography can be tough. Here’s a guide for Russian soldiers who keep getting lost & ‘accidentally’ entering #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/RF3H4IXGSp"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwDh5TICcAAaIiz.jpg)
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I reckon this would be closer to how Russia might interpret the geography of the region:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/ot2oub.jpg)
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There is and old Jewish saying that came to my mind :P :
-Who is Russia's neighbour?
-Whoever Russia chooses.
TBH. Russia's actions on Ukraine are really pissing me. Having the biggest country on the world. Still not enough -.-
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Gotta get all those +1 second delays for Nato warheads to hit Moscow when nucular war happens
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I'm just going to be the one who points out that "This was Russia (Soviet Union, close enough) and they want it back"
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Meh. The way I see it, this whole debacle is a prime example of why it isn't a good idea to expect administrative divisions to work as national ones. Modern Ukraine is what the Soviet government decided should be administered from Kiev. It was never meant to be a national border, and big surprise, it turns it it isn't really working out as one. Something similar also happened with Russia's other former soviet neighbor that tried to get closer ties with the West: Georgia*.
This is pretty much why I have trouble caring about the whole situation. The existing borders were never meant to be borders when they were drawn up. I'm not on Russia's side, but I'm certainly not behind the West's "maintain the status quo at all costs" position either. Saying that all this is only Russian imperialism is like saying Russia is only involved to protect people.
TBH, a proper, internationally-supervised referendum on secession for each region would probably be the way to go, but I don't think either Ukraine or Russia want to take the chance that it won't go their way. And the separatists probably wouldn't either.
* There's also the Baltic states, but they're a rather special case.
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I reckon this would be closer to how Russia might interpret the geography of the region:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/ot2oub.jpg)
you would need a bigger map for that.
you might be able to say the same thing about us. of course we haven't been good at taking things over for quite some time.