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Title: Mapping the Darkness...
Post by: Flipside on April 13, 2015, 07:20:02 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-32284995

Work begins on a vast Dark-Matter mapping project, showing galaxies clustering where the matter is at its densest, though as to whether that is cause or effect of galaxy clustering I do not know, possibly both.

I like Dark Matter because it is a prime example of how something can go from 'theoretical idea that probably isn't true' to 'established scientific fact', since it has done so in my lifetime, kind of like Black Holes, though they were more a case of 'probably true, but we haven't found one yet'.
Title: Re: Mapping the Darkness...
Post by: watsisname on April 14, 2015, 01:05:28 am
I would even say that black holes started out as "mathematically valid, but so bizarre that there's no way they could exist in nature".  Now we know that they are common. :)  It's a great example of the theory getting something right before we had good hard evidence for it.

In this sense dark matter is kind of the opposite.  We didn't have a theory predicting it.  But over the last several decades we've been steadily accumulating observational evidence indicating that this stuff is out there.  This evidence is now so hard to ignore that it has become a key part of our current theory of cosmology: the concordance model, or ΛCDM, which literally stands for "Dark Energy + Cold Dark Matter".

It might instead be that our understanding of gravity is wrong, but I think that ship has been nearly sunk.  If evidence of dark matter is instead evidence of a flaw in our understanding of gravity, then that flaw is not at all trivial.  Modified gravity can explain some of the observations, but not all of them, and not all of them by using the same correction.

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Work begins on a vast Dark-Matter mapping project, showing galaxies clustering where the matter is at its densest, though as to whether that is cause or effect of galaxy clustering I do not know, possibly both.

To some extent it is both, but much more the former than the latter.

Galactic clusters are not evenly distributed, but instead lie along these great filaments and sheets, or the "cosmic web (https://www.google.com/search?q=cosmic+web&biw=1920&bih=1036&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=26gsVYzZF9PsoASLhICQCw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ#imgrc=_)".  Simulations (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J6fa8t9zxQ) of the evolution of the universe show that it is mainly the gravitational collapse of the dark matter that produces this cosmic web, which then "seeds" the formation of galaxies as gas is also drawn in to the high density regions.  Intuitively, you can think of the dark matter playing the dominant role in structure formation just because there's a lot more of it -- it outweighs "regular" matter by about a factor of five.  But the growth also works both ways, as there is still more gas and dark matter falling into the galactic clusters from afar.  The high density regions of the cosmic web are still growing as their gravitational field pulls in more material.
Title: Re: Mapping the Darkness...
Post by: Colonol Dekker on April 14, 2015, 01:12:04 am
If only we could see what scientific progress is made / lost due to idiocracy over the next century.
Title: Re: Mapping the Darkness...
Post by: Flipside on April 14, 2015, 06:13:59 pm
On another note, you know we are getting comfortable with close-orbit work when the ISS gets a Coffee Machine ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-32311928
Title: Re: Mapping the Darkness...
Post by: Black Wolf on April 14, 2015, 07:44:07 pm
Excellent! Once the mapping project is complete, and we know the exact location of the darkness, we can commence attacking! :D
Title: Re: Mapping the Darkness...
Post by: IronBeer on April 14, 2015, 08:27:09 pm
Tell Uncle Sam that the Darkness has oil....  :lol:
Title: Re: Mapping the Darkness...
Post by: X3N0-Life-Form on April 14, 2015, 11:58:43 pm
Did somebody mention Darkness?
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Title: Re: Mapping the Darkness...
Post by: S-99 on April 16, 2015, 08:29:11 pm
Did satan's father finally pop out of a mirror?
Title: Re: Mapping the Darkness...
Post by: Colonol Dekker on April 17, 2015, 02:38:54 am
Don't you mention that film. Don't you dare do that :shaking:
Title: Re: Mapping the Darkness...
Post by: Mr. Vega on April 17, 2015, 02:50:06 pm
Don't you mention that film. Don't you dare do that :shaking:
The soundtrack Goldsmith composed for it is incredible though.
Title: Re: Mapping the Darkness...
Post by: X3N0-Life-Form on April 18, 2015, 04:50:30 am
I wouldn't know, since I haven't seen it in about 15 years :P.
Title: Re: Mapping the Darkness...
Post by: S-99 on April 18, 2015, 09:05:19 pm
The prince of darkness was awesome for what it was.
Title: Re: Mapping the Darkness...
Post by: Colonol Dekker on April 23, 2015, 04:14:08 am
Faaaaaaah-theeeeeeeerrrrrr.
Title: Re: Mapping the Darkness...
Post by: qwadtep on April 30, 2015, 12:42:44 am
No, Laporte, don't look! Cover your eyes!