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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sandwich on November 18, 2014, 07:58:10 pm
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...and all come out in body bags.
GRAPHIC IMAGE WARNING: http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2014/11/F141118KBG02-635x357.jpg
http://www.timesofisrael.com/jerusalem-terror-attack-leaves-four-dead/
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****in' terrorists man...
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Ehhhh... was that really necessary Sandwich?
I knew what this was going to be since the Brit meant it got picked up by the news over here, but I still didn't expect that picture. Of course, anyone who saw the Jokes thread from you and doesn't know might be in for a nasty surprise.
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Come on Sandwich, Lorric is right, that wasn't necessary. :doubt:
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how else are we to learn that the palestinians are vicious, rabid animals, black wolf? sandwich cares only for our education in this matter
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how else are we to learn that the palestinians are vicious, rabid animals, black wolf? sandwich cares only for our education in this matter
Oh, I'm sorry... did I miss something? Was it the Jews who entered a mosque in the predominantly Arab nation where they lived and slaughtered people praying there? No, couldn't be - Jews aren't really allowed to live in Arab nations much these days. :rolleyes:
I do apologize for the picture however - you guys are right that it should have been behind a warning, or not all.
Did anyone catch the SNAFUs by CNN in their reporting of this event, by the way? This first headline below seemed to me like it probably just a simple mistake, but the other just seems to exemplify the twisted media lens used to portray Israel:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/1OBYXp64znSDmkMmi3jc2EopcrZ3YovdFFGbJltzaciGXD9HB-N9kQ03QP1Xz7ebtXXO_OoPJpQ-D09g9ctLc1P7mTKafbiYu8z1kxCVZsNSbDCzULPy82bhLg9bNfiWZg)
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All I saw this morning was several killed in attack on a Synagogue (later in article about their nationalities. But they still didn't seem to care), two Palestinian men who were wielding guns, knives, axes... killed by police. Then the news showed Palestinians dancing and celebrating in the streets.
FUBAR, seriously FUBAR.
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Did anyone catch the SNAFUs by CNN in their reporting of this event, by the way? This first headline below seemed to me like it probably just a simple mistake, but the other just seems to exemplify the twisted media lens used to portray Israel:
Do you have any proof to back up that statement? Or are you simply cherry-picking two pictures out of a rolling stream of headlines and using it to justify a narrative that doesn't actually exist?
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A video of the whole segment would be great to unravel the answer to Karajorma's very pertinent question.
As it is, sounds like a cherry picked picture shared through the internet so to annoy and anger people against the "obvious" anti-semitism in liberal america.
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http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/CNN-apologizes-for-mistakes-in-Jerusalem-terror-attack-coverage-382178
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ej8VsYvlKw
It seems like a simple mistake. The interviewee repeatedly says synagog and the news anchors confirm it.
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The funny thing is that the mistake "2 Palestinians, 3 Americans, 1 Brit, Killed in terror attack on synagogue" would actually garner more, not less sympathy for Israel. But the politicians want to paint it as the "Evil Western Media" distorting the truth to make them look bad. :rolleyes:
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...the mistake "2 Palestinians, 3 Americans, 1 Brit, Killed in terror attack on synagogue"...
Err, just to clarify, the whole "3 Americans, 2 Palestinians, and 1 Brit" portion is coined by me, referencing the popular pattern of jokes. The SNAFUs were what is shown in the image I posted. Wasn't sure from your post if you got confused by that or not.
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Wasn't confused. I simply meant that news agencies mistakenly claiming 7 victims (everyone seems to forget the cop) rather than 5 victims and two dead scumbags isn't going to hurt Israel in any way, shape, size, or form.
Not unless they have some sort of ulterior motive.
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Is there any word on who's behind this? Such scumbags seldom work alone, and there's a plenty of suspects in the region. I wouldn't put Hamas above this sort of thing, but at the same time (IIRC), it's been a while since they used this method of attack.
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Wasn't confused. I simply meant that news agencies mistakenly claiming 7 victims (everyone seems to forget the cop) rather than 5 victims and two dead scumbags isn't going to hurt Israel in any way, shape, size, or form.
