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Off-Topic Discussion => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Grizzly on October 27, 2014, 05:49:45 pm
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And that's MOAR SPACE GAMES ON GOG! (http://kotaku.com/x-wing-tie-fighter-are-finally-getting-digital-re-rele-1651470045?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Twitter&utm_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow) - Specifically, Xwing and TIEFighter - which is great news.
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**** **** god dammit. I've already spent more on games than I thought I would this month.
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Yeeeeeeeeesssssssss. I've never played them, and my life is therefore incomplete.
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No, but seriously, Star Wars: TIE Fighter is the second-greatest game of all time. Of all time.
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Maybe someone will do some graphic upgrades like they did with Xwing Alliance
http://www.xwaupgrade.com/
http://www.pcgamer.com/play-x-wing-with-upgraded-graphics-trust-us-you-should/
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I have the X-Wing Collectors Edition CD - but always sucked far too badly to beat it.
Perhaps I'll have to try again with a better stick and several years of actually getting worse at games.
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Gee wiz I hope I still have the manuals kicking round otherwise it'll be difficult getting past the guard post...
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GOG generally has the manual included somewhere.
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not 30 seconds after reading this post, i go to check facebook and this is in the trending section. wow.
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I loved doing that lmao.
Shantipole. Sweet Shantipole shuttles. How I miss thee.
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GOG generally has the manual included somewhere.
What? All games have the manuals in the download list, clear as day, along with other goodies like quick reference sheets, concept art, soundtracks, etcetera.
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Maybe someone will do some graphic upgrades like they did with Xwing Alliance
http://www.xwaupgrade.com/
http://www.pcgamer.com/play-x-wing-with-upgraded-graphics-trust-us-you-should/
OOOOooooooooooooooo
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In which I threw down $26 as soon as I could because trolololo money.
So both of the titles seem to show up as two separate versions in my library...should I be looking at the original '94 releases, or the updated '98 versions?
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should I be looking at the original '94 releases, or the updated '98 versions?
Yes. :P
The original releases are run through DOSBox; if you want to use more than 2 joystick buttons, you'll need to map your joystick buttons to the appropriate keyboard controls. The '98 versions have full-blown control-setting menus, but don't have the dynamic soundtracks of the DOS versions. It's entirely a matter of personal preference which version you should run... hence why they give you both.
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imuse 4eva
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Tie fighter soundtrack ftw.
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Maybe someone will do some graphic upgrades like they did with Xwing Alliance
http://www.xwaupgrade.com/
http://www.pcgamer.com/play-x-wing-with-upgraded-graphics-trust-us-you-should/
Something like this actually exists. There's a TIE Fighter Total Conversion mod for X-Wing Alliance, for which you can also use the upgraded assets from the xwaupgrade site. Though as far as I remember balancing was an issue:
http://www.maxgames.it/xwc/
(scroll down for a download link for the TFTC)
Edit: You'll need a copy of XWA, of course...
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I wonder how many of those clamoring to get those know about Freespace 2 Open? Just a slick looking game with TrackIR support.
Xwing Vs Tiefighter had a Windows updated EXE that worked the last time I checked (XP).
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Never played either game, do they really hold up nowadays? Do they have much of a story at all?
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Can't speak about xwing and tiefighter, but xwing alliance did and I thought it was good.
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Do they have much of a story, he asks.
Son, TIE Fighter has one of the finest stories you'll ever play.
And also Thrawn.
The games also have the graphics of an early 90s space sim, giving the original Wing Commander a run for its money (and a slight edge, honestly, on account of having real 3D models for ships you fight. Complete with .midi music. Go into it expecting a game released five full years before FS2 in terms of graphics and effects and you won't be disappointed.
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all i've got to compare it to from that early is D1. thoughts on how it compares to that?
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Flight model is simpler, maps are actually open space. Cutscenes are all sprites and manipulated sprites. Think old XCOM for quality. Energy management is a thing and it's much more about trade offs than FS. In game graphics are probably pretty similar, with TIE Fighter getting the edge in models.
It's a good game, but you can tell it's from 1994.