Not unless they have some sort of ulterior motive.
Ah, I see what you were referring to. My beef was mainly with the second headline in the image: "Police shot, killed two Palestinians". It's true and accurate, but also extremely misleading as it omits the core of the story. So while I can imagine the confusion between mosque and synagogue as being due to an honest mistake, it's hard to envision the omission of the core part of the story in the second headline to be a similarly honest mistake.
EDIT: BTW, when I originally posted this, the (Druze) cop hadn't succumbed to his wounds yet.
Is there any word on who's behind this? Such scumbags seldom work alone, and there's a plenty of suspects in the region. I wouldn't put Hamas above this sort of thing, but at the same time (IIRC), it's been a while since they used this method of attack.
Have y'all been hearing of all the unrest in Jerusalem lately? Riots of course, but also many "unusual" terrorist attacks: 2 (or was it 3?) instances of Palestinians ramming cars through crowds of people waiting at light rail stops, a Palestinian using his backhoe tractor thingy's backhoe arm to overturn a tour bus, stabbings, etc.
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So while I can imagine the confusion between mosque and synagogue as being due to an honest mistake, it's hard to envision the omission of the core part of the story in the second headline to be a similarly honest mistake.
Given that "Police shot, killed 2 Palestinians" is a ****ing stupid headline on its own (Which police? Which country? What were they doing to get shot?) it seems pretty likely that the headline is part of a loop that goes something like
4 Dead in Attack on Jerusalem Synagogue.
Policeman injured in gunfight.
Police shot, killed 2 Palestinians.
If you watch the story for more than a minute it's quite clear what's going on. But if you take the picture out of context it can easily be turned into some sinister conspiracy theory.
Even if it's not part of a loop, then I'd ascribe it to the CNN headline writer being a ****ing idiot given how badly we've already seen them **** up, together with how they've managed to write a headline that says nothing useful, before I'd start making claims of a conspiracy.
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If you can find the clip, I'd love to see it.
I'm at work right now, and just heard a flock of police vehicles rush up Jaffa street. Looked online to see if there's anything in the news, and found this: http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Man-stabbed-on-Jerusalems-Yafo-Street-382420
I work on friggin' Yafo Street.
EDIT: In an article I was reading on just-eased gun restrictions (http://www.timesofisrael.com/public-security-minister-eases-rules-for-gun-permits/) here, I came across a short summary of the main terrorist attacks that have taken place here over the past few months:
On Tuesday, two Palestinian cousins armed with meat cleavers and a pistol killed four worshipers and a policeman at a Jerusalem synagogue. Security forces shot the terrorists dead.
Earlier this month two Israelis were killed when an Arab driver, 48-year-old Ibrahim al-Akary, plowed into pedestrians at a light rail station along the seam line between East and West Jerusalem. A Border Police officer, Jedan Assad, was killed in the attack. Seventeen-year-old yeshiva student Shalom Ba’adani was critically injured and later succumbed to his wounds. Over a dozen others were also injured in the attack.
In a separate incident on November 10, 26-year-old Dalia Lemkus was run over and then stabbed to death by a Palestinian assailant while waiting at a bus stop in the West Bank. An IDF soldier was stabbed to death by a Palestinian suspect in a separate incident the same day in Tel Aviv.
On October 29 East Jerusalem resident Mu’taz Hijazi attempted to assassinate Temple Mount activist Rabbi Yehudah Glick in a shooting attack in Jerusalem. Glick, who campaigns for Jewish prayer rights on the Temple Mount, was critically injured by close-range gunshots, but is gradually recovering.
On October 22, Abdelrahman Al-Shaludi drove his car into a Jerusalem Light Rail station, killing three-month-old Israeli-American Chaya Zissel Braun and Karen Yemima Muscara, 22, of Ecuador. Seven other people were also injured. Shaludi was shot by police as he tried to flee the scene and later died of his wounds.
His family’s home was demolished Wednesday morning, in a punitive measure okayed by Israel’s leadership.
On August 4, a Palestinian man rammed a tractor into a bus, killing a pedestrian, Avraham Walz, 29.
EDIT 2: Oh hey, also, just in time for the holidays - Christmas Munitions! http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/1.627622
Also... ISIS flag waving on campus doesn't get any attention... what does?
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If you can find the clip, I'd love to see it.
This is CNN standard MO.
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Also... ISIS flag waving on campus doesn't get any attention... what does?
wow, would like to see the reaction to someone waving a confederate flag.
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It sounds like another one of those "college kids are stupid" trolls that FOX is so fond of. Creative editing and a large enough sample size to have ANY shot where people don't react are enough to convince a lot of people that an entire college campus is sympathetic to a dangerous cause, or just outright stupid.
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Have y'all been hearing of all the unrest in Jerusalem lately? Riots of course, but also many "unusual" terrorist attacks: 2 (or was it 3?) instances of Palestinians ramming cars through crowds of people waiting at light rail stops, a Palestinian using his backhoe tractor thingy's backhoe arm to overturn a tour bus, stabbings, etc.
Heard about that, this is the most peculiar thing. It looks like common people just going out and attacking... other common people. This kind of unrest is usually caused by something in particular (say, an oppressive law), but I don't know of any new law or anything that could possibly provoke something like that. Did any of those attackers survive to be questioned?
On one hand, Israel has a record of doing things that gave Palestinians good reasons to be angry (in spite of what they say, there's plenty of ethnic discrimination). On the other hand, it seemed to be improving in that area lately, and I'm not sure what exactly could have prompted those people to just go and attack. There certainly doesn't seem to be any larger organization involved, or we'd be seeing bombings by now.
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The conditions that created the 2012 war and the 2014 war have not changed significantly. There will be another war in 2016 no doubt.
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It does seem likely. If anything the situation has gotten worse and I'd be surprised if it waits for 2016 to roll round before it kicks off
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Well, there will be a war in 2016, that's for sure. I fully expect it to actually start in 2015, though. I don't think it'd really change much, either. Palestinians' situation won't get any better, Israelis won't be liked any more than they're now, a bunch of people will be dead. Lather, rinse, repeat. Same as in both previous wars.
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So I have no idea what the ISIS flag looks like. I've never bothered to look it up, nor have I seen it appear to me in some fashion with a definition below it explaining what it is. Am I just as bad as those college students?
I suppose I should go look it up now. To the Googlemobile! Hope the NSA doesn't pull me over!
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Am I just as bad as those college students?
Depends, do you recognise the Israeli flag? If so: yes. You may wish to take preventative action against literally becoming Palestinian.
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I watched the video. Well, the first minute. People aren't reacting because it's blatantly obviously not serious. There's no conviction in his words. It's not believable. Same goes for his body language.
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Not only that, but most of those kids were presumably on their way to class/whatever and just didn't give a **** about the nutjob yelling something or other. We had a Crazy Jesus Dude (easel-mounted whiteboard and all) who was always preaching on our campus, and I barely even noticed him anymore after my first few months there.
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Not only that, but most of those kids were presumably on their way to class/whatever and just didn't give a **** about the nutjob yelling something or other. We had a Crazy Jesus Dude (easel-mounted whiteboard and all) who was always preaching on our campus, and I barely even noticed him anymore after my first few months there.
My alma mater has one guy who consistently drops by as well. He's the full-on "you deserve hell" brand of preacher. People only watch him to see what sort of crazy he'll pull out of his bag 'o tricks next, and I went to a pretty conservative school in a conservative state. Most people on campus actually have stuff to do, and make an effort to tune out the people trying to get their attention.
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Yup. Generally, people walk by advertisers and such all the time. We don't have preachers on the campus, so if one showed up he'll probably gather some attention, but most people would likely soon depart to go about their business and forget about him. An IS supporter would likely have police called on him eventually if anyone with enough time for that came by, but most people wouldn't give him much heed, either. For most, a nutjob preaching on the street is someone else's problem and not worth their while.