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TIE Fighter has the better engine, better writing, better mission design, better soundtrack... TIE Fighter remains, to this day, the best Star Wars game ever made.
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TIE Fighter has the better engine, better writing, better mission design, better soundtrack... TIE Fighter remains, to this day, the best Star Wars game ever made.
It's true.
Bastilla would make it faultless. But she wasn't around at that time so ill allow it.
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better than rogue squadron? :wtf:
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better than rogue squadron? :wtf:
Rogue Squadron is garbage compared to TIE Fighter. If you catch me in the right mood I will gladly declare it to be better than any other space sim ever produced. Even when I'm feeling ungenerous towards it, the only reason I'd rate FS2 higher is because we have the works of Blaise Russel and the Blue Planet duology. It sure as hell beats FS1 or any Wing Commander I've actually played.
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As per the old versions of X-Wing and TIE Fighter, the Mac versions were probably the best, and LA thought so as well. These had all the old, awesome, shaded polygon graphics, and were quite a cut above the DOS versions to be honest. The resolution was also a bit higher. They also had the MIDI sounds... I never had Windows growing up, so I never had a shot at playing the upgraded versions from '98. From the screenshots, the textures in TIE Fighter look passable, but the X-Wing textures were definitely a secondary consideration.
If you're curious about the Mac versions, you should look up SheepShaver. I think there's just something about my hardware or settings that won't let me get my old copy of X-Wing to run properly, but I may just have to give it another go at some point. Or, I could try and load it up on the new computer, but no matter. If you do happen to be interested in Mac emulation, send me a PM. Otherwise, do yourself a favor and buy this from GOG!
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The Mac version Thaeris is describing sounds like it's related to the '95 DOS CD-ROM Collector's Edition, which GOG sadly does not have, despite it being considered the definitive version of TIE Fighter.
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These games nearly gave me arthritis back when I was a tween. If only there were mouse sensitivity settings back then. :lol:
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Check this video out. XWA upgraded and using Freetrack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CpZtIzxMck
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X-Wing running on my pit
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7487/15050637293_fbe84dcf62_c.jpg)
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What steering wheel is that on the left there?
(Also, that setup is beautifull! 0_o - How much money did you sink into that if I may ask?)
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That is an older Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP which I finally found a driver for Windows 7 64 bit that worked (Logitech said it would never work).
I presume your talking about the custom built items.
The buttons were about $1.50 each. The GP-Wiz40 was about $40 and the BU0836X 12-Bit Joystick Board was about $80 (US).
The momentary rotaries were $7 each and the emergency buttons were $7 each
I custom designed the desk/frame and was made out of MFD board and PVC pipe.
The PVC pipe and fittings were dirt cheap. So overall not that much compared to some flight sim frames that run around $500 for just the frame.
For more info see this thread
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=85509.msg1765438#msg1765438
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Xw:a would be glorious on that. Also do you mechwarrior in that?
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I have Hawken but have not tried it on there yet. I have seen videos of XWA with upgraded graphics and it was ok. Personally still think FS2 Open looks so much better and plays so much smoother.
Right now I am using it for
IL-2 1946 with the HSFX 7 upgrades (supports extracted gauges to the 19")
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3930/15474142611_432472b132_c.jpg)
IL-2 Cliffs of Dover with the Team Fusion upgrades (supports extracted gauges to the 19")
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3945/15601936355_2b02dc1ff9_c.jpg)
DCS:Lockon Flaming Cliffs 3 (supports extracted gauges to the 19")
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3954/15409690197_36f05dcb25_c.jpg)
And of coarse Freespace 2 Open
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3934/15416627820_d64f769e2b_c.jpg)
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I swore to myself that if I ever made a flight sim, it would have a registry start. You would get a message if you tried to get in without registering. If you tried that twice in a row you would get shot and the game would auto quit. :D
Tie was the only one I never played... maybe it's time I fixed that...
Nowe gib egs-gwin Alience pliese.
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Bummer. Got everything, installed everything (X-Wing missions too), but my 3D graphics card (Sapphire Dual-X R9 280) isn't recognized/supported when the mission starts.
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Bummer. Got everything, installed everything (X-Wing missions too), but my 3D graphics card (Sapphire Dual-X R9 280) isn't recognized/supported when the mission starts.
On X-Wing? I remember that the Collector's edition I have never recognized a single 3D accelerator card. It always ran fine in Software mode.
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software mode looks like crap. No textures.
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software mode looks like crap. No textures.
Welcome to 1993.
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These are updated links to get XWA running on Windows 7 64 bit as well as upgrading the graphics
You can get XWA running on Windows 7 64 bit with this tutorial.
www.moddb.com/mods/the-x-wing-alliance-upgrade-project/tutorials/x-wing-alliance-installation-on-modern-operat ing-systems
Then after that head over to Darksaber's webpage and get DSUCPv2.1
This will upgrade the graphics as well as as do a full install for no CD's (must have XWA installed per above first)
www.darksaber.xwaupgrade.com/#ds010812
Grab the Reimer's XWAHacker and after you have it upgraded use it to change the resolution
Get the X Wing Conversion pack 3.1 here
www.maxgames.it/xwc/
For the TIE Fighter Total Conversion v1.0 yet but Darksaber's get this here
www.darksaber.xwaupgrade.com/craftpacktftc2.html
XWA Upgraded
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5609/15500134240_843c7fdce4_c.jpg
X Wing ToTal Conversion
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7463/15499081689_92d62c43c5_c.jpg
Tie Fighter Total Conversion
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7553/15686536072_13090dda12_c.jpg
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Regardless of how broke I am, I think I'd have to buy XWA if they put it up on GoG. Seeing as they just put up XW and TF, that may not be too far off. I just really want to know why it's so hard for a decent, new space flight sim to get put together these days...
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Regardless of how broke I am, I think I'd have to buy XWA if they put it up on GoG. Seeing as they just put up XW and TF, that may not be too far off. I just really want to know why it's so hard for a decent, new space flight sim to get put together these days...
You mean aside from Limit Theory, Elite: Dangerous, Star Citizen, and Kerbal Space Program?
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You can pick up a used copy of XWA off Amazon pretty cheap. If you use the DSUCPv2.1 it will copy all the files to the hard drive for a NO CD install. So why wait?
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Thanks for the links, OverDhill!!
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Oh and one more thing. Save a copy of the folder and rename it as you add packs so you can choose which one to play as they overwrite each other.
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A short instructions to get XWA working with TrackIR (mouse emulation)
http://www.xwaupgrade.com/phpBB3008/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10523
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An update to Tie Fighter for improved sound
http://www.savingcontent.com/2014/08/09/guide-play-x-wing-tie-fighter-series-on-windows-7-windows-8-windows-8-1-with-an-xbox-xb1-playstation-ps4-controller-flight-stick/7/
http://www.savingcontent.com/xwing/TieFighterReconstructedGOGEdition.zip
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I had thought about picking these up, but then I found my XWA CDs and am thinking I need to install them. I picked it up at a flea market for a dollar several years ago but never bothered to do the legwork to install it.
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I used to play these with joysticks back in the day. But I don't have one anymore. I'm considering using my ps3 controller..... on a mac!!!
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I had grabbed my Tie Fighter Collector's CD-ROM (DOS) that everyone seems to want GOG to get and tried it with DOSBOX but was not able to get it to recognize my joystick in game to calibrate it. I finally found the Tiecdjoy patch and it now works.
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The 1994/1995 Collector's CD-ROM versions of X-Wing and Tie Fighter have been added on GOG. Everyone who bought either game from them now has it in their library. The games are also discounted for a limited time in case anyone here doesn't have them yet.
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The 1994/1995 Collector's CD-ROM versions of X-Wing and Tie Fighter have been added on GOG.
**** yes!
Note that you may need to visit https://www.gog.com/account/refresh in order to get them to show up in your library.
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Dear lord...so which of these 3 versions should I actually go with? :lol:
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Dear lord...so which of these 3 versions should I actually go with? :lol:
The DOS CD-ROM editions, of course; the ones just mentioned